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Title: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: jmosh002 on July 13, 2012, 09:47:37 pm
Hi all,
I want to get an idea of how hard the competition is at the different undergraduate medicine courses interstate (non-vic).
So, If anyone has got into a undergaduate med course (or knows of any who has) interstate, would you mind posting your umat and atar score and what uni?

Thanks
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: pi on July 14, 2012, 04:59:47 pm
As a Victorian, UTas would like you to have 100%ile UMAT, and it's particularly hard to get into UWS too. JCU also has a preference for rural applicants from what I've heard.

From memory, Monash is the only uni that does NOT preference their own state (ie. Vics) ahead of everyone else (level playing field), so it's a tougher route to take if you want to go interstate.
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: thushan on July 14, 2012, 06:35:57 pm
Isn't UNSW also unbiased towards interstaters?
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: pi on July 14, 2012, 06:37:36 pm
Isn't UNSW also unbiased towards interstaters?

They offer interstate interviews separately, so from that viewpoint, I'd say they're a little biased.
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: thushan on July 14, 2012, 06:42:09 pm
Isn't UNSW also unbiased towards interstaters?

They offer interstate interviews separately, so from that viewpoint, I'd say they're a little biased.

Not really. They offer interstate interviews with the regular pool, but schedule it for later.
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: Truck on July 14, 2012, 06:54:08 pm
UTas would like you to have 100%ile UMAT

That seems really stupid, I'd assume the vast majority of people who got 100%ile UMAT would also get into Monash or at least a QLD or NSW Med School ... who would actually end up going to UTas with that good a UMAT score :p.
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: Shenz0r on July 14, 2012, 06:55:47 pm
UTas would like you to have 100%ile UMAT

That seems really stupid, I'd assume the vast majority of people who got 100%ile UMAT would also get into Monash or at least a QLD or NSW Med School ... who would actually end up going to UTas with that good a UMAT score :p.

I thought the cut-off for UTas was 98th percentile?

I'd expect many many many interstaters to be at UTas...
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: pi on July 14, 2012, 06:56:30 pm
UTas would like you to have 100%ile UMAT

That seems really stupid, I'd assume the vast majority of people who got 100%ile UMAT would also get into Monash or at least a QLD or NSW Med School ... who would actually end up going to UTas with that good a UMAT score :p.

I thought the cut-off for UTas was 98th percentile?

I'd expect many many many interstaters to be at UTas...

Nah, it's literally like 100%ile for first round offers


Isn't UNSW also unbiased towards interstaters?

They offer interstate interviews separately, so from that viewpoint, I'd say they're a little biased.

Not really. They offer interstate interviews with the regular pool, but schedule it for later.

I just remember ME telling us that Monash was the only truly unbiased uni, although knowing them... Might not be true haha :P
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: Shenz0r on July 14, 2012, 07:00:07 pm
UTas would like you to have 100%ile UMAT

That seems really stupid, I'd assume the vast majority of people who got 100%ile UMAT would also get into Monash or at least a QLD or NSW Med School ... who would actually end up going to UTas with that good a UMAT score :p.

I thought the cut-off for UTas was 98th percentile?

I'd expect many many many interstaters to be at UTas...

Nah, it's literally like 100%ile for first round offers

Dayum.

Apparently UQ MBBS has no Year 12 entry? Does it operate like UoM?
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: pi on July 14, 2012, 07:03:05 pm
Yeah similar, but from their site, it looks like they still have the prov entry http://www.som.uq.edu.au/future-students/bachelor-of-medicine-bachelor-of-surgery-(mbbs)/mbbs-admissions.aspx

UQ's the easiest by far to get into
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: thushan on July 14, 2012, 07:18:03 pm
UTas would like you to have 100%ile UMAT

That seems really stupid, I'd assume the vast majority of people who got 100%ile UMAT would also get into Monash or at least a QLD or NSW Med School ... who would actually end up going to UTas with that good a UMAT score :p.

Its only because they only take like 5 people from interstate and entry to UTas is entirely based on UMAT, with a hurdle ATAR of 95, no interview.
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: Surgeon on July 15, 2012, 10:53:01 pm
For UQ MBBS, do you need OP1 (99+ ATAR) to be considered?

What are the first round interviews for other MBBS courses like? (Based on UMAT). Higher or lower than Monash?
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: pi on July 15, 2012, 11:14:52 pm
For UQ MBBS, do you need OP1 (99+ ATAR) to be considered?

What are the first round interviews for other MBBS courses like? (Based on UMAT). Higher or lower than Monash?

Yep, OP1 or equiv, but they give bonus points (to the ATAR I think) based on LOTEs (2 points each) and Spesh (2 points) and uni subs (1 point) with a maximum of 5 bonus points in total :) So getting 95 ATAR and getting in is still possible if you've done the right subs.

Should be around the same given that Monash's will drop a little this year with no ATAR/UMAT interview stream. But most unis interstate give favour to their own state, so be weary of that.


edit: wrote aggregate instead of ATAR, oops
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: Shenz0r on July 15, 2012, 11:37:34 pm
For UQ MBBS, do you need OP1 (99+ ATAR) to be considered?

What are the first round interviews for other MBBS courses like? (Based on UMAT). Higher or lower than Monash?

Yep, OP1 or equiv, but they give bonus points (to the ATAR I think) based on LOTEs (2 points each) and Spesh (2 points) and uni subs (1 point) with a maximum of 5 bonus points in total :) So getting 95 ATAR and getting in is still possible if you've done the right subs.

So if you're doing two languages, you get 2/5 points?
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: pi on July 15, 2012, 11:40:55 pm
Nah, 4/5 points :) So for example, if you get between 95-99.95 ATAR, it'll become 99 in their eyes (maxed at 99 - OP1) :)
Title: Re: Undergraduate Medicine Interstate Competitiveness?
Post by: stonecold on July 16, 2012, 12:08:37 am
Just note that UQ is also moving to MD as of 2015.  MBBS will no longer be offered.  This could affect some of the spots available as they are considering whether to offer FFP places to local students.   AFAIK, they will still be doing the combined Bachelors + MD double degree course for school leavers.

http://www.som.uq.edu.au/about/organisation/doctor-of-medicine-degree-(md)-at-uq.aspx