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Title: IPA?
Post by: LazyZombie on January 06, 2013, 08:11:08 pm
Its part of my holiday homework

ɪngreɪʃieɪt
I couldn't figure out what word it's supposed to be.
Also: tsaɪtgaɪst

Do we actually need to know the IPA?
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: alondouek on January 06, 2013, 08:21:08 pm
Not an Eng.Lang student, but

ɪngreɪʃieɪt = Ingratiate

tsaɪtgaɪst = Zeitgeist

Hope I helped :)
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: Professor Polonsky on January 06, 2013, 09:11:13 pm
Wikipedia is very good for IPA.
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: |ll|lll| on January 06, 2013, 09:12:04 pm
Its part of my holiday homework

Do we actually need to know the IPA?

LOL holiday homework changed... there was never IPA

You don't actually need to know the IPA per se, but its highly recommended that you know for the essay section. Also, refer tightly to the Macquarie dictionary for IPA.
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: aishuwa1995 on January 06, 2013, 09:21:30 pm
we had to learn the IPA in year 11 but it wasn't really used in year 12..as barcode said it can come in handy for essays.
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: b^3 on January 06, 2013, 09:23:40 pm
we had to learn the IPA in year 11 but it wasn't really used in year 12..as barcode said it can come in handy for essays.
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Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: LazyZombie on January 06, 2013, 09:24:00 pm
LOL holiday homework changed... there was never IPA

You don't actually need to know the IPA per se, but its highly recommended that you know for the essay section. Also, refer tightly to the Macquarie dictionary for IPA.
Yeah. I got the sounds right for those two words but I didn't know how to find them in the dictionary. Trial and error?

I suppose I'll find this out eventually but how would I need to use IPA in the essay section?

I just found all the useful information in my macquarie pocket dictionary (3rd edition). Thanks for pointing that out XD
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: aishuwa1995 on January 06, 2013, 09:36:12 pm
how would I need to use IPA in the essay section?

If you're giving an example for phonological variation for example in broad/general/cultivated varieties. I never used it in any of my essays in year 12 but I did in year 11. We had to write an essay about differences in American and British English. A great example was /təmɑtəʊ/ vs /təmeɪtoʊ/ :P
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: thushan on January 06, 2013, 10:26:21 pm
IPA is AWESOME in Englang essays!
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: teletubbies_95 on January 06, 2013, 10:35:45 pm
Yay! MacRobiaan doing eng lang.. you so kewl! :)

anyhow... i think you should learn the ipa , it improved my essay marks big time during unit 1/2 . Highly recommended ! :)

Good luck and pm me if you have any questions ! :)
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: thushan on January 06, 2013, 11:35:38 pm
Yay! MacRobiaan doing eng lang.. you so kewl! :)

anyhow... i think you should learn the ipa , it improved my essay marks big time during unit 1/2 . Highly recommended ! :)

Good luck and pm me if you have any questions ! :)

Another Macrobian doing Englang. I swear you guys get over half the 40+s in the state :P
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: AbominableMowman on January 08, 2013, 12:58:02 pm
So did you guys just learn it over the holidays, or during the year..
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: teletubbies_95 on January 08, 2013, 01:01:17 pm
Learnt it during the year ! and through the internet! :)
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: rebeckab on January 08, 2013, 04:38:59 pm
Our teacher told us just to memorise a few examples which we could use in our essays... I think I ended up using one speaking about ethnolects and one about the broad accent.
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: LazyZombie on January 08, 2013, 05:22:30 pm
Correction: My dictionary did have some useful stuff in it, but it doesn't use the IPA - it has its own pronunciation guide instead.

Should I get a dictionary that uses IPA? :P
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: teletubbies_95 on January 08, 2013, 05:31:59 pm
I think the Collins dictionary does ! :) Not entirely sure.
Title: Re: IPA?
Post by: ieatachoo on January 08, 2013, 10:39:26 pm
Hey guys,
 You don't need to know how to write the IPA in the 3/4 course. As long as you are able to recognise basic phonemes (sounds) then that's the extent to which you need to know it. It is good if you can use the IPA as phonological examples when writing essays though these should be memorised before you go into the exam anyway so you don't need to make it up on the spot. And also, in the 3/4 exam you are not allowed to bring in a dictionary unlike any other english subject..