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Title: One bound book
Post by: Deleted User on June 21, 2012, 06:05:11 pm
Are we allowed to take into the exam one of those notebooks with the spiral binder? It has perforated pages.
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Special At Specialist on June 21, 2012, 06:25:46 pm
No. You need to add a spine to the book if you want to use it.

You can read more about it here:
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/correspondence/memorandums/2007/28.html
http://mathsmethods.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/maths-methods-bound-referencesallowed-or-not/
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Starlight on June 21, 2012, 10:27:44 pm
I wrote mine on loose leaf and got it bound at officeworks.
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: pi on June 21, 2012, 10:41:26 pm
I also wrote my own on loose-leaf :D

Then I stapled and taped around that edge until it was bound :D /forevercheap
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: paulsterio on June 21, 2012, 11:07:37 pm
You can use a spiral book, at the end of the year, just unwind the spiral, use a hot glue gun to glue down the spine and duct tape over it :)
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: abeybaby on June 21, 2012, 11:34:28 pm
I also wrote my own on loose-leaf :D

Then I stapled and taped around that edge until it was bound :D /forevercheap

I did this too, then taped my textbook to it.
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Deleted User on June 22, 2012, 05:07:56 pm
No. You need to add a spine to the book if you want to use it.

You can read more about it here:
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/correspondence/memorandums/2007/28.html
http://mathsmethods.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/maths-methods-bound-referencesallowed-or-not/

How would I go about doing this?
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: SenriAkane on June 22, 2012, 06:24:57 pm
I also wrote my own on loose-leaf :D

Then I stapled and taped around that edge until it was bound :D /forevercheap

I did this too, then taped my textbook to it.
I didn't tape my textbook , I Just stapled and glued two workbooks together and a covered the binding paper as well so it looks like only 1 book.  :P 
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: m.arcus on June 23, 2012, 05:14:12 pm
Mine has a spiral binder (looks like a spring) but does not have any perforated pages. Is that allowed?
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: paulsterio on June 23, 2012, 05:34:19 pm
Mine has a spiral binder (looks like a spring) but does not have any perforated pages. Is that allowed?

At the end of the year, take out the spiral, run a hot glue gun or PVA down the spine and go over it with duct tape
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Deleted User on June 23, 2012, 06:47:02 pm
Mine has a spiral binder (looks like a spring) but does not have any perforated pages. Is that allowed?

At the end of the year, take out the spiral, run a hot glue gun or PVA down the spine and go over it with duct tape

I don't understand why spirals are not allowed.
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: pi on June 23, 2012, 06:48:18 pm
It's VCAA haha
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Monatron on June 23, 2012, 07:53:05 pm
what about just using a A4 book that you buy from the supermarket ? can you do that
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: pi on June 23, 2012, 07:54:27 pm
what about just using a A4 book that you buy from the supermarket ? can you do that

I did that for spesh :) Totally fine :)
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Monatron on June 23, 2012, 07:56:05 pm
would you recommend it ?
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Deleted User on June 23, 2012, 08:00:00 pm
what about just using a A4 book that you buy from the supermarket ? can you do that

I did that for spesh :) Totally fine :)

What if my book has perforated pages? What can I do to make it legit?
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: WhoTookMyUsername on June 23, 2012, 08:21:32 pm
photocopy is one solution, or just tear them all then bind using the glue / tape method
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Monatron on June 23, 2012, 08:26:49 pm
so you can use a A4 page excercise book?
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: pi on June 23, 2012, 08:28:39 pm
so you can use a A4 page excercise book?

Yep, I did :) As long as nothing is sticking out of it, it's fine :)
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Deleted User on June 23, 2012, 08:48:33 pm
photocopy is one solution, or just tear them all then bind using the glue / tape method

Do i really have to do this? it would take forever. if my book has perforated pages, would they really take my book away?
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: pi on June 24, 2012, 11:14:52 am
photocopy is one solution, or just tear them all then bind using the glue / tape method

Do i really have to do this? it would take forever. if my book has perforated pages, would they really take my book away?

They might, I just wouldn't risk it.
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Deleted User on June 30, 2012, 07:27:27 pm
photocopy is one solution, or just tear them all then bind using the glue / tape method

Do i really have to do this? it would take forever. if my book has perforated pages, would they really take my book away?

They might, I just wouldn't risk it.

How do I solve this "perforated pages"
 problem then?
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Starlight on June 30, 2012, 07:31:52 pm
photocopy is one solution, or just tear them all then bind using the glue / tape method

Do i really have to do this? it would take forever. if my book has perforated pages, would they really take my book away?

They might, I just wouldn't risk it.

How do I solve this "perforated pages"
 problem then?

You can use a spiral book, at the end of the year, just unwind the spiral, use a hot glue gun to glue down the spine and duct tape over it :)

Or if you have room just hole punch it and get it bound elsewhere
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Deleted User on July 03, 2012, 09:31:28 am
So just to reiterate, if I bring in a binder book with perforated pages and all the pages are bound and even if I shake the book no pages fall out and I don't tear any pages out during the exam, am I allowed to keep it with me during the exam?
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: paulsterio on July 05, 2012, 06:42:49 pm
Short answer, you are not allowed to bring in a book with perforated pages, that's what the rules state.

You may decide to not follow the rules, but if you care about/need your reference, then you obviously would want to follow the rules, so no, do not bring inn anything with perforations.
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Deleted User on July 05, 2012, 07:47:34 pm
Short answer, you are not allowed to bring in a book with perforated pages, that's what the rules state.

You may decide to not follow the rules, but if you care about/need your reference, then you obviously would want to follow the rules, so no, do not bring inn anything with perforations.

So the only way to fix this problem is to tear out all the pages, then bind them?!?!
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Starlight on July 05, 2012, 07:51:57 pm
Short answer, you are not allowed to bring in a book with perforated pages, that's what the rules state.

You may decide to not follow the rules, but if you care about/need your reference, then you obviously would want to follow the rules, so no, do not bring inn anything with perforations.

So the only way to fix this problem is to tear out all the pages, then bind them?!?!

As paulsterio previously mentioned: '
At the end of the year, take out the spiral, run a hot glue gun or PVA down the spine and go over it with duct tape'
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: paulsterio on July 05, 2012, 08:16:49 pm
So the only way to fix this problem is to tear out all the pages, then bind them?!?!

Don't tear out the pages, just unwind the spiral, you know how to do that right? just take one end of the spiral, straighten it out so it can go through the hole and just turn the spiral over and over again, it will begin to move down the book, just repeat until you reach the bottom.

Then straighten up the book by tapping it on all four sides on a table, then get a bulldog clip and clamp your book together. Now get someone to hold it for you while you run a hot glue gun down the spine of the book, now add a few staples in it as well, then tape it all up with duct tape.

There, it shouldn't take any more than 15 minutes if you do it properly.
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Deleted User on July 11, 2012, 06:16:21 pm
Can I just tear out all the pages, then staple along one side? Is that considered to be bounded?
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: pi on July 11, 2012, 06:20:05 pm
Can I just tear out all the pages, then staple along one side? Is that considered to be bounded?

If you ten tape over those staples (duct tape or something), then that's fine. I did that with my loose A4 sheets to make a book :)
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: FlorianK on July 11, 2012, 06:55:00 pm
So I can just take some pages of notes or exams and duct tape it to my text book?
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: pi on July 11, 2012, 07:37:23 pm
So I can just take some pages of notes or exams and duct tape it to my text book?

Not sure about that, my whole reference was kinda taped and stapled together so it looked like an actual book, maybe try contacting VCAA directly on that query, it seems a bit shifty though.
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: paulsterio on July 11, 2012, 07:40:27 pm
The straight answer is no. That is not one single spine - I know someone who got into a bit of strife doing this. Best to just write the notes on the inside cover of your book or to use the notes pages at the end of the book.
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: Deleted User on July 11, 2012, 08:52:24 pm
Ok....... so if I tape all the pages along one side, then staple that side, is that enouggh?
Title: Re: One bound book
Post by: paulsterio on July 11, 2012, 09:10:19 pm
Ok....... so if I tape all the pages along one side, then staple that side, is that enouggh?

If it is securely bounded then yes