ATAR Notes: Forum
Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => Monash University => Topic started by: McFleurry on December 12, 2012, 09:15:29 pm
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Hi!
Pretty much the title says it all. Does anyone know anything about this course? Is anyone doing it? What's it like?
Any information would be awesome.
Thanks :)
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You will find your self going between Parkville Campus and Clayton Campus so you might want to do unit from clayton only one semester and parkville only the next. Otherwise it takes a fair while to travel between parkville and clayton
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^ Nah doesn't work like that.
It's simply a Bachelor of Pharmacy degree (done in 4 years at Parkville), then a Commerce degree (done in 2 years at Clayton). You have to do an extra year of internship to become a registered Pharmacist however.
Those doing Bachelor of Pharmacy or Bachelor of Pharmacy/Commerce will be in the same cohort throughout the 4 years (i.e. you are not separate in any way - not until you finish the Pharmacy degree at least)
Have a look at the handbook entry for more information
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^ Nah doesn't work like that.
It's simply a Bachelor of Pharmacy degree (done in 4 years at Parkville), then a Commerce degree (done in 2 years at Clayton). You have to do an extra year of internship to become a registered Pharmacist however.
Those doing Bachelor of Pharmacy or Bachelor of Pharmacy/Commerce will be in the same cohort throughout the 4 years (i.e. you are not separate in any way - not until you finish the Pharmacy degree at least)
Have a look at the handbook entry for more information
I stand corrected. :)
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Do u guys know the atar requirement for Pharmacy at Monash?? :)
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No specific requirement, and since it doesn't take into account UMAT for 2013 student intake, could be anything, but my guess is a 95 ATAR would get you in quite comfortably.
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The pharmacy landscape has changed dramatically over the last decade. Be careful about doing pharmacy because there is now an over-supply of new pharmacists in the market - so unless you are willing to go out to work in the regional areas or can get some work experience (ie. webster packing, Dispensing at an actual pharmacy), you will be competing in a very saturated job market.
This can be indicates in the atar req for entrance - back when i did my vce the atar needed for a place was closer to 98-99. It has since dropped to around 95-96. (these estimates comes directly from talking to current and past monash pharmacy students).
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Well, say if you studied pharmacy then commerce, then through this could you like develop your own pharmacy/business?
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Of course you can, the question is do you have the money to?
Also, there is no real benefit in doing commerce just to hope they you will run a much more profitable business.
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The pharmacy landscape has changed dramatically over the last decade. Be careful about doing pharmacy because there is now an over-supply of new pharmacists in the market - so unless you are willing to go out to work in the regional areas or can get some work experience (ie. webster packing, Dispensing at an actual pharmacy), you will be competing in a very saturated job market.
This can be indicates in the atar req for entrance - back when i did my vce the atar needed for a place was closer to 98-99. It has since dropped to around 95-96. (these estimates comes directly from talking to current and past monash pharmacy students).
Actually there are some that can get in with high 80's. I think the reason they don't report the cut off is more because the cut off is so much lower than one would anticipate.
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Well, say if you studied pharmacy then commerce, then through this could you like develop your own pharmacy/business?
Ohh that sounds interesting!
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If you have a couple of hundred grands lying around you can buy a license. Due to capping of licenses by the pharmacy guild, licenses are ridiculously expensive AND restrictive.
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If you have a couple of hundred grands lying around you can buy a license. Due to capping of licenses by the pharmacy guild, licenses are ridiculously expensive AND restrictive.
I want to do Engineering and Commerce so I won't need that license, I'll be modifying cars instead :)
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I want to do Engineering and Commerce so I won't need that license, I'll be modifying cars instead :)
Don't know if you need to do engineering/commerce to modify cars lol
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I hate being a girl lol, finding a suitable uni course is just so difficult. I was going to put aerospace as one of my first preferences, but then my physics teacher( a female) told me that its difficult for females to be easily accepted for an engineering job as she herself studied engineering but then transferred to teaching because none of engineering companies accepted her. :( :(
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I hate being a girl lol, finding a suitable uni course is just so difficult. I was going to put aerospace as one of my first preferences, but then my physics teacher( a female) told me that its difficult for females to be easily accepted for an engineering job as she herself studied engineering but then transferred to teaching because none of engineering companies accepted her. :( :(
I dare say that it could've just been her. I don't think she can label it difficult for all females just because she found it difficult. I could be wrong though. Monash have a scholarship for women doing engineering. Aerospace is pretty much Mech with a bit of fluid dynamics and stuff so I've heard people say that aero students are put in front of regular mechanical engineering students as well.
Don't know if you need to do engineering/commerce to modify cars lol
I'll design a door, and it'll just fall off because there is too much torque being put on it for it to stay in position :P It's useful knowledge nonetheless :)
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I hate being a girl lol, finding a suitable uni course is just so difficult. I was going to put aerospace as one of my first preferences, but then my physics teacher( a female) told me that its difficult for females to be easily accepted for an engineering job as she herself studied engineering but then transferred to teaching because none of engineering companies accepted her. :( :(
I have a girl friend that has just graduated and she said that companies are very keen to hire women engineers!
(she and the other few girls all have excellent jobs)
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I have a girl friend that just graduated and she said that companies are very keen to hire women engineers!
(she and the other few girls all have excellent jobs)
Yeah same with IT.
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Dont let that kind of bias discourage you from doing what you enjoy.
Having said that, the aerospace industry in australia is practically non existent - so that might also be another reason why your physics teacher found it hard to gain entry into the industry.
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Thanks guys :) so do you all really think that it is really that hard to actually find a career in pharmacy. I'm so concerned atm as I have put pharmacy at Monash and rmit in my top 2 preferences. I seriously don't know what to do as I really wanted to do pharamcy:(
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First thing to do if u start pharmacy school is to get a job at a pharmacy - working as a dispensing technician and even a webster packer (if your pharmacy provides for
Nursing homes). These will be invaluable when you look for a trainee spot after you graduate and also when you do become a pharmacist. The market might be saturated with new pharmacists, but experienced ones are very hard to find.
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Okay, how about Oral Health?? Can you easily find a job for that and if you do is the pay good??
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Actually there are some that can get in with high 80's. I think the reason they don't report the cut off is more because the cut off is so much lower than one would anticipate.
The reason they don't report a cut-off is because there hasn't been a cohort based on ATAR-only yet...
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Pharmacy isn't really a great place to be right now :/ Asian families still envisage it as a highly profitable and stable career but it is much less so these days compared to 10 years ago. Like others have said job stability is questionable atm, even for experienced pharmacists - particularly if you want to be paid well as the employers can employ pharmacists who will work for less. This is the case for students who have graduated, they get paid very low so some students are leaving the industry completely because of the limited jobs and/or salary/stability. I know a few people studying pharmacy atm looking to study post grad med or dent, even engineering now. Also, it would be incredibly difficult to start your own pharmacy these days you have the huge retailers such as Chemist Warehouse who simply dominate the market. They purchase in absolute bulk and sell at very low prices and are driving private owners and businesses out of the industry, simply because the latter cannot compete. I'm currently working at a chemist and I can tell you now that it's not exactly what you'd imagine it to be. The big retail chemists only care about profits. Management and the owners push the franchises to sell more, then everyone in the chain tells people below them to do this do that and at times due to this, store people and even pharmacists disregard customer health and safety :/ Also, the pay is crap - for everyone, I know a couple of pharmacists who want a pay rise but the employer won't give it... Everyone hates the joint, but hey, you've got to pay the bills and keep a roof on your head.
I think the Oral Health course at Melbourne Uni trains you to become a dental technician so you're not a dentist. Also, I'm not entirely sure but I think you can't do post grad dent with that because you don't satisfy the pre-requisite units for dent. Double check that though! I'd say job wise it'd be easier to get than pharmacy and the pay would be ok - that's just a guess I don't know any specific figures. Well according to this: http://www.payscale.com/research/AU/Job=Dental_Technician/Salary $30k-$68k~
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Okay, so now I am beginning to think that probably Engineering will maybe be more suitable for me atm. Now, the question is what type of engineering do you think will enable me to find a job easily, I'm a female btw, and will also provide me with a good pay??
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Okay, so now I am beginning to think that probably Engineering will maybe be more suitable for me atm. Now, the question is what type of engineering do you think will enable me to find a job easily, I'm a female btw, and will also provide me with a good pay??
Civil or chemical
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Okay, so now I am beginning to think that probably Engineering will maybe be more suitable for me atm. Now, the question is what type of engineering do you think will enable me to find a job easily, I'm a female btw, and will also provide me with a good pay??
Aerospace :D (slight bias).
Reason? Pretty much what I said before. But since you were inclined to pharmacy, how about Chemical? or Biomedical Engineering?
Someone else would have to comment on jobs and salaries though.
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Sorry for the so many questions I'm asking lol but how many years all together will it take if you wanted to study biomed then dentistry at Melbourne?
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Sorry for the so many questions I'm asking lol but how many years all together will it take if you wanted to study biomed then dentistry at Melbourne?
Does this answer you question?
http://coursesearch.unimelb.edu.au/pathways/2-dentistry
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Yeah it does, thanks man :D
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Yeah it does, thanks man :D
No worries :)
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You still have another year to decide what you want to do which is plenty! :) Make sure you sift through all options, go to open days and most importantly choose what you like! Also, remember if you don't make it to #1 there are different pathways to get to that desired course.
I know the feeling, I was exactly like this in year 12!
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Well, the thing is that I've already completed year 12 and now I need to change my top preferences as I've found out that they are not going to easily guarantee me a job when I graduate...yes I know that it's a little late that I'm doing this now, but I seriously need to find a course that I'm interested in but simultaneously will guarantee me a job when I graduate..it's all so hard :-[
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Not many jobs can be guaranteed upon graduation.
Just work hard, get good marks at uni, get some good networking going, and you'll be able to land a job for any career you want.
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Well, the thing is that I've already completed year 12 and now I need to change my top preferences as I've found out that they are not going to easily guarantee me a job when I graduate...yes I know that it's a little late that I'm doing this now, but I seriously need to find a course that I'm interested in but simultaneously will guarantee me a job when I graduate..it's all so hard :-[
Whoops got you confused with OP!
Well, work experience and grades get you the interview for the job, how you present yourself in the interview ultimately determines whether you get the job. So, imo find what interests you and follow it. Get decent grades and try getting as much exposure in the industry as possible. These days it's difficult to get a job after graduating, especially with all the qualifications one can have, their experience, the number of positions available, the number of applications etc. I've read/heard stories about how some job vacancies can have hundreds of applications but there may only be 5 jobs available. They then eliminate by grades and work experience for interviews.
Write down all the courses that you're interested in, research them - look at job stability, salary, potential etc then you decide. Then change your preferences to what you want after results are released. Also, if you're sold on a course or ideal career and you don't think your ATAR will get you an offer for it then make sure you adjust your preferences accordingly so that #2,3... are alternative ways of getting to it, whether it be via transfer after 1st year, doing a honours/masters degree or whatever. I highly recommend that you don't put something completely different as your #2, unless you really are undecided about your future. If that's the case then stick with general degrees like science, commerce, arts etc. Then you can transfer or do post grad studies or whatever. The weekend is enough time to research this stuff! :)
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Thanks so much for your help :) I'm starting to feel a little more optimistic now :) just a quick question, what do you think of this course:
http://www.monash.edu.au/study/coursefinder/course/3879/
Is it worth doing?
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Thanks so much for your help :) I'm starting to feel a little more optimistic now :) just a quick question, what do you think of this course:
http://www.monash.edu.au/study/coursefinder/course/3879/
Is it worth doing?
Yeah, you can become a Biomedical Engineer, depends if you'd enjoy that as to whether it's worth doing :P