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Archived Discussion => 2014 => Results Discussion => Victoria => 2012 => Topic started by: shaiga95 on December 19, 2012, 01:30:21 pm
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People who have ordered statement of marks and will be receiving them in the next few days post up the cut-offs for the subjects you receive a SoM
Psychology: 159/180 = 79.5/90
Biology: 130/150 = 65/75.
IT Applications: 139/180 = 69.5/90
Literature: 69/80 = 34.5/40
Economics: 156/180 = 78/90
English Language: 118/150 = 59/75
Drama written 105/120= 52.5/60
French 343/400= 121.5/200
German 343/400 =121.5/200
Software Development 154/200 =76/100
Business Management 101/130=50.5/65
History Revs 121/160 =60.5/80
Chemistry 121/150=60.5/75
Italian written 266/400 =133/200
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Heres the First one Psychology A+ cut-off 159/180 = 79.5/90
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A+ cut-off in Biology: 130/150 = 65/75.
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A+ cut-off in Biology: 130/150 = 65/75.
Wow.. So high...
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Heres the First one Psychology A+ cut-off 159/180 = 79.5/90
So people were right about the cut-off going to be really high, despite all the arguments against it.
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It was a little higher than I expected , I thought 76-78 but I guess Atarnotes was right on the money
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How did you guys get your SoM so soon?
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I put mine in two weeks ago not sure if that helped
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If I sent mine today, how long to you reckon until it arrives?
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Monday/Tuesday next week at the earliest , but definitely some time next week
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Thanks :) One more question, why does the SoM cost $9.35 per subject? Do they actually have to refer back to your exams and check which questions you got right/wrong, or don't they already have that on a computer already? If all that needs to be done is to print of a sheet and mail it to you, it's sort of exorbitant.
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Thanks :) One more question, why does the SoM cost $9.35 per subject? Do they actually have to refer back to your exams and check which questions you got right/wrong, or don't they already have that on a computer already? If all that needs to be done is to print of a sheet and mail it to you, it's sort of exorbitant.
Because its pretty much the only way VCAA makes money..
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A+ cut-off in IT Applications: 139/180 = 69.5/90
A+ cut off in Literature: 69/80 = 34.5/40
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It should only take a couple days - I faxed mine on the 18th and received it today... Although I received not the Statement of Study Score which I asked for but the Statement of Marks >.< Oh well.
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got my statement of study score for accounting, the mean for the second exam was 95.8 with 48.42 standard deviation. if exam 1 had a mean of 92.8 and 45 standard deviation, and the A+ cut-off was 151/180, what would the A+ cut off for the second exam be?
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Usually about 8-10% obtain an A+
top 8% = standard deviation of 1.4
top 10% = standard deviation of 1.28
The mean for Exam 2 was 95.8
now with an A+ of about 8% =>95.8 + 1.4 x 48.2 = 163/180
or with an A+ of about 10% =>95.8 8 + 1.28 x 48.2 = 157.5/180
approximately 9.3% obtained an A+ on the midyear so the A+ cut-off will probably be around 160/180
hope this helps :)
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the mathgs god has spoken hahaha!
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Usually about 8-10% obtain an A+
top 8% = standard deviation of 1.4
top 10% = standard deviation of 1.28
The mean for Exam 2 was 95.8
now with an A+ of about 8% =>95.8 + 1.4 x 48.2 = 163/180
or with an A+ of about 10% =>95.8 8 + 1.28 x 48.2 = 157.5/180
approximately 9.3% obtained an A+ on the midyear so the A+ cut-off will probably be around 160/180
hope this helps :)
ah, cheers man!
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I faxed mine yesterday morning (SoM and statement of study score), and got it today. I actually though they would take at least a week, but I guess not.
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Does anyone know the A+ cut offs for Methods?
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I'd also be really interested in knowing the cutoffs for Further. :)
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I can't believe the Biology Exam 2 cutoff was 65/75, that's ridiculous!
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I can't believe the Biology Exam 2 cutoff was 65/75, that's ridiculous!
O.O no... way...
people seem to be getting better at biology... i thought the exam was very vague near the end, and i was sure tonnes of people would get the human evo questions wrong (myself included). i thought cutoff would be ~ 62ish/75
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Biology cut off!!! ihvugvuuvihvugcrucig!!
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Kinda surprising, especially with all those 3 mark "explain" type questions. And we thought the cutoff for the midyear was ridiculous :P
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Kinda surprising, especially with all those 3 mark "explain" type questions. And we thought the cutoff for the midyear was ridiculous :P
hahaha true! if only the cutoffs could have been lower for both exams! couldve scraped a 50 (dang!)
hahahahaha all good though! i got higher than expected, so no complaints!
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Wooah really?? 65/75 , is like amazing!! Got the same as mid year ...67/75!
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Yeah, I actually just made it on the A+! It's so stupid how in 2012 we were set exams (both) which had cutoffs so high because they were so much simpler than previous ones, I did so many practice exams and questions but they were all unlike the simplicity of these 2 exams, still got higher than I expected so I can't complain :P
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English A+ Cut-off: 47/60 (23.5/30)
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Yeah, I actually just made it on the A+! It's so stupid how in 2012 we were set exams (both) which had cutoffs so high because they were so much simpler than previous ones, I did so many practice exams and questions but they were all unlike the simplicity of these 2 exams, still got higher than I expected so I can't complain :P
I totally agree. although i dont think it was actually intentional on VCAA's behalf, because they write both exams before the midyears... i think it was just a coincidence that most people found both exams relatively easy imo :D i was just happy it wasnt like some of the previous end of years... some of them were actually evil.
English A+ Cut-off: 47/60 (23.5/30)
hopefully it can drop a little next year :D
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I think English has been 47/60 consistently.
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I think English has been 47/60 consistently.
haha i can dream ^_^ haha its probably because of the huge cohort that does it. variation in cutoffs is unlikely i suppose :)
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the A+ cut-off will probably be around 160/180
You were close!
The A+ cut-off for Accounting was actually 158/180.
Also,
For Economics: 156/180
For English Language: 118/150
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Hey idk if I should post it here but the day after i got my results, I ordered a statement of SS.. and a few days later they posted me a statement of marks.. I emailed them to say I didn't order that (and they have visual proof of what I circled), yet they havent responded and I havent received anything.. But that's unfair because it's not my mistake, its theirs! :@ :S
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Does anyone know the physics and chem cut offs, I'm curious lol
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Does anyone know the physics and chem cut offs, I'm curious lol
61.5/72 for chem
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wow I thought the chem. end of year was easier than that o.0
Anyone else agree?
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I thought Chem was 60.5?
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I thought Chem was 60.5?
yeah sorry my bad, it was
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You were close!
The A+ cut-off for Accounting was actually 158/180.
after the exam i thought it was gonna be around 82 (164) haha. what exam marks did you get for your 50?
congrats on your amazing atar btw :P
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I thought Chem was 60.5?
60.5 for Chem? Woah, that's lower than I expected. Must be the sorbate qn and the energy sources qn.
I wonder what the A+ cut for chem next year would be (say the exam is out of 125). Given there will be an extended response question and a higher focus on explain questions...I'm going to reckon A+ will slide to about 80% - so 100/125.
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I know I was surprised too lol, I'm pretty sure after very harshly marking my self I only lost a max of 9-10 marks and ended up with b+...thank god I don't have to deal with stupid VCAA anymore. :P
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Anyone know Methods cut-offs??
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Still no one with the Further A+ cut-offs?
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after the exam i thought it was gonna be around 82 (164) haha. what exam marks did you get for your 50?
congrats on your amazing atar btw :P
Thanks! I really wasn't expecting to get 50 in Accounting, especially after reading the assessor's report for the mid-year exam and realising I'd gotten a few theory questions wrong. But I got 174/180 (87/90) for Exam 1, full SAC marks (200/200), and 173/180 (86.5/90) for Exam 2. Geez, how did I end up doing better in the mid-year than the end-of-year...
Anyway, congrats on your 50! Yay for Accounting! Do you know your exam marks?
Still no one with the Further A+ cut-offs?
I'd be curious to know these, too.
I may be ordering a Statement of Marks for Exam 2, because my Statement of Study Score tells me that I got 119/120, which means that one assessor thought I got full marks but the other didn't. I mean, does that even happen with a subject like Further? I'm guessing that one of them might have taken issue with the accuracy of my contour map or something...
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I may be ordering a Statement of Marks for Exam 2, because my Statement of Study Score tells me that I got 119/120, which means that one assessor thought I got full marks but the other didn't. I mean, does that even happen with a subject like Further? I'm guessing that one of them might have taken issue with the accuracy of my contour map or something...
Yeah, I got my statement of the study score today, and received 115/120 for exam two. I was thinking maybe doubts with the worded answers could be another source of the assessors scoring a point, while the other doesn't.
If anyone cares though, the A+ cutoff for the drama written was 105/120 :)
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Thanks! I really wasn't expecting to get 50 in Accounting, especially after reading the assessor's report for the mid-year exam and realising I'd gotten a few theory questions wrong. But I got 174/180 (87/90) for Exam 1, full SAC marks (200/200), and 173/180 (86.5/90) for Exam 2. Geez, how did I end up doing better in the mid-year than the end-of-year...
Anyway, congrats on your 50! Yay for Accounting! Do you know your exam marks?
damn that is a beastt exam 1 score... my mate talked to neville box at his lecture and apparently the highest mark for that exam was 87.5 :O. i got 85.5 for exam 1, 199/200 scaled sac marks, and 90/90 for exam 2. i didn't expect a 50 either, thought i dropped a couple of marks on exam 2 but looks like i got some kind examiners :D
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damn that is a beastt exam 1 score... my mate talked to neville box at his lecture and apparently the highest mark for that exam was 87.5 :O. i got 85.5 for exam 1, 199/200 scaled sac marks, and 90/90 for exam 2. i didn't expect a 50 either, thought i dropped a couple of marks on exam 2 but looks like i got some kind examiners :D
90/90?! Wow, great job! That's amazing!!
I predict a very high ATAR for you next this year. :)
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90/90?! Wow, great job! That's amazing!!
I predict a very high ATAR for you next this year. :)
wow full marks on Accounting Exam 2...
I could only manage 89/90 2 years ago.. D:
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90/90?! Wow, great job! That's amazing!!
I predict a very high ATAR for you next this year. :)
thanks!
doubt my atar will be as high as yours though..
wow full marks on Accounting Exam 2...
I could only manage 89/90 2 years ago.. D:
this exam was way easier than the 2011 one, so i think you win ;D
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I sent mine off a few days before Christmas and its still not here. Should I contact them or is that normal because there was probably low activity at their end over Christmas and new year?
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I sent mine off a few days before Christmas and its still not here. Should I contact them or is that normal because there was probably low activity at their end over Christmas and new year?
same for me
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I sent mine off a few days before Christmas and its still not here. Should I contact them or is that normal because there was probably low activity at their end over Christmas and new year?
From memory I did that last year for Revs and got it back probably the week after this week.
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I sent mine off a few days before Christmas and its still not here. Should I contact them or is that normal because there was probably low activity at their end over Christmas and new year?
I sent my form in on December 21st and the stuff arrived today.
If anyone cares, the A+ cutoff for French was 343/400 (2011's was 336; 2010 was 343 also)
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I sent mine off a few days before Christmas and its still not here. Should I contact them or is that normal because there was probably low activity at their end over Christmas and new year?
Might still be slight delays in postage? I think you should wait a bit longer since it also depends on the number of applications VCAA received.
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Got them. A+ for German was 343/400.
I got 100% on the oral and 135/150 on the written. Stuffed up the written and I knew it as soon as I left. poo.
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Ok I finally received my statement of SS for psych!
Exam 1: 157/180
SACS: 197/200
Exam 2: 166/180
What's the standardised scores and weighted x standardised scores all about?
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WELL DONE. THATS AMAZING! CONGRATS!
I originally got a 45 , but when sharing the statement of marks with AN, someone else got the a few marks off higher than mine , and they received a higher study score. So i contacted VCAA and they said they were looking at it. I got an email yesterday , saying that there was a mistake, blah blah , and they were entirely responsible for the mistake and I had received a 46 instead , study score. :) Although it doesn't make a difference as such , only one point .
So warning, if you think your study score , is not what you deserve, get a SoM and ask them why, unlike me , if it wasnt for atar notes , i would have ignored it completely !
THANKS ATAR NOTES !!!!!! :) you guys saved my study score. ! :)
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OH WHOA, that's really good! Congratulations :D
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Wow, lucky you spotted that. I had a friend who got their atar in 2010 and it said 87, but his study scores didn't match. Then they changed it to 91, then a few days later they realised it was 96.something. I mean, vcaa have had long enough to get it right! Haha.
English A+ was 47/60 btw. I got 3 9s from one assessor and 3 8s from the other. So annoying! Haha.
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A+ cutoff for software development was 154/200
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To those interested, A+ cut off for Mathematical Methods (2012) for Exam 1 was 36.5/40. For Exam 2 it was 61.5/80 which suggests that it was quite a difficult exam, seeing as you could lose 18.5 marks and still achieve an A+.
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Can someone explain to me the difference between a Statement of Study Score and an SoM? I'm considering getting it.
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Can someone explain to me the difference between a Statement of Study Score and an SoM? I'm considering getting it.
SoSS- shows your number result for the 3 GAs and also the mean and standard deviation for each GA.
SoM- shows what you scored on each question of the exam and the range of scores for the grade you got
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I'm really confused with my chem unit 4 exam result. The a+ cut off was 60.5/72..and I believe after very harshly marking myself that I got about 57-62/72 for the chem exam and yet received a B+...it seems as though the A cut off would have been around 55/72 I think..do you think I should order a statement of something...and which statement do you think would be of most relevance to help me out. btw I received a ss of 34 for chem with the following grades...A B+ B+... :-\
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Yellow_, you sir are a legend!!
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So I got my som for biology today but there was a bit of confusion... Well on the front page it said I got 48/50 for short answer, but on the back page it summarized with a final score of 84/100 for short answer (ie 42/50).
Has this happened to anyone before? Should I contact VCAA?
Thanks!
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Hey Yellow, well done. Did you get the same from each assessor marking each piece? What mark did you get out of 60?
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So I got my som for biology today but there was a bit of confusion... Well on the front page it said I got 48/50 for short answer, but on the back page it summarized with a final score of 84/100 for short answer (ie 42/50).
Has this happened to anyone before? Should I contact VCAA?
Thanks!
The mark on the front page is for the multiple choice. You would've got 24/25, and then they doubled that to give you 48/50
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Wow, lucky you spotted that. I had a friend who got their atar in 2010 and it said 87, but his study scores didn't match. Then they changed it to 91, then a few days later they realised it was 96.something. I mean, vcaa have had long enough to get it right! Haha.
English A+ was 47/60 btw. I got 3 9s from one assessor and 3 8s from the other. So annoying! Haha.
You would've had six assessors for English :P
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The mark on the front page is for the multiple choice. You would've got 24/25, and then they doubled that to give you 48/50
oh wow.. feel so stupid now! haha cheers mate for clearing that up :D
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Random Cutoffs:
History: Revolutions: The A+ grade range is 121 to 160.
Italian Written: The A+ grade range is 266 to 400
Italian Oral: No mention on the statement
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The A+ range for Further Exam 2 was 105 to 120 (52.5 to 60).
Turns out I lost half a mark on one of my worded answers. Not sure if it's worth fighting for (don't know what my chances are of winning, either), just for the shot at a Premier's.
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A+ cutoff for Business was 101/130...little lower than normal but nothing suprising.
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Ok with regards to my end of year chemistry exam grade I'm having quite strong doubts that I actually received a B+(which means I lost about 16-20 marks on the exam) do you guys think I should order an SOM just in case they did give me an incorrect grade or?
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You have got nothing to losr only $9.35
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Okay cool..I hope that the grade was wrong because that mean a 0.5 boost to my atar haha :D
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Chemistry
SACs
Raw: 192
Moderated: 199
Unit 3 Exam: 70/75 (67.5 cut)
Unit 4 Exam: 68/72 (60.5 cut)
SS: 48
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Well done ssNake..hehe I wish I got those scores for Chem, do you know what the cut off for a b+ was?
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Sorry, I don't =/
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The A+ range for Further Exam 2 was 105 to 120 (52.5 to 60).
Turns out I lost half a mark on one of my worded answers. Not sure if it's worth fighting for (don't know what my chances are of winning, either), just for the shot at a Premier's.
Hmm.. that's a tad higher than usual. I wonder what the cut-off was for Exam 1. I did think this year's assessments were slightly easier than some of the other recent ones.
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I somehow lost 10 marks in Chemistry exam 2... this is very weird as I thought I would've lost 6-8 at the absolute max. Is it worth getting it checked?
71/75 and 62/72 + 190/200 sacs for a 42?
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I somehow lost 10 marks in Chemistry exam 2... this is very weird as I thought I would've lost 6-8 at the absolute max. Is it worth getting it checked?
71/75 and 62/72 + 190/200 sacs for a 42?
You could, but unfortunately there's not much chance they'll remark it :-\
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I just found out in 2011, for English my brother got 3 A's and a study score of 29. That year basically everybody got a 29 for English at the school, even the ones barely passing sacs... Is it possible to actually get a 29 with 3 A's?
He didn't contact the vcaa about it as we were overseas and he met the prerequisites for his course
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I just found out in 2011, for English my brother got 3 A's and a study score of 29. That year basically everybody got a 29 for English at the school, even the ones barely passing sacs... Is it possible to actually get a 29 with 3 A's?
He didn't contact the vcaa about it as we were overseas and he met the prerequisites for his course
Never heard of that before ???
According to Mao's study score calculator he should've scored between 36 and 38
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ok, I got my SoM for ESL :)
TR 20/20 --> 160/160 [Interpreter of Maladies] yay!
Context 16/20 --> 96/120 [I&B] really good score considering that I didn't finish the piece and made up half of the evidence
C1 13/20 --> 39/60 :(
C2 14/20 --> 42/60 :(, didn't thought they'd take off soo much for neglecting visuals
Final Score 337/400
A+ Cut-off 293/400