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Uni Stuff => Universities - New South Wales => Australian National University => Topic started by: Surgeon on August 18, 2012, 03:22:59 pm
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So I'm interested in applying for this course, but I can't seem to find it on the UAC site under ANU.
I can find the Bachelor of Politics, Philosophy and Economics, however.
Can anyone shed any light on this or find it for me?
Thanks
Edit: Is the ANU gym on campus and is it open 24/7? Is there a lap pool in the gym?
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? Juris Doctor is a graduate law degree...
There is a gym on campus, but no lap pool. Not sure how late it's open.
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? Juris Doctor is a graduate law degree...
There is a gym on campus, but no lap pool. Not sure how late it's open.
I know! Direct entry into a graduate law degree, how cool is that!?
http://vcdesk.anu.edu.au/2012/08/08/new-double-degree-an-australian-first/
About halfway down the page
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I would just apply for the PPE and transfer in if all else failed. Either that, or contact the university directly.
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I would just apply for the PPE and transfer in if all else failed. Either that, or contact the university directly.
Thanks.
I called up ANU and wow everyone I spoke to was so nice. I really hope I end up there. Not sure if I would prefer the PPE/JD over medicine, though.
The PPE/JD just isn't up on the UAC yet but it should be up in a couple of days.
Predicted clearly-in ATAR of just over 96.
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What?! Clearly-in of 96 for a JD? Surely even the clearly-in for the LBB at ANU would be a LOT higher...
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What?! Clearly-in of 96 for a JD? Surely even the clearly-in for the LBB at ANU would be a LOT higher...
Yes. That seems unusual - would expect there was a minimum GPA requirement also. A law degree from ANU, particularly a graduate law degree in which you can study their masters-level units as electives is fantastic. Their IR & IL depts are world-class.
The curriculum looks really impressive.
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What?! Clearly-in of 96 for a JD? Surely even the clearly-in for the LBB at ANU would be a LOT higher...
The LLB double degree clearly-in is 96.00 regardless of whether it's Arts/Law. Comm/Law, Science/Law, anything.
Hopefully the PPE/JD is 96-97. I can't see it being too much higher than 96-97 because it's the first the course is being offered.
Edit: Keep in mind that they said just above 96 and this is only an estimate. It could end up being 99.5. Depends on the number of applications and number of places available.
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Bear in mind that it's what they're predicting, it may change based on supply/demand. I agree that 96 seems low, but there might be a deterrent effect due to many people having to move to Canberra
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What?! Clearly-in of 96 for a JD? Surely even the clearly-in for the LBB at ANU would be a LOT higher...
The LLB double degree clearly-in is 96.00 regardless of whether it's Arts/Law. Comm/Law, Science/Law, anything.
Hopefully the PPE/JD is 96-97. I can't see it being too much higher than 96-97 because it's the first the course is being offered.
Interesting. Although (and I probably should have realised this before) it obviously has to do with there being less demand for spots from interstate students given the location and lesser population of Canberra in comparison to Melbourne, etc.
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Bear in mind that it's what they're predicting, it may change based on supply/demand. I agree that 96 seems low, but there might be a deterrent effect due to many people having to move to Canberra
Why isn't this a more common plan B for year 12 Law hopefuls? As opposed to Medicine where competition is effectively the same nationwide, if someone was desperate to get into Law but didn't make the 98-99 requirement for Monash, USyd, etc, they could easily make the Canberra move. Don't hear enough people talking about it, even those who think their chances at Monash are low...
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Bear in mind that it's what they're predicting, it may change based on supply/demand. I agree that 96 seems low, but there might be a deterrent effect due to many people having to move to Canberra
Why isn't this a more common plan B for year 12 Law hopefuls? As opposed to Medicine where competition is effectively the same nationwide, if someone was desperate to get into Law but didn't make the 98-99 requirement for Monash, USyd, etc, they could easily make the Canberra move. Don't hear enough people talking about it, even those who think their chances at Monash are low...
Why isn't it a more common plan B? Not many people may want to move to Canberra due to being away from family or seeing it as a "dead" city.
To be honest, I don't particularly mind being away from family temporarily, or living in a "dead" town, because I'll get a f****** awesome degree out of it.
For my sake, please don't tell too many people about the PPE/JD :P
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Bear in mind that it's what they're predicting, it may change based on supply/demand. I agree that 96 seems low, but there might be a deterrent effect due to many people having to move to Canberra
Why isn't this a more common plan B for year 12 Law hopefuls? As opposed to Medicine where competition is effectively the same nationwide, if someone was desperate to get into Law but didn't make the 98-99 requirement for Monash, USyd, etc, they could easily make the Canberra move. Don't hear enough people talking about it, even those who think their chances at Monash are low...
Why isn't it a more common plan B? Not many people may want to move to Canberra due to being away from family or seeing it as a "dead" city.
To be honest, I don't particularly mind being away from family temporarily, or living in a "dead" town, because I'll get a f****** awesome degree out of it.
For my sake, please don't tell too many people about the PPE/JD :P
Enough people are willing to do anything to get into med, including pay tens of thousands for a FFP MD, so I don't see how a move to Canberra is an unreasonable compromise...
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Bear in mind that it's what they're predicting, it may change based on supply/demand. I agree that 96 seems low, but there might be a deterrent effect due to many people having to move to Canberra
Why isn't this a more common plan B for year 12 Law hopefuls? As opposed to Medicine where competition is effectively the same nationwide, if someone was desperate to get into Law but didn't make the 98-99 requirement for Monash, USyd, etc, they could easily make the Canberra move. Don't hear enough people talking about it, even those who think their chances at Monash are low...
Why isn't it a more common plan B? Not many people may want to move to Canberra due to being away from family or seeing it as a "dead" city.
To be honest, I don't particularly mind being away from family temporarily, or living in a "dead" town, because I'll get a f****** awesome degree out of it.
For my sake, please don't tell too many people about the PPE/JD :P
Enough people are willing to do anything to get into med, including pay tens of thousands for a FFP MD, so I don't see how a move to Canberra is an unreasonable compromise...
Well I don't think ANU offers direct entry into undergraduate medicine.
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That wasn't my point :P What I was/am trying to say is that if people are willing to take desperate measures to get into med, why not the same for law? Perhaps there's not enough awareness that the required ATAR is only 96 at ANU?
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That wasn't my point :P What I was/am trying to say is that if people are willing to take desperate measures to get into med, why not the same for law? Perhaps there's not enough awareness that the required ATAR is only 96 at ANU?
Yeah, I think that's it.
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Surgeon, being SEMI off topic, but have you considered ANU's PhB/MBBS? Contact them about it, they havent advertised it properly. Minimum ATAR 99, interview required, no UMAT.
Downside is that you need to maintain a HD average during your PhB years.
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Continuing the semi off-topic trend, does anyone know if there would be the option of studying a language during the PPE degree? I had a look on the site and couldn't find anything, but perhaps someone knows if there is this option.
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Continuing the semi off-topic trend, does anyone know if there would be the option of studying a language during the PPE degree? I had a look on the site and couldn't find anything, but perhaps someone knows if there is this option.
There is definitely scope if you want to, although most students doing PPE would have to start it in second year. That said, if you really wanted to you could indeed start a language from first year and just spend an extra semester or so finishing your degree (which is actually fine IMO - I've found most of the really involved students at the ANU spend longer finishing their degrees than usual). Note that university language learning is intense as well - depending on the language in question, you get to high school level within two years or so (for ANU, you get to post-high school level Japanese in just one year - it's crazy).
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Is that manageable? At the risk of going off-topic I'm looking into doing a DipLang (French) at UoM next year alongside a BA. How much time/practice do you need to put in outside of class to be proficient in the language once you're done?
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Is that manageable? At the risk of going off-topic I'm looking into doing a DipLang (French) at UoM next year alongside a BA. How much time/practice do you need to put in outside of class to be proficient in the language once you're done?
A lot of time, but it's manageable. I did two language subjects every semester up until this, and have always done pretty well in them whilst maintaining a pretty active cocurricular life - it was pretty insane at times though.
I guess to put it in perspective with language proficiency - I started ancient Greek last year, and now I can read Homer. :p
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I guess to put it in perspective with language proficiency - I started ancient Greek last year, and now I can read Homer. :p
Are you an ANU student? My memory inclines towards yes, something to do with ANU's language program being pretty superior?
Does ANU dominate by a large margin in terms of languages?
/too lazy to create loophole to be on topic.
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I guess to put it in perspective with language proficiency - I started ancient Greek last year, and now I can read Homer. :p
Are you an ANU student? My memory inclines towards yes, something to do with ANU's language program being pretty superior?
Does ANU dominate by a large margin in terms of languages?
/too lazy to create loophole to be on topic.
ANU's language program is pretty insane (2nd year Japanese is the equivalent of 4th year at Melbourne and Monash) - it does depend on the language in question though. I would say the ANU is generally superior with Asian languages definitely though - it also offers the most Asian languages of any faculty in the entire Western world (something like ten?).
Also of interest to probably a few of you: http://news.anu.edu.au/?p=16701
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Also of interest to probably a few of you: http://news.anu.edu.au/?p=16701
Thanks very much.
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I guess to put it in perspective with language proficiency - I started ancient Greek last year, and now I can read Homer. :p
Are you an ANU student? My memory inclines towards yes, something to do with ANU's language program being pretty superior?
Does ANU dominate by a large margin in terms of languages?
/too lazy to create loophole to be on topic.
ANU's language program is pretty insane (2nd year Japanese is the equivalent of 4th year at Melbourne and Monash) - it does depend on the language in question though. I would say the ANU is generally superior with Asian languages definitely though - it also offers the most Asian languages of any faculty in the entire Western world (something like ten?).
Also of interest to probably a few of you: http://news.anu.edu.au/?p=16701
This is definitely a massive appeal; especially if you're looking to do something in a political sense, being able to study multiple languages as opposed to just one would open so many options. My head says to go to ANU but my heart wants me to stay in Melbourne.
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I guess to put it in perspective with language proficiency - I started ancient Greek last year, and now I can read Homer. :p
Are you an ANU student? My memory inclines towards yes, something to do with ANU's language program being pretty superior?
Does ANU dominate by a large margin in terms of languages?
/too lazy to create loophole to be on topic.
ANU's language program is pretty insane (2nd year Japanese is the equivalent of 4th year at Melbourne and Monash) - it does depend on the language in question though. I would say the ANU is generally superior with Asian languages definitely though - it also offers the most Asian languages of any faculty in the entire Western world (something like ten?).
Also of interest to probably a few of you: http://news.anu.edu.au/?p=16701
This is definitely a massive appeal; especially if you're looking to do something in a political sense, being able to study multiple languages as opposed to just one would open so many options. My head says to go to ANU but my heart wants me to stay in Melbourne.
If you want to work in politics I think ANU is a no-brainer to be honest - it's absolutely amazing and you get to work in MPs' offices in later years. Trust your head on this one - I did, and after some pain my heart never looked back ever again.
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I guess to put it in perspective with language proficiency - I started ancient Greek last year, and now I can read Homer. :p
Are you an ANU student? My memory inclines towards yes, something to do with ANU's language program being pretty superior?
Does ANU dominate by a large margin in terms of languages?
/too lazy to create loophole to be on topic.
ANU's language program is pretty insane (2nd year Japanese is the equivalent of 4th year at Melbourne and Monash) - it does depend on the language in question though. I would say the ANU is generally superior with Asian languages definitely though - it also offers the most Asian languages of any faculty in the entire Western world (something like ten?).
Also of interest to probably a few of you: http://news.anu.edu.au/?p=16701
This is definitely a massive appeal; especially if you're looking to do something in a political sense, being able to study multiple languages as opposed to just one would open so many options. My head says to go to ANU but my heart wants me to stay in Melbourne.
If you want to work in politics I think ANU is a no-brainer to be honest - it's absolutely amazing and you get to work in MPs' offices in later years. Trust your head on this one - I did, and after some pain my heart never looked back ever again.
Will definitely give it more though. Are scholarships available for living on campus?
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I would just apply for the PPE and transfer in if all else failed. Either that, or contact the university directly.
Thanks.
I called up ANU and wow everyone I spoke to was so nice. I really hope I end up there. Not sure if I would prefer the PPE/JD over medicine, though.
The PPE/JD just isn't up on the UAC yet but it should be up in a couple of days.
Predicted clearly-in ATAR of just over 96.
It's on the UAC list now. Just made it #1 preference... as for the cut off, I found this reassuring quote:
"Additional information: This is an elite degree and is expected to have an ATAR requirement of 96."
I hope they're right! Or they could just mean a minimum ATAR of 96, with the cuttoff being higher... I don't know how NSW works :(
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I would just apply for the PPE and transfer in if all else failed. Either that, or contact the university directly.
Thanks.
I called up ANU and wow everyone I spoke to was so nice. I really hope I end up there. Not sure if I would prefer the PPE/JD over medicine, though.
The PPE/JD just isn't up on the UAC yet but it should be up in a couple of days.
Predicted clearly-in ATAR of just over 96.
It's on the UAC list now. Just made it #1 preference... as for the cut off, I found this reassuring quote:
"Additional information: This is an elite degree and is expected to have an ATAR requirement of 96."
I hope they're right! Or they could just mean a minimum ATAR of 96, with the cuttoff being higher... I don't know how NSW works :(
Thanks for letting me know! Just checked it out on the UAC.
In the course duration section, it says 3F/6P. I'm assuming this is the PPE itself. Would the JD still be a 4 year course ontop?
Is there going to be a minimum score requirement to continue to the JD or do you just need to pass and graduate from the PPE?
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I would just apply for the PPE and transfer in if all else failed. Either that, or contact the university directly.
Thanks.
I called up ANU and wow everyone I spoke to was so nice. I really hope I end up there. Not sure if I would prefer the PPE/JD over medicine, though.
The PPE/JD just isn't up on the UAC yet but it should be up in a couple of days.
Predicted clearly-in ATAR of just over 96.
It's on the UAC list now. Just made it #1 preference... as for the cut off, I found this reassuring quote:
"Additional information: This is an elite degree and is expected to have an ATAR requirement of 96."
I hope they're right! Or they could just mean a minimum ATAR of 96, with the cuttoff being higher... I don't know how NSW works :(
Thanks for letting me know! Just checked it out on the UAC.
In the course duration section, it says 3F/6P. I'm assuming this is the PPE itself. Would the JD still be a 4 year course ontop?
Is there going to be a minimum score requirement to continue to the JD or do you just need to pass and graduate from the PPE?
You need a 65% average, and JD is three years on top of the PPE.
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I would just apply for the PPE and transfer in if all else failed. Either that, or contact the university directly.
Thanks.
I called up ANU and wow everyone I spoke to was so nice. I really hope I end up there. Not sure if I would prefer the PPE/JD over medicine, though.
The PPE/JD just isn't up on the UAC yet but it should be up in a couple of days.
Predicted clearly-in ATAR of just over 96.
It's on the UAC list now. Just made it #1 preference... as for the cut off, I found this reassuring quote:
"Additional information: This is an elite degree and is expected to have an ATAR requirement of 96."
I hope they're right! Or they could just mean a minimum ATAR of 96, with the cuttoff being higher... I don't know how NSW works :(
Thanks for letting me know! Just checked it out on the UAC.
In the course duration section, it says 3F/6P. I'm assuming this is the PPE itself. Would the JD still be a 4 year course ontop?
Is there going to be a minimum score requirement to continue to the JD or do you just need to pass and graduate from the PPE?
You need a 65% average, and JD is three years on top of the PPE.
As long as I put in a good amount of effort (which I'm sure I will, considering its in Canberra), is a 65% average easily achievable?
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Piece of string, but if you can't get a 65% average then going onto a JD probably isn't the best idea. So no, it shouldn't be too hard
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The BPPE single intake will be ~30 and whilst the minimum for the BPPE/JD vertical is 96 it's their counter to UoMs guaranteed pathway. With the vertical you will be able to complete it in less time as the Master's courses start in 3rd year. However, as of yesterday afternoon they could still not confirm whether or not the JD component was CSP or Fee.
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Can anyone see the clearly-in being 99+ for 2013 entry for the PPE/JD?
Piece of string, but if you can't get a 65% average then going onto a JD probably isn't the best idea. So no, it shouldn't be too hard
65% average doesn't seem too difficult, but I'm not sure what to make of different marks in university, considering everyone says it's different to VCE.
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Can anyone see the clearly-in being 99+ for 2013 entry for the PPE/JD?
Depends on how successful the marketing is. Tentatively I'd say no due to curtailed demand as a result of being in Canberra and yr12s often have trouble thinking big-picture with course choices (ie more likely to stay local, esp if there is a sandstone university nearby). 30 place is small though.
Many students have appropriately unfocused aspirations for law, international relations, trade, politics and economics etc - this qualification is near ideal for that crowd, so it really will come down to how well it is marketed.
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Can anyone see the clearly-in being 99+ for 2013 entry for the PPE/JD?
Depends on how successful the marketing is. Tentatively I'd say no due to curtailed demand as a result of being in Canberra and yr12s often have trouble thinking big-picture with course choices (ie more likely to stay local, esp if there is a sandstone university nearby). 30 place is small though.
Many students have appropriately unfocused aspirations for law, international relations, trade, politics and economics etc - this qualification is near ideal for that crowd, so it really will come down to how well it is marketed.
Let's hope that it isn't marketed very well, then...
Is the 30 places applicable to the PPE/JD or the PPE only? They are separate courses under the UAC.
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However, as of yesterday afternoon they could still not confirm whether or not the JD component was CSP or Fee.
I'm sure most people would have considered this already, but just in case: Do check this. The difference is in the order of tens of thousands of dollars.
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Probably still 30, it's just the people doing the JD bit will have the option of continuing on to study the JD