The Elizabeth Blackburn School of Sciences is a branch of The University High School that has been designed to cater and engage young people in years 11 and 12 who have a passion and the potential for success in the fields of the sciences. The Elizabeth Blackburn School of Sciences has been designed in partnership with DEECD, University of Melbourne and Bio21 and will expose students to the latest innovations and excellence in the teaching of contemporary science and mathematics.
The Elizabeth Blackburn School of Sciences does have an admission capacity of one hundred year 11 and one hundred year 12 students.
A centralised selection process (entry assessment) is used to identify the prospective students and these results will allow placement offers to select students.
I think I want a friggen select school for humanities students! LOLHmm, as far as I know there's VCA SS for dance/music http://www.vcass.vic.edu.au/curriculum/academic/
It's interesting they named it after Elizabeth Blackburn, one of the houses at JMSS is "Blackburn"
She used to go to UHS :)
I'm guessing it opens in 2014? Can't find much information on the site
Yeah, I couldn't find the year on the site, but on the newsletter I got it says 2014 :)2014 and for Year 11's and 12's... oh gosh :S
And do you have to take a test to get in?
QuoteA centralised selection process (entry assessment) is used to identify the prospective students and these results will allow placement offers to select students.
HAHAHA pi I go to uni high!
This is embarrassing but, I didn't even know about this school until you just posted it and I GO TO UNI HIGH LOL
Off topic: But pi when did you leave uni high to move to melbourne high?
Haha!
I was in the accelerated program for yr7-8 and moved to MHS for yr9 (so left at the end of 2007) :) Pretty awesome place and two years I'll never forget! So many great memories of that place :)
Only thing I couldn't stand was both Latin and German in yr8 haha, so bad :P
I think I want a friggen select school for humanities students! LOL
Another Selective School..
Turning into Sydney
Is it exclusively for Uni High students?
I think so
I don't understand why there is something called "University High School". Is it meant to be a high school or a university?
Ok, so my history of my school isn't perfect but I think it goes something like this:
-the school was first a school where university students who would want to become teachers in the future, be allowed to teach students. So kind of like being those student teachers which observe the real teachers, except at uni high they actually teach. I'm not sure whether the teachers were from Uom or not.
-so they decided since it was a school that university students could teach in, which was for high school students, they called it "The University High School"
It is a high school btw :P
Hope that clears it up a bit :)
With enrollments in STEM degrees going down... Of course, humanities are important, but with the enrolments in Law, Arts and Comm (to a degree) degrees in universities being generally quite strong
Not trying to start a debate but you seem to assume thats a bad thing.
It could just be a supply and demand thing. I remember reading somewhere that ~50% of science students end up not working in science. It just stands to reason, the cohort for Monash Bsc (not even their other specialised science degrees) is ~1000. UoM is likely similar if not higher. There are plenty of other universities in Victoria as well. We simply graduate way more science students than there are jobs for them. There's no way that Victoria has a burning need for thousands of new scientists every year.
I dont think it should be (largely anyway) based on the number of enrollments when there would be many other things to consider when making a decision like that. The purpose of building a specialised school isn't really to boost enrollments. A specialised humanities school or whatever else might be a good idea for many other reasons outside boosting enrollments.
I'm not in favour of these schools. Let me list my reasons.I'm not sure. The education inequality in Australia is a bit different to what you're describing.
One of the reasons I migrated to Australia was the inequality of education in Turkey. High schools are classified as several groups in Turkey like Science, Teaching, Normal and Technical... The difference in terms of education and atmosphere is huge, especially between normal and science high school...all students sit for an exam in y8 that will mostly determine their lives because there is not much probability of getting into uni from normal school...Australia might be heading that way if they don't control the number of these schools...
I'm not in favour of these schools. Let me list my reasons.
One of the reasons I migrated to Australia was the inequality of education in Turkey. High schools are classified as several groups in Turkey like Science, Teaching, Normal and Technical... The difference in terms of education and atmosphere is huge, especially between normal and science high school...all students sit for an exam in y8 that will mostly determine their lives because there is not much probability of getting into uni from normal school...Australia might be heading that way if they don't control the number of these schools...
I'm not in favour of these schools. Let me list my reasons.select entry high schools here i think are needed in alot of ways
One of the reasons I migrated to Australia was the inequality of education in Turkey. High schools are classified as several groups in Turkey like Science, Teaching, Normal and Technical... The difference in terms of education and atmosphere is huge, especially between normal and science high school...all students sit for an exam in y8 that will mostly determine their lives because there is not much probability of getting into uni from normal school...Australia might be heading that way if they don't control the number of these schools...
Had a look at this school website. Looks pretty damned solid. Particularly like the focus on research. If the program is carried out correctly, this could take off really nicely.Yeah I like how they've emphasised on the researching but their facilities seem to be on par with JMSS (school-wise) although we get given laptops whilst they have to bring their own devices... though now that I realise it but we're going to have some fierce rivalry against EBSS as the years go by LOL :O
select entry high schools here i think are needed in alot of ways
tonnes of students could be really really smart, but can't afford any good schools, and their local high school could be deer park high or sunshine college or something, the weak cohort + bad environment would be detrimental to their education
select entry schools provide that environment that really promotes learning, and gets rid of nearly ALL of the distractions at other schools
at my school there have been 0 fights, barely any drama ever, everyone studies, classes are NEVER disruptive (shocking i know, but seriously)
i know myself, if i hadnt gotten into a select entry high school - i would not have gotten over being called a nerd and being bullied and stuff and I wouldnt be doing as well as i am
and it is great now that there are more specialized versions of these schools JMSS is going to create some great scientists, and im sure elizabeth blackburn will do the same
I have no problems if the number of these schools is kept limited..But if they don't control it, all these y8s or y9s will be competing for these schools..Due to limited number of available students these schools will be marginal I guess...So there will be inequality in education...This is my thought based on my experience...Otherwise I'm not against science schools
These selective schools are more or less just offering the VCE (or other state) curriculum, it's the same stuff that's taught at every other school
Sorry for necromancing but they just had their exam yesterday for the first intake of Year 11's next year. Apparently (according to my friends), the school 'will be better than JMSS' (according to their principal) *cough* and there were approximately 140 kids there at the exam.bit early to tell, but it certainly seems to have promise.
Sorry for necromancing but they just had their exam yesterday for the first intake of Year 11's next year. Apparently (according to my friends), the school 'will be better than JMSS' (according to their principal) *cough* and there were approximately 140 kids there at the exam.
I was recently administrated into this school for 2014, but I'm not sure if its going to be able to compete with JMSS at least for the first year. The standard of being accepted into EBBS was probably sitting at an 80%, as there was roughly <140 students who took place in the examination, with 20 guaranteed positions for those who were already attending at Uni High. The problem that arises so far is if the school would actually work, as I averaged with only 2 superior, as well as being only an average-ish student. Hopefully this school won't turn out as a disaster like Suzanne Cory. :S
Apparently (according to my friends), the school 'will be better than JMSS' (according to their principal) *cough* and there were approximately 140 kids there at the exam.I dont want to turn this thread into a debate on which schools better , but i do believe Jmss provides much more oppurtinity than EBSS , especially the fact that JMSS kids start a year earlier , so they don't jump into VCE straight away . But nevertheless EBSS is a great school well done to everyone who made it in .
Why don't they have select entry schools for humanities based subjects? Science people get all the fun.Thats a good idea , but a lot of regular schools teach humanities well , its not really the same story with science thought .
a good idea , but a lot of regular schools teach humanities well , its not really the same story with science thought .I'm pretty sure it's mandatory to learn general science from year 7-10?
I dont want to turn this thread into a debate on which schools better , but i do believe Jmss provides much more oppurtinity than EBSS , especially the fact that JMSS kids start a year earlier , so they don't jump into VCE straight away .
I'm pretty sure it's mandatory to learn general science from year 7-10?Haha yeah but some schools just cant afford the science facilities which JMSS or other selective schools have .
It's not really a jump if they were in yr10 the year before. I assumed everyone went from Year 10 -> Year 11 unless they do it differently at JMSS?Hmmm ... I see where your coming from , but there will be diverse contrast from starting vce or continuing it for some people , at a completely different school . But nevertheless from what i heard from people its a good school , and this shouldn't be a problem for most people .
I dont want to turn this thread into a debate on which schools better , but i do believe Jmss provides much more oppurtinity than EBSS , especially the fact that JMSS kids start a year earlier , so they don't jump into VCE straight away .The only thing I can see JMSS having more opportunity than EBSS is that it's more 'established' which have resulted in a number of different programs offered to the general student body. As the years go by we'll have more programs on offer adding onto the list of ones which we already offer. At this point in time nobody knows what EBSS have in store so yeah...
It's not really a jump if they were in yr10 the year before. I assumed everyone went from Year 10 -> Year 11 unless they do it differently at JMSS?No we go from Year 10 -> Year 11 unless you fail certain subjects/requirements in Year 10 in which you have to repeat (which is pretty standard in all schools I believe).
What's wrong? I find that you belong more when wearing school uniform (and JMSS uniform isn't even that bad LOL it's actually pretty good although the blazer as pi has mentioned on a number of times from memory LOL) and there'd always be the thought of having to pick out what you wear in the morning which can be a pain sometimes imo T_TSpoilerAnd i'm kinda jealous by the fact that you guys don't have to wear uniform
Although wearing uniform is painful (especially the blazer in summer ) . EBBS is a selective school wearing casual clothes make people perceive it as "inferior ". Even in America where there's no uniform in schools , selective school still wear uniforms their . I know im getting off topic here , but im just saying .
I beg to differ.thats it i want to go to macrobs ;) , does anyone know if its too late to try out ?
Mac.Rob allows their Year 12's to wear free dress for most of the year. No one sees them as an inferior bunch, rather they're still (usually) the toppers in the state.
Also, odd to have a blazer in the summer uniform. At MHS the blazer was not in the summer uniform and only had to be worn for events and assemblies.
there will be diverse contrast from starting vce or continuing it for some people , at a completely different school.This is definitely true, even at JMSS. You have to adjust to a whole new team of teachers, new school protocols, new students and an entirely new physical environment - that includes figuring out transport to and from school, and figuring out where things are within the actual school. Speaking as someone who's done this, it's not that conducive to learning, especially if you're doing a 3/4 in that same year.
What's wrong? I find that you belong more when wearing school uniform (and JMSS uniform isn't even that bad LOL it's actually pretty good although the blazer as pi has mentioned on a number of times from memory LOL)Our uniform is gorgeous but
Didn't somebody say EBSS is 7 - 12?Nah , EBSS starts in year 11 , but they have a school next door that starts in year 7 .
This is definitely true, even at JMSS. You have to adjust to a whole new team of teachers, new school protocols, new students and an entirely new physical environment - that includes figuring out transport to and from school, and figuring out where things are within the actual school. Speaking as someone who's done this, it's not that conducive to learning, especially if you're doing a 3/4 in that same year.I guess kids who get accepted into John Monash in year 11 feel the same way
Our uniform is gorgeous butHaha I guess maybe I went to a school where uniform was 'unappreciated' so I've just taken a liking towards JMSS' LOL
Does everyone from UHS , go to EBSS , i don't get how it works ?No not everyone from UHS goes to EBSS. People from outside of UHS can apply for EBSS and get accepted (I have two friends going there next year plus there's not enough space to fit all kids from UHS into EBSS [apparently the building of EBSS is in UHS' old car park]).
And i read in The Age somewhere that there building a school at Latrobe . Now they've got schools at monash (JMSS and Nossal) , Victoria University (Suzanne cory) and Melbourne University (EBSS),and soon one at Latrobe .
[apparently the building of EBSS is in UHS' old car park]
I doubt it given the car-park was underground beneath the oval and was used by the Royal Melbourne Hospital :PHmm very strange.... I remember my friend who left UHS last year for JMSS this year told me about it.. guess I'll have to as again >.<
No not everyone from UHS goes to EBSS. People from outside of UHS can apply for EBSS and get accepted (I have two friends going there next year plus there's not enough space to fit all kids from UHS into EBSS [apparently the building of EBSS is in UHS' old car park]).So its essentially an advance class for U.H.S kids , sorry im just curious .
It's just like any real selective school test except they test on different things compared to JMSS (if I recall what my friend said, they said that there were more English components compared to JMSS since they were entering Year 11).
So its essentially an advance class for U.H.S kids , sorry im just curious .
Hmm very strange.... I remember my friend who left UHS last year for JMSS this year told me about it.. guess I'll have to as again >.<