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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: treystorm on January 01, 2013, 10:11:03 am
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hey guys,
so eversince my 3&4 exams in November i've had absolutely no life.
i've fully completed the syllabus of -
-Chemistry
-Biology
-Further Maths
-Physics
-English (read all my books and their text guides and some prac essays).
what should i do for the rest of the year during class time other than prepare for SAC's etc?
Besides these i also do 2 hours of UMAT everyday.
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I'd recommend that you'll chill out a bit. It's great you've done so much prep all ready for the coming year, but take summer to just relax because the last thing you'd want is to burn yourself out during year 12!
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hey guys,
so eversince my 3&4 exams in November i've had absolutely no life.
i've fully completed the syllabus of -
-Chemistry
-Biology
-Further Maths
-Physics
-English (read all my books and their text guides and some prac essays).
what should i do for the rest of the year during class time other than prepare for SAC's etc?
Besides these i also do 2 hours of UMAT everyday.
go outside!
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Stop doing work and go outside
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Depends how well you learnt everything. I'm guessing completing the syllabus means just having gone through the textbook and done the questions etc.
There's probably the danger of getting complacent with what you've done and taking it too easy next year because you've "done the work", so be wary of that too.
It also depends on how in depth you actually went, I'm guessing to have finished all that in such a short time frame, you didn't sit back with concepts and explore them really deeply and really understand everything inside out.
But yeah, take a break and go outside. Even when school starts, you really do need to maintain some kind of balance between studying and 'having a life'.
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Laser's right. Even if you think you have, you haven't fully completed the syllabus.
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i was considering writing my own notes for CHEM and PHYSICS in the coming few days and doing an extra physics 3&4 book to get more exposure.
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i was considering writing my own notes for CHEM and PHYSICS in the coming few days and doing an extra physics 3&4 book to get more exposure.
Well if your going to do something it my as well be this
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-Wreck-it Ralph
-Life of Pi
-Le Miserables
-Pitch Perfect
-The Hobbit
-Skyfall
-Jack Reacher
^ WHY AREN'T YOU OUT WATCHING MOVIES WITH FRIENDS.
no but seriously, enjoy your holidays before a marathon-of-a-year
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Was one of your 3/4 subjects methods by any chance?
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You sir are incredibly hard working and need to salute you, but well know have a beer with some friends.
When you're back from the bar:
English:
write up some essays and post them into the English work submission and marking board.
Chemistry:
Make your own firework.
Watch some KhanAcademy videos about the topics, since you shouldn't stress to much, but I know you want to do work and so you can use KhanAcademy to 'chill out'.
Physics:
same as above
Bio:
Read your textbook and maybe read another one.
Further:
Start practice exams.
FurtherMath is incredibly boring and I hated studying for it so much, particularly doing prac exams, so spreading them out over the whole year would've been much nicer.
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Was one of your 3/4 subjects methods by any chance?
yes its a 3&4 in 2013 but I'm still doing the book for it at home.
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You sir are incredibly hard working and need to salute you, but well know have a beer with some friends.
When you're back from the bar:
English:
write up some essays and post them into the English work submission and marking board.
Chemistry:
Make your own firework.
Watch some KhanAcademy videos about the topics, since you shouldn't stress to much, but I know you want to do work and so you can use KhanAcademy to 'chill out'.
Physics:
same as above
Bio:
Read your textbook and maybe read another one.
Further:
Start practice exams.
FurtherMath is incredibly boring and I hated studying for it so much, particularly doing prac exams, so spreading them out over the whole year would've been much nicer.
thank you for the suggestions FlorianK. As much as i would like to chill out there is just too much pressure from my family.
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thank you for the suggestions FlorianK. As much as i would like to chill out there is just too much pressure from my family.
just a random idea
is that you could get a disk a have say your physics text book on the computer
so it looks like your studying by when your family leave the room you can play games or talk to people
I used to do that
lol jokes im doing that right now
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thank you for the suggestions FlorianK. As much as i would like to chill out there is just too much pressure from my family.
That sounds bad. How are you dealing with the pressure? Do you find that it's too much sometimes?
My parents pressure me too, but in more of a "study in your room" way. So, sometimes I just pretend to study. (Novel hidden in my textbook etc etc.) Though at the same time, I do get my work done etc.
Do whatever you need to do to take a break and relax - even if it means going against your parents/family's wishes sometimes.
And FlorianK is right - The khanacademy videos are a more chillaxed way of learning. (I zone out sometimes, then replay the video)
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just a random idea
is that you could get a disk a have say your physics text book on the computer
so it looks like your studying by when your family leave the room you can play games or talk to people
I used to do that
lol jokes im doing that right now
LOL SAME.
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Chemistry:
Make your own firework.
LOL
(but seriously don't you'll probably blow your own face off)
To any 2013ers reading this - PLEASE do not panic, you most definitely do not need to do any of this to get a high ATAR score
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LOL
(but seriously don't you'll probably blow your own face off)
To any 2013ers reading this - PLEASE do not panic, you most definitely do not need to do any of this to get a high ATAR score
I'd hope not. This is just crazy. Part of me is hoping that it's a joke.
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That sounds bad. How are you dealing with the pressure? Do you find that it's too much sometimes?
My parents pressure me too, but in more of a "study in your room" way. So, sometimes I just pretend to study. (Novel hidden in my textbook etc etc.) Though at the same time, I do get my work done etc.
Do whatever you need to do to take a break and relax - even if it means going against your parents/family's wishes sometimes.
And FlorianK is right - The khanacademy videos are a more chillaxed way of learning. (I zone out sometimes, then replay the video)
dont ask about the pressure man. but i'll surely check the Khanacademy out. thank you.
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I'd hope not. This is just crazy. Part of me is hoping that it's a joke.
it is not a joke. and as u might have already read im also doing methods 3&4.
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it is not a joke. and as u might have already read im also doing methods 3&4.
wait your year 11
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dont ask about the pressure man. but i'll surely check the Khanacademy out. thank you.
:/
good luck with everything then. christ.
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Wait are you in Year 11 this year? Or are you Yr 12....
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Well if you keep working like this for the next couple of months, you're going to burn out... Not kidding.
Are you sure you haven't rushed through the syllabus? The course for each subject is designed to be completed in 7-8 months, instead of two...especially for the Science subjects.
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hey guys,
so eversince my 3&4 exams in November i've had absolutely no life.
i've fully completed the syllabus of -
-Chemistry
-Biology
-Further Maths
-Physics
-English (read all my books and their text guides and some prac essays).
what should i do for the rest of the year during class time other than prepare for SAC's etc?
Besides these i also do 2 hours of UMAT everyday.
Before i can advise you, i would like to see your ATAR Notes test results :)
Evangelion Zeta will test you in English.
Thushan will test you in Chemistry.
Bazza16 will test you in Biology.
We'll take it from there.
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thank you for the suggestions FlorianK. As much as i would like to chill out there is just too much pressure from my family.
ok, well I guess you won't take our advise to do nothing until the school starts, but you definetly should do some sort of relaxing stuff. Because now you are definetly in stress and that releases adrenalin, which makes your body release cortisol and this is bad in terms of long-time exposure.
However, long-term exposure to cortisol damages cells in the hippocampus this damage results in impaired learning. Furthermore, it has been shown that cortisol inhibits memory retrieval of already stored information
However for all the other students reading this. The information above is not an excuse not to study!
Anyways, I don't really understand why you really need to study anymore until school starts. You are already 8 month ahead of most of the state and you can start practice exams later on in the year.
However when you're finished with the methods course make sure to do the below, cause it is actually fun:
(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/298616_10152154677310026_2121685098_n.jpg)
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DON'T do any more study. Close the books right now.
You will regret this later. This kind of pressure leads of you breaking down right, when exams are around the corner. Take heed. Close da book.
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the important question is: do you enjoy this much 'study'? If you enjoy it, then continue. However if you're being forced to study and do not enjoy it then stop immediately, it will do you no good if you're doing something you don't enjoy. Essentially just do the things that interests you.
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Stop studying so hard. I advise all of my students to not touch study and rest up in december. I didn't start studying till midway through January and I did fine (i left it a bit late though, i advise starting around now, but if you're already started, have a break!)
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This is a really random query treystorm, are you curry by any chance? Cos I totally understand curry pressure :P but seriously.. . as repeatedly stated above, CHILLAX MATE!!
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Stop studying so hard. I advise all of my students to not touch study and rest up in december. I didn't start studying till midway through January and I did fine (i left it a bit late though, i advise starting around now, but if you're already started, have a break!)
take his advice since you can't beat his atar-score
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Stop studying so hard. I advise all of my students to not touch study and rest up in december. I didn't start studying till midway through January and I did fine (i left it a bit late though, i advise starting around now, but if you're already started, have a break!)
Bit of an understatement...
But yeah, just make sure that you're relaxed. I don't think you'd have to necessarily stop if you like it, just cut back a bit. Also watch youtube videos on your subjects if you feel you have to do something (not necessarily stuff in the course, don't "study" them) to give you a broader perspective of the subjects and develop a greater interest.
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This is a really random query treystorm, are you curry by any chance? Cos I totally understand curry pressure :P but seriously.. . as repeatedly stated above, CHILLAX MATE!!
not being rude but dude seriously have some respect for Indians. don't use words such as "curry".
btw i am indian
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take his advice since you can't beat his atar-score
i agree but he's probably much more talented than i am. my main weakness is english which is a severe bad luck for me. DAMN!
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i agree but he's probably much more talented than i am. my main weakness is english which is a severe bad luck for me. DAMN!
Post one of your essays here: English work submission and marking and we'll see if that is true
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not being rude but dude seriously have some respect for Indians. don't use words such as "curry".
btw i am indian
How's it disrespectful? It's a common term we use all the time for Indians and Lankans.. It's just for fun...
Again, echoing other peoples sentiments, even if you have "completed" the syllabus, I really have doubts with the quality and depth of your knowledge. As stated before, these courses are designed for a duration of 8 months for a good reason. If you studied all of it in 2 months, I'd be worried about how well everything has gone into your head.
I think you'll also get sick of the study very soon if you keep up this pace. Slow down, relax and pace yourself comfortably.
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Post one of your essays here: English work submission and marking and we'll see if that is true
i just posted it please check it out! :) :D ;D
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the important question is: do you enjoy this much 'study'? If you enjoy it, then continue. However if you're being forced to study and do not enjoy it then stop immediately, it will do you no good if you're doing something you don't enjoy. Essentially just do the things that interests you.
You speak my language, TT
There is no such thing as too much study in your VCE year.
As long as you are working productively, maintaining motivation and making progress, you keep going.
If you get tired, you rest and recharge.
As for OP's claim that he has completed VCE before Xmas .... Let's just say I am still processing this information :)
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How's it disrespectful? It's a common term we use all the time for Indians and Lankans.. It's just for fun...
Again, echoing other peoples sentiments, even if you have "completed" the syllabus, I really have doubts with the quality and depth of your knowledge. As stated before, these courses are designed for a duration of 8 months for a good reason. If you studied all of it in 2 months, I'd be worried about how well everything has gone into your head.
I think you'll also get sick of the study very soon if you keep up this pace. Slow down, relax and pace yourself comfortably.
Apart from Physics lol
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should it be shorter?
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Should be longer I guess
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VCE is designed for all types of students from the weakest and least-motivated to the strongest and most motivated students. In order for the weak students to get more than 10% in the exam the course is comparibly (in terms of other countries) easier.
In terms of knowing the stuff already. I reckon he knows the stuff as well as most do after finishing the entire course. Everyone realises he/she doesn't really know/can apply stuff that is coming up in a question in their first prac exam.
I hate how people kinda doubt the OP.
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I hate how people kinda doubt the OP.
I'm not really doubting him, just pointing out that having completed the syllabus doesn't necessarily mean that's the end of the work to be done, especially when it comes to having a good grasp of all the concepts etc. etc.
And also that either continuing at a high pace means that he could end up burning out or maybe deciding to take things too easy during class time is something that he should take into consideration too.
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Apart from Physics lol
Hahah :P
I hate how people kinda doubt the OP.
This
I'm not really doubting him, just pointing out that having completed the syllabus doesn't necessarily mean that's the end of the work to be done, especially when it comes to having a good grasp of all the concepts etc. etc.
And also that either continuing at a high pace means that he could end up burning out or maybe deciding to take things too easy during class time is something that he should take into consideration too.
I'm speaking from experience and from others experiences as well. I never will say I'm right, but if the OP does indeed know the syllabus back to front as well as he possibly can, I stand very happily corrected and pleasantly surprised :)
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i just posted it please check it out! :) :D ;D
There is plenty of improvement left in English.
Your 'wordiness' overshadows your ideas.
Some of the 'big words' don't convey your intended meaning. I got the impression you were playing lottery with a thesaurus.
In short, simplify the language, strengthen the content.
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I'm not really doubting him, just pointing out that having completed the syllabus doesn't necessarily mean that's the end of the work to be done, especially when it comes to having a good grasp of all the concepts etc. etc.
And also that either continuing at a high pace means that he could end up burning out or maybe deciding to take things too easy during class time is something that he should take into consideration too.
I see what you mean, but if you are really motivated, you gotta keep going.
At the end of the day, what really separates people in VCE?
It is not intelligence. It is motivation and hard work.
Your typical high achiever is a kid of normal intelligence who is really motivated.
Prodigies like Thor Taylor are one in a million.
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I see what you mean, but if you are really motivated, you gotta keep going.
At the end of the day, what really separates people in VCE?
It is not intelligence. It is motivation and hard work.
Your typical high achiever is a kid of normal intelligence who is really motivated.
Prodigies like Thor Taylor are one in a million.
Give the kid a break.
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There is plenty of improvement left in English.
Your 'wordiness' overshadows your ideas.
Some of the 'big words' don't convey your intended meaning. I got the impression you were playing lottery with a thesaurus.
In short, simplify the language, strengthen the content.
I'm not sure if it affects his piece as much to be honest but, I am very guilty of this a lot of the time. I just use unnecessary big words to make it sound like I'm smarter or what ever. Those complicated words have further meanings to the words they're linked to and I fail to realise that many times. Generally, using them in place of a "simpler" word is either unnecessary or ruins the flow of the sentence, which brings your marks down for coherence.
Having said that, I think sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But when it's done several times in a small area of text, the teacher may mark you down because of what I said above.
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I'm not sure if it affects his piece as much to be honest but, I am very guilty of this a lot of the time. I just use unnecessary big words to make it sound like I'm smarter or what ever. Those complicated words have further meanings to the words they're linked to and I fail to realise that many times. Generally, using them in place of a "simpler" word is either unnecessary or ruins the flow of the sentence, which brings your marks down for coherence.
Having said that, I think sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But when it's done several times in a small area of text, the teacher may mark you down because of what I said above.
Hehe ... That's the problem with 'big words'.
When they work, they work beautifully.
But when they don't ...
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Hehe ... That's the problem with 'big words'.
When they work, they work beautifully.
But when they don't ...
But when they don't ... It wreaks of desperation. (well, mine did) haha.
It's amazing how much reading aloud (or under your breathe) can help, you can pick up the words that don't work with ease. My grades improved by a whole grade and half. I'll continue with it.
You just have to to make sure it flows..
I'm not sure if it's the right way to go about it, but I always question myself (during practices only), why a simpler word won't work and if I can't come up with a reason, I use the simpler word.
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For instance, I don't think I could use the word 'convolution' with much confidence in an essay.
Part of the problem is that when I see the word 'convolution' I immediately think of Laplace Transforms and Fourier Transforms :)
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For instance, I don't think I could use the word 'convolution' with much confidence in an essay.
Part of the problem is that when I see the word 'convolution' I immediately think of Laplace Transforms and Fourier Transforms :)
Haha okay!
I think we've derailed this thread. We better stop!
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Give the kid a break.
What did I do now?
I thought I was on the kid's side :)
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I know a friend who actually enjoyed studying and had no problem studying 13 hours a day. If you are like that then i'd recommend you do the following:
Chemistry: Make notes of every topic and understand it inside out. When you do that i'd recommend working on checkpoints, Thushans famous ATARNOTES studyguide, and some neap smart study. If you realize that everything is easy in those books then move onto trial exams. Don't try do as many as you can (you have a lot of time for that during the year) but instead try look at the perspectives you get in the solutions and see how you can perfect your answers.
Biology: Make notes of the topics. Note that in biology you need to use various sources. I'd personally recommend listening to Douchy's biology podcast. And use BIOL notes unit 3 and unit 4. Watch some youtube if you feel you don't understand something.
Further: Syllabus is nice and easy just finish it then do as many trial exams as you can efficiently.
English: write lots of essays with different prompts.
Of course i'm assuming you want to study and enjoy doing it and you don't think you will burn out during the year if you get a headstart now.
Make sure that you don't become complacent anytime during the year especially before exams.
GOOD LUCK AND HAPPY STUDYING!
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If you don't like people using curry on AN, you're gonna have a baaaaddddd timmme.
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listen this post is not to address the bad racial state of this forum. Instead it is to advise me on what i should do next as the title suggests.
If you don't like people using curry on AN, you're gonna have a baaaaddddd timmme.
no more of such nonsense on this post please.
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listen this post is not to address the bad racial state of this forum. Instead it is to advise me on what i should do next as the title suggests.
no more of such nonsense on this post please.
I respect that you're trying to keep your topic on task, however when you criticise the forum, you can't expect people to ignore it. You'll find that when people like me post, we can generally derail the topic. :P hahaha
To address the apparent "bad racial state" of this forum. I don't know how long you've been in this forum to come to that conclusion, but regardless, I think it's very ill informed. For the most part, people here get along with others really really well. It's awesome seeing that! Especially at the meet that happened yesterday too! :)
I've been here for only 6 months so far and I've never even once, come across any form of racism towards me. Everyone talks in good nature, we make fun of each other every now and then, that's what we do when we're comfortable with others and know them well. Also, the word "curry" should not be viewed as racist at all. It's a term used by a lot, and I'm talking A LOT, of people use to describe people that are Indian or Lankan.... Or both :P It's used all the time by my friends, a few of whom are also curry. I don't know if you don't know of this or not.
What I'm trying to say is that people are not going to change for you. It's selfish and unrealistic to expect that. You're going to have to live with words that you don't like being said, because the majority of people may find it okay to use. I may find words offensive, but I don't bother telling people all the time, they aren't going to change just because of me. But if it's in good nature, like your friend saying "this faggot" or something like that (please don't tell me I'm the only one who gets called that :P), then it's totally fine with me. At worst, replace the word with something else. It's something you will have to to do. From now on, if you see the word curry in this context, you think, Indians and Lankans. :D
And look, you are entitled to your own opinion and I respect it but... I've given you what I think. ( I hope people, even you, agree with me though) and sorry if there are grammar errors.
Sorry to derail your topic once again, but I think criticism should always be addressed. As you did.
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Seriously this guy can't be derailing his own topic just to complain about the term curry LOL
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He wasn't the one derailing it but the derail will stop now -.-
Anyway, I find the whole "curry" thing dumb and trite but if people want to use it, just ignore them.