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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: Bhootnike on January 20, 2013, 02:23:32 pm

Title: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Bhootnike on January 20, 2013, 02:23:32 pm
Hey, so basically my plan is to do BsC with intentions of getting into postgraduate MD course or DDS. I also wouldnt mind optometry, I'm into the health sciences really..
But I don't know if I'll manage a 65 or whatever gamsat score you need and the high GPA they require to get into that graduate entry pathway.
So as a backup, I am considering doing subjects in order to do Engineering - mechanical or biomedical... (not sure which one yet, have to decide depending upon employability chances and career options, would prefer bioeng though).

From research and people, i have to do the following subjects in first year.

Chem1  Bio1  Calc 2     ESD 1
Chem2  Bio2  Lin Alg    ESD2

assuming this is correct, 2 of my breadth subjects get taken up in first year.

then second year I have to do my MD prereqs - anatomy, physiology and biochem.. and then my engineering Prereqs, which I dont know much about.

Anat1  Biochem1  Phys1         eng subs
           Biochem2  Phys2         eng subs

then 3rd year,
dont know much what i have to do except the major.
which i have a feeling has to be something to do with engineering, not med.
cause i liked the sound of 'Microbiology, Infection and Immunology'

Question is whether these subject selections are actually possible, and if someone has done this pathway on AN, if they could advise me on what their subjects were in order to do engineering (mechanical or biomedical).

Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: thushan on January 20, 2013, 02:28:21 pm
Hey, so basically my plan is to do BsC with intentions of getting into postgraduate MD course or DDS. I also wouldnt mind optometry, I'm into the health sciences really..
But I don't know if I'll manage a 65 or whatever gamsat score you need and the high GPA they require to get into that graduate entry pathway.
So as a backup, I am considering doing subjects in order to do Engineering - mechanical or biomedical... (not sure which one yet, have to decide depending upon employability chances and career options, would prefer bioeng though).

From research and people, i have to do the following subjects in first year.

Chem1  Bio1  Calc 2     ESD 1
Chem2  Bio2  Lin Alg    ESD2

assuming this is correct, 2 of my breadth subjects get taken up in first year.

then second year I have to do my MD prereqs - anatomy, physiology and biochem.. and then my engineering Prereqs, which I dont know much about.

Anat1  Biochem1  Phys1         eng subs
           Biochem2  Phys2         eng subs

then 3rd year,
dont know much what i have to do except the major.
which i have a feeling has to be something to do with engineering, not med.
cause i liked the sound of 'Microbiology, Infection and Immunology'

Question is whether these subject selections are actually possible, and if someone has done this pathway on AN, if they could advise me on what their subjects were in order to do engineering (mechanical or biomedical).



Keep in mind that you don't have to do the ESD subjects to do grad engineering - this is only if you want to do grad engineering in 2 years after BSc. If you don't do ESD, I think you can still do Eng, but it will be 3 years.
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Bhootnike on January 20, 2013, 02:34:54 pm
Keep in mind that you don't have to do the ESD subjects to do grad engineering - this is only if you want to do grad engineering in 2 years after BSc. If you don't do ESD, I think you can still do Eng, but it will be 3 years.

Wow, okay, thanks bro, :) (p.s where are you these days? haha)

so i dont have to do esd 1 or 2 to do engineering subjects in second year?
because yeah, im pretty sure i have to do either a mechanical systems major in order to do mechanical eng, or bioengineering systems in order to do biomedical engineering.
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: stonecold on January 20, 2013, 02:42:18 pm
I know very little from the engineering side of things, but in second year you only have to do these three subs for MD prereqs:
-Principles of Human Structure
-Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
-Human Physiology

Should leave you with plenty of room for engineering subjects. :)
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Bhootnike on January 20, 2013, 02:48:56 pm
I know very little from the engineering side of things, but in second year you only have to do these three subs for MD prereqs:
-Principles of Human Structure
-Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
-Human Physiology

Should leave you with plenty of room for engineering subjects. :)

oo right so no 'techniques in biomolecular science' or 'research based physiology' ?
sweeeet haha

yeah it will I guess :)
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Peedles on January 20, 2013, 02:51:04 pm
oo right so no 'techniques in biomolecular science' or 'research based physiology' ?
sweeeet haha

yeah it will I guess :)


Yes, Techniques and Research based are not part of the MD, DDS pre-requisites.
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Bhootnike on January 20, 2013, 03:07:57 pm
wonderful haha.

Looking at this link - http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/graduate/master-eng-biomedical.html
it seems that I must do the bioengineering systems major in order to get into masters of engineering.
Damn, microbiology immunology and infection major looked cool haha.
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Russ on January 20, 2013, 03:10:02 pm
Like somebody said, that's if you want the 1 year credit to finish your MEng faster
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: thushan on January 20, 2013, 03:12:44 pm
wonderful haha.

Looking at this link - http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/graduate/master-eng-biomedical.html
it seems that I must do the bioengineering systems major in order to get into masters of engineering.
Damn, microbiology immunology and infection major looked cool haha.


Only if you want to do the 2-year engineering pathway.
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: stonecold on January 20, 2013, 03:13:55 pm

Damn, microbiology immunology and infection major looked cool haha.


You bet it does! :p
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Bhootnike on January 20, 2013, 03:18:05 pm
Like somebody said, that's if you want the 1 year credit to finish your MEng faster

Only if you want to do the 2-year engineering pathway.

Wait, so.
I can do that major in microbiology, immunology and infection, and still do engineering (3 years) ?
lol.
my day just got gooooooooooooooooooooooooood.

I thought TREX meant I dont have to do ESD1 or ESD2 in first year... :p


Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Pup on January 20, 2013, 05:09:16 pm
Wheres the breadth subjects ( subjects outside science/biomedical ) fit in. I thought you couldn't do science as a breadth.
And that at least 50 units have to be breadth.
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Bhootnike on January 21, 2013, 06:53:32 pm
Wheres the breadth subjects ( subjects outside science/biomedical ) fit in. I thought you couldn't do science as a breadth.
And that at least 50 units have to be breadth.

from the UoM website:
Breadth requirements for the Bachelor of Science are:

    A student can take up to 75 points (six subjects) of breadth study;
    A student must complete a minimum of 50 points (four subjects) of breadth study including at least 12.5 points at Level 2 or Level 3;
    A student may complete a maximum of 37.5 points of breadth (three subjects) at Level 1.

so in first year it'd look like:
chem 1     bio1    calc2    breadth
chem 2     bio2    lin alg   breadth

second year:
human physiology    Biochemistry and Molecular Biology       Principles of Human Structure                                                                                          breadth
 
Principles of               spare subject -- blah.. Experimental Microbiology                    spare subject... blah - Pharmacology: How Drugs Work              breadth
Microbiology and   
Immunology

with the above subjects,
i can major in either...
microbiology, immunity and infection
human structure and function
or
pharmacology

with 2 breadths available..



Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: spectroscopy on January 21, 2013, 07:03:08 pm
if
-Principles of Human Structure
-Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
-Human Physiology

are the med and dds prereqs, does that mean that you could do them as breadth in an arts or commerce degree? just curious
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Starlight on January 21, 2013, 08:21:36 pm
if
-Principles of Human Structure
-Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
-Human Physiology

are the med and dds prereqs, does that mean that you could do them as breadth in an arts or commerce degree? just curious

I'd think you would have to do the first year biology subjects  (2) and the first year chemistry subjects (2), so no idea how that could work as breadth units :S
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Inside Out on January 25, 2013, 11:36:13 am
Is esd a breath?
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: mark_alec on January 25, 2013, 11:43:42 am
No.
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Inside Out on January 25, 2013, 11:49:29 am
Why do we have to take up both calculus2 and linear algebra for engineering how annoying
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Nobby on January 25, 2013, 12:48:47 pm
Can you do 3rd year subjects in 2nd year?
Title: Re: Subjects for BsC to do grad. MD or DDS, with backup of engineering.
Post by: Starlight on January 25, 2013, 02:00:30 pm
Can you do 3rd year subjects in 2nd year?

Yes if you satisfy the relevant prerequisites. In that case, level 3 subjects don't necessarily correlate with being third year subjects.