Post by: Mao on June 08, 2009, 09:57:03 pm
First document: AOS1, AOS2, Structures + Further Electronics Questions And Solutions
Second document: Special Relativity Questions and Solutions
Errata:
Q10 Electronics, Rtherm = 500 ohms [from graph]. Rv = 1000 ohms.
Post by: mano91 on June 08, 2009, 10:13:58 pm
Post by: Mao on June 08, 2009, 10:17:58 pm
omg mao, i dont know if i wanna look at it!
that's entirely up to you :) I knew a few people who chose to avoid it [but they still did well anyways].
Post by: kurrymuncher on June 08, 2009, 10:22:51 pm
Post by: TonyHem on June 09, 2009, 09:07:15 am
No way am I looking at this. lol I couldnt sleep for days after looking at the solutions for methods last year.
Same for IT, so I'm gonna ignore this ;)
Post by: Damo17 on June 09, 2009, 09:31:37 am
No way am I looking at this. lol I couldnt sleep for days after looking at the solutions for methods last year.
Same for IT, so I'm gonna ignore this ;)
But your not going to forget the last page this time. :)
Post by: dekoyl on June 09, 2009, 01:59:46 pm
I doubt anyone wants mobile-phone photos of the exam.
Post by: KeyMan on June 09, 2009, 02:13:35 pm
Post by: enwiabe on June 09, 2009, 02:14:35 pm
Post by: KeyMan on June 09, 2009, 02:29:00 pm
Post by: KeyMan on June 09, 2009, 02:36:18 pm
Post by: krzysiek on June 09, 2009, 02:53:52 pm
Post by: KeyMan on June 09, 2009, 02:56:51 pm
Einstein - http://www.mediafire.com/?4dgmyjzek5j
Electronics - http://www.mediafire.com/?whmje0tmlwm
Structures - http://www.mediafire.com/?kt4cnzjjman
Enjoy :)
Post by: dekoyl on June 09, 2009, 02:58:30 pm
Thanks Keyman and Krzysiek
Post by: junkie1999 on June 09, 2009, 03:05:22 pm
I think I got all those, except for Q 8 I got 720N
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 03:07:39 pm
AOS1
1. 2.67
2. inelastic, initial kinetic energy does not equal final kinetic energy
3. 2560
4. Arrow to centre of circle
5. 500
6. 1.25
7. 600
8. 480
9. (Can't remember exactly what I wrote) Apparent weightlessness occurs when the only force acting on an object is due to gravity. The object feels no normal reaction force, hence it feels "weightless" etc etc
10. 45
11. 135
12. 8.37
13. Arrow pointing to centre of earth
14. 15260
AOS2
1. 4.29
2. 0.82
3. 0.23
4. 0.05
5. OFF OFF OFF ON ON ON
6. 300
7. Clips when V_in is 30mV , inverted
8. B, A, C, B
9. 5000
10. 1000
11. increased
Structures:
1. D
2. D
3. A
4. D
5. D
6. B
7. B
8. D
9. A
10. D
11. C
12. C
13. C
Post by: Over9000 on June 09, 2009, 03:09:11 pm
Post by: Damo17 on June 09, 2009, 03:10:01 pm
all same except I did 720 instead of 480 for weight question :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:
A few people from my school did that as well. I wrote 480N.
Post by: junkie1999 on June 09, 2009, 03:11:56 pm
Post by: danieltennis on June 09, 2009, 03:19:32 pm
Since it is going up at 5m/s, then deccelerates at 2m/s/s the acceleration would be in the downward direction, same as the acceleration due to gravity. Adding these together gives an acceleration of 12m/s/s which results in a weight of 720N. I hope that's right
I just got
Fnet = mg - N
60 * 2 = 60 * 10 -N
N = 480 N
And also you know that the Normal reaction force must be smaller than the previous q because Fnet is downwards since its decelerating. Therefore, W > N
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 03:19:41 pm
Since it is going up at 5m/s, then deccelerates at 2m/s/s the acceleration would be in the downward direction, same as the acceleration due to gravity. Adding these together gives an acceleration of 12m/s/s which results in a weight of 720N. I hope that's rightLet up be positive
Post by: Over9000 on June 09, 2009, 03:20:23 pm
Since it is going up at 5m/s, then deccelerates at 2m/s/s the acceleration would be in the downward direction, same as the acceleration due to gravity. Adding these together gives an acceleration of 12m/s/s which results in a weight of 720N. I hope that's rightOmfg, that exactly my thinking, but then I realised im pretty sure its wrong, the answer is 480N im sure, sigh, I suk at logic
Post by: appianway on June 09, 2009, 03:31:47 pm
Obviously I don't have my exam here with me, but I think all of my answers were the same as the iTute ones... I might be getting a derived score anyway though, but it's a relief to know that I didn't fail.
Still annoyed at the simplicity of the exam though.
Post by: NE2000 on June 09, 2009, 03:42:02 pm
Does anyone know why the projectile question gave a page of working and was worth four marks?
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 03:45:43 pm
480 is right...No idea, teacher said it was ridiculous.
Does anyone know why the projectile question gave a page of working and was worth four marks?
Post by: hauhau on June 09, 2009, 03:45:58 pm
Post by: NE2000 on June 09, 2009, 03:47:50 pm
what was question 12 for AOs1 again?
Vertical circular motion
N=0
Find v
Post by: Damo17 on June 09, 2009, 03:48:51 pm
what was question 12 for AOs1 again?
Vertical circular motion. Min speed at top when inside loop.
Working:
10=v^2/7 , v=8.37
Post by: hauhau on June 09, 2009, 03:51:41 pm
Post by: danieltennis on June 09, 2009, 03:52:16 pm
480 is right...
Does anyone know why the projectile question gave a page of working and was worth four marks?
just reminded me of the q that required you to draw a simple graph in the methods exam 1 last year. It was also worth four marks.
Edit: 1000 POSTS. IM part of the VN furniture
Post by: methodsboy on June 09, 2009, 03:53:29 pm
Post by: dejan91 on June 09, 2009, 03:57:32 pm
Post by: appianway on June 09, 2009, 03:58:21 pm
Post by: TonyHem on June 09, 2009, 03:58:35 pm
That's what I get for trying something new on the exam lol
Post by: methodsboy on June 09, 2009, 03:58:50 pm
Don't you hate it when you know you were thinking of the right answer but you didn't know it at the time? So you put the wrong one...Or is that just me?OMG yes!...i fcuked up that sum of all torques at P.....hgskja teity sa !
Post by: NE2000 on June 09, 2009, 03:59:12 pm
I'm really interested in what the cut off for an A+ will be/how many 90s will be obtained. I presume that a lot of people will overestimate their marks because they don't know their answers to the MC off by heart, or will assume that they scored perfect marks on the explaining questions.
But weren't there just two explaining questions?
Post by: appianway on June 09, 2009, 04:05:38 pm
Post by: kenny17 on June 09, 2009, 04:07:10 pm
Post by: Damo17 on June 09, 2009, 04:11:05 pm
can anyone tell me exactly wat to clik to get the solutions??
http://www.itute.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=872
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 04:12:40 pm
There were, but if people put down 2 points on one (rather than 4), then that's automatically a 88/90.. and so on.2 points for what...?
Post by: NE2000 on June 09, 2009, 04:13:46 pm
There were, but if people put down 2 points on one (rather than 4), then that's automatically a 88/90.. and so on.2 points for what...?
For weightlessness question, 4 points for 4 marks.
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 04:15:36 pm
Teacher said for that question, 1 point = 2 marks.There were, but if people put down 2 points on one (rather than 4), then that's automatically a 88/90.. and so on.2 points for what...?
For weightlessness question, 4 points for 4 marks.
Post by: NE2000 on June 09, 2009, 04:17:07 pm
Teacher said for that question, 1 point = 2 marks.There were, but if people put down 2 points on one (rather than 4), then that's automatically a 88/90.. and so on.2 points for what...?
For weightlessness question, 4 points for 4 marks.
Oh well...all that means is that a lot of people might have overdone their explanations but it won't cost them anything as long as it's all correct.
Post by: naved_s9994 on June 09, 2009, 04:17:34 pm
everyone including teachers said that.
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 04:18:29 pm
for q 8, AOS 1 - dont we use m(g+a)...= 720?If you think about it intuitively, as you are slowing down in a lift, wouldn't you feel lighter? :X
everyone including teachers said that.
Post by: anonuser0511 on June 09, 2009, 04:20:39 pm
i know i lost one on the LED, and perhaps one on the explanation of increase - since itute doesn't have it how did you guys prove it?
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 04:21:46 pm
So R must increase if you still want to get 8V.
Post by: kurrymuncher on June 09, 2009, 04:24:49 pm
Post by: anonuser0511 on June 09, 2009, 04:25:29 pm
Post by: danieltennis on June 09, 2009, 04:25:44 pm
There were, but if people put down 2 points on one (rather than 4), then that's automatically a 88/90.. and so on.2 points for what...?
For weightlessness question, 4 points for 4 marks.
From memory:
- apparent weightless is experienced by an object when in free fall and moving with an acceleration equal to the gravitional field strength at their location
- there is no force between the object and its surroundings
- Hence, N=0
- Gravitational weight force will remain the same since W = mg. Mass and g stays the same
I wrote another thing, but i can't really remember.
Post by: anonuser0511 on June 09, 2009, 04:26:12 pm
arrrrrgh crap I only put two OFFs for the LED question.yea same. if only we lived in some sort of string theory universe where LEDs in forward bias can light up without a complete circuit...
Post by: anonuser0511 on June 09, 2009, 04:28:07 pm
There were, but if people put down 2 points on one (rather than 4), then that's automatically a 88/90.. and so on.2 points for what...?
For weightlessness question, 4 points for 4 marks.
From memory:
- apparent weightless is experienced by an object when in free fall and moving with an acceleration equal to the gravitional field strength at their location
- there is no force between the object and its surroundings
- Hence, N=0
- Gravitational weight force will remain the same since W = mg. Mass and g stays the same
I wrote another thing, but i can't really remember.
i went with
-not experiencing true weightlessness as
w=mg
g>0
W>0
then
Fnet = mg - N
ma = mg - N
N = mg - ma
in freefall (a=g)
N = m(0)
= 0
then i had some random example of here pulling something out of her pocket it'd appear to be floating
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on June 09, 2009, 04:30:46 pm
Post by: dejan91 on June 09, 2009, 04:31:35 pm
arrrrrgh crap I only put two OFFs for the LED question.Yeah screwed me up too. * Facepalms* But after you think about it, it MUST turn off as there isn't a complete circuit in that part of the parallel circuit. Pretty much the equivalent of cutting the wire at the reverse-biased LED.
Post by: simplicity123 on June 09, 2009, 04:32:02 pm
And with the explanation of the apparent weightlessness, i also gave an example of a body falling downwards, saying that the only forces acting on it are gravitational force and air resistance with 0 contact force. Isit ok if i said air resistance? Or does apparent weightlessness only mean gravity acting on the body only?
Post by: dejan91 on June 09, 2009, 04:34:04 pm
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 04:37:12 pm
how many marks do u think i'll lose if i put 720N for that apparent weight question. Im pretty sure my method was all right except that i misinterpreted the 2ms^-2 decelerating and used -2 instead, thus resulting in 720.It is meant to be -2?
And with the explanation of the apparent weightlessness, i also gave an example of a body falling downwards, saying that the only forces acting on it are gravitational force and air resistance with 0 contact force. Isit ok if i said air resistance? Or does apparent weightlessness only mean gravity acting on the body only?
Post by: simplicity123 on June 09, 2009, 04:41:19 pm
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 04:43:23 pm
2 for working out.
1 for answer in the box.
Post by: Mao on June 09, 2009, 04:47:21 pm
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on June 09, 2009, 04:52:38 pm
Thx heaps for solutions btw =D
Post by: mano91 on June 09, 2009, 04:53:45 pm
omg mao, i dont know if i wanna look at it!
[/quoteSee attached
(Structures + Further Electronics)
hey mao, i believe you did question 10 incorrectly for electronics.
you just mis-read the value of the resistor at 25 degrees.
Post by: simplicity123 on June 09, 2009, 04:53:57 pm
Post by: ATM on June 09, 2009, 04:56:39 pm
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 04:57:27 pm
Post by: danieltennis on June 09, 2009, 04:57:37 pm
Yea just from memory i'm pretty sure i got 1000 ohms for the variable resistor on question 10
yeah.
Post by: ATM on June 09, 2009, 05:00:01 pm
Post by: Mao on June 09, 2009, 05:02:48 pm
Post by: jujimufu on June 09, 2009, 05:04:07 pm
Post by: ryley on June 09, 2009, 05:09:49 pm
Post by: hxleong on June 09, 2009, 05:18:26 pm
I changed my answer in the apparent weight thing from 480 to 720 cos I thought I got the formula wrong. fail
Otherwise HOORAY PHYSICS. easy exam
Post by: kurrymuncher on June 09, 2009, 05:19:10 pm
Post by: TonyHem on June 09, 2009, 05:22:05 pm
Post by: dejan91 on June 09, 2009, 05:22:30 pm
And Tonyhem, apparently around August.
Post by: mano91 on June 09, 2009, 05:26:07 pm
and also in the modulation question, i got 1 right.
is that a half mark?
Post by: UprightMan on June 09, 2009, 05:26:39 pm
Post by: kurrymuncher on June 09, 2009, 05:27:32 pm
Post by: Mao on June 09, 2009, 05:27:39 pm
I'm concerned. So many people claiming high scores...is that just because of the intellect of the people on this forum is wayyyy above average, or did the rest of VIC find it easy too?
You'll find that the people who have enough motivation to come to a VCE discussion site, actively participate in community discussion, help each other out and do things of that like, tend to be the better students of the state :)
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 05:28:45 pm
for the apparent weight question. i wrote 720. how many marks would i lose?I *think* you might lose 2 marks for the 720 question. Because 2 marks are for methods and 1 is for answer, the answer mark is consequential (meaning if your method is right but subbed in a wrong value, then even though your answer is wrong it still gets a mark, unlike other subjects like methods.) But if you get 720, it would mean your method had a problem as well.
and also in the modulation question, i got 1 right.
is that a half mark?
Post by: dejan91 on June 09, 2009, 05:31:22 pm
I'm concerned. So many people claiming high scores...is that just because of the intellect of the people on this forum is wayyyy above average, or did the rest of VIC find it easy too?
You'll find that the people who have enough motivation to come to a VCE discussion site, actively participate in community discussion, help each other out and do things of that like, tend to be the better students of the state :)
Hmm I thought so. Anyway, thanks for the worked solutions Mao :)
Post by: TonyHem on June 09, 2009, 05:34:07 pm
Quote
Taking up as positive
Fnet = Fn+fg
Fn = 2 x 60 = 120
FG = 60 x -10 = -600
120 = Fn -600
Fn = 720
Based on those solutions, got the "h"value wrong and this q. :[
Post by: UprightMan on June 09, 2009, 05:34:23 pm
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 05:37:24 pm
For that question, I got 720 ( wrong), would I get a mark for doing:I think you'd get 1/3 for that question.QuoteTaking up as positive
Fnet = Fn+fg
Fn = 2 x 60 = 120
FG = 60 x -10 = -600
120 = Fn -600
Fn = 720
Based on those solutions, got the "h"value wrong and this q. :[
You would have lost 1 for method, 1 for answer (since your answer was not consequential due to wrong method ; should have been
Post by: Mao on June 09, 2009, 05:43:45 pm
Congratulations to all students, you have all survived Unit 3. :) [Rumour has it that unit 4 is easier]
I have referenced my solutions to Itute, everything is in agreement except where I didn't read the question properly. That has been corrected in Errata also in first post.
I will be happy to answer specific questions anyone may have. And I appreciate all those 'thank-you's being thrown around :)
Once again, congrats, and those of you who have chem tomorrow, toodles, go study :P
Post by: avram_grant on June 09, 2009, 05:45:40 pm
Post by: Mao on June 09, 2009, 05:48:20 pm
For that question, I got 720 ( wrong), would I get a mark for doing:I think you'd get 1/3 for that question.QuoteTaking up as positive
Fnet = Fn+fg
Fn = 2 x 60 = 120
FG = 60 x -10 = -600
120 = Fn -600
Fn = 720
Based on those solutions, got the "h"value wrong and this q. :[
You would have lost 1 for method, 1 for answer (since your answer was not consequential due to wrong method ; should have been)
I believe he should get 2/3. The only mistake he made was he mistook a=-2 for a=2. Everything else were consequential.
Post by: nbalakers24 on June 09, 2009, 05:49:09 pm
Post by: dejan91 on June 09, 2009, 05:49:17 pm
what do you guys reckon the average was? i reckon about high 60s, low 70s - generally the state makes silly errorsWell considering it was around last years difficulty (and the average was 64% last year), around 60-70% would be about right.
Post by: Mao on June 09, 2009, 05:49:50 pm
what do you guys reckon the average was? i reckon about high 60s, low 70s - generally the state makes silly errors
Overall, it wasn't a hard exam. The questions were fairly simple, but it was long. The state average should remain what it has in previous years, A+ cut off would be 10~14 marks.
Post by: Mao on June 09, 2009, 05:50:25 pm
how long did it take you to wirte up the solutions Mao?
With interruptions, ~1.5hrs
Post by: kurrymuncher on June 09, 2009, 05:52:09 pm
Post by: Damo17 on June 09, 2009, 05:53:35 pm
10-14 marks?? thats way too much
he means after doubling occurs, so between 83-85/90.
Post by: dejan91 on June 09, 2009, 05:54:11 pm
10-14 marks?? thats way too much
he means after doubling occurs, so between 83-85/90.
Doubling?
Post by: kurrymuncher on June 09, 2009, 05:54:25 pm
Post by: redmosez on June 09, 2009, 05:57:09 pm
The only answer I'm confused about is question 11 in motion.
I figured the (total) max height of the parabolic path was 135, and to get the height of the cliff you had to subtract 45m from 135 to get 90m.
Can anyone please go through the question for?
Thanks again
Post by: kurrymuncher on June 09, 2009, 05:58:20 pm
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 05:58:32 pm
Thanks so much for the post Mao,When you sub into the constant acceleration formula, the value of x you get is the displacement, therefore it already gives you the "h" value.
The only answer I'm confused about is question 11 in motion.
I figured the (total) max height of the parabolic path was 135, and to get the height of the cliff you had to subtract 45m from 135 to get 90m.
Can anyone please go through the question for?
Thanks again
Post by: redmosez on June 09, 2009, 06:00:51 pm
Oh well one wrong!
Thanks Truetears appreciate the quick reply mate
Post by: danieltennis on June 09, 2009, 06:02:57 pm
10-14 marks?? thats way too much
he means after doubling occurs, so between 83-85/90.
Doubling?
Two people mark the exam I think so its out of 180.
Post by: purelemon on June 09, 2009, 06:04:44 pm
Post by: Over9000 on June 09, 2009, 06:06:11 pm
good luck to all doing chem! i know i need it :crazy2:Yes coz its assumed people doing physics are doing chem instead of people in the chem thread who are actually doing chem?
Post by: purelemon on June 09, 2009, 06:07:44 pm
Post by: Over9000 on June 09, 2009, 06:10:20 pm
in case ppl really need the luck lol.....wow ur doin 6 subs in 09'?Yeh I dropped my 3/4 I was doing last year, and picked up one this year instead.
Post by: purelemon on June 09, 2009, 06:17:48 pm
in case ppl really need the luck lol.....wow ur doin 6 subs in 09'?Yeh I dropped my 3/4 I was doing last year, and picked up one this year instead.
btw u got a fukn problem with me doing 6 subjects?
lol so agro in yr 12 lol....take a chill pill...takin 6 subjects man....my hat goes off to you.. aside from italian im doin the same subs as u are...amazing some people can still cope to do more....RESPECT man
on a side note....DO U FUKN have a problem with me asking u why the hell u do 6 subs? lol
Post by: Over9000 on June 09, 2009, 06:19:59 pm
Post by: pHysiX on June 09, 2009, 06:20:58 pm
Post by: mano91 on June 09, 2009, 06:37:19 pm
what do you guys reckon the average was? i reckon about high 60s, low 70s - generally the state makes silly errors
Overall, it wasn't a hard exam. The questions were fairly simple, but it was long. The state average should remain what it has in previous years, A+ cut off would be 10~14 marks.
you really think the cut off will be that low?
i mean, last years was 82/90.
i might be in luck if it is as low as u say :)
Post by: BlueYoHo on June 09, 2009, 06:39:49 pm
lol im sorry to do this to you guys, but here goes:
If im averaging a "mid A" for the course work
and get an A+ for 1 exam
and A+ for the second exam...
what would my raw study score be?
lol sorry, couldnt resist, i just want to know.
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 06:41:14 pm
I think cut off will be around 85/90what do you guys reckon the average was? i reckon about high 60s, low 70s - generally the state makes silly errors
Overall, it wasn't a hard exam. The questions were fairly simple, but it was long. The state average should remain what it has in previous years, A+ cut off would be 10~14 marks.
you really think the cut off will be that low?
i mean, last years was 82/90.
i might be in luck if it is as low as u say :)
Post by: redmosez on June 09, 2009, 07:05:45 pm
Post by: TrueTears on June 09, 2009, 07:10:45 pm
I wonder how many marks i'd lose for q's 11 in motion, i had all the working out right to get 135 but for some stupid reason I subtracted 40 right at the end.Did you write in minus 40 in your working? Then put the answer?
If you wrote minus 40 in your working then put in answer, I'm guessing 1/3. (Since answer mark is not consequential)
If you didn't write minus 40 in your working and just put answer as 135-40, then you'd get 2/3.
Post by: anonuser0511 on June 09, 2009, 07:14:45 pm
Post by: Mao on June 09, 2009, 07:19:09 pm
lol btw, was I the only one chuckling to myself in the gravity Q when radius = 1.33E7
haha, lol
Post by: purelemon on June 09, 2009, 07:25:43 pm
WANNA GO ME!!!!!!!!! :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:
ill take u and those 3 henchmen of urs on in that sig of urs....u get those 3 i get chuck norris, bruce lee and clifford the big red dog
Post by: Over9000 on June 09, 2009, 07:30:38 pm
Ill bring fox mccloud, u wont be able to move when he combos ur asse and edge guards u. Never mess with the foxWANNA GO ME!!!!!!!!! :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:
ill take u and those 3 henchmen of urs on in that sig of urs....u get those 3 i get chuck norris, bruce lee and clifford the big red dog
Post by: nbalakers24 on June 09, 2009, 07:36:13 pm
how long did it take you to wirte up the solutions Mao?
With interruptions, ~1.5hrs
nice work man.
Post by: purelemon on June 09, 2009, 07:40:08 pm
lol at the fail math pun
Post by: wingwong on June 09, 2009, 07:52:22 pm
How about the cutoff for an A?I think cut off will be around 85/90what do you guys reckon the average was? i reckon about high 60s, low 70s - generally the state makes silly errors
Overall, it wasn't a hard exam. The questions were fairly simple, but it was long. The state average should remain what it has in previous years, A+ cut off would be 10~14 marks.
you really think the cut off will be that low?
i mean, last years was 82/90.
i might be in luck if it is as low as u say :)
Post by: Over9000 on June 09, 2009, 07:57:35 pm
Post by: redmosez on June 09, 2009, 08:07:22 pm
I wonder how many marks i'd lose for q's 11 in motion, i had all the working out right to get 135 but for some stupid reason I subtracted 40 right at the end.Did you write in minus 40 in your working? Then put the answer?
If you wrote minus 40 in your working then put in answer, I'm guessing 1/3. (Since answer mark is not consequential)
If you didn't write minus 40 in your working and just put answer as 135-40, then you'd get 2/3.
Nah I did all the working and got 135 then for some reason at the last minute wrote the answer as 90. I'm really hoping it's 2/3
Post by: kaanonball on June 09, 2009, 10:19:03 pm
i hope the cut off for an A+ is less than 85/90
Post by: TonyHem on June 09, 2009, 10:50:37 pm
I wonder how many marks i'd lose for q's 11 in motion, i had all the working out right to get 135 but for some stupid reason I subtracted 40 right at the end.
Did you write in minus 40 in your working? Then put the answer?
If you wrote minus 40 in your working then put in answer, I'm guessing 1/3. (Since answer mark is not consequential)
If you didn't write minus 40 in your working and just put answer as 135-40, then you'd get 2/3.
Nah I did all the working and got 135 then for some reason at the last minute wrote the answer as 90. I'm really hoping it's 2/3
On one of the things some of the members uploaded here, it said that if the student has done all the right working out, shown that their final answer is correct but has somehow made a transfer error from the working out to the answer box, full marks "should" be awarded.
Post by: tomygun_123 on June 10, 2009, 05:29:18 pm
Post by: homghomg1 on June 10, 2009, 07:30:42 pm
I'm 100% sure I wrote all that was required for all the explanation questions.
Hopefully I'm still in the run for a 50 with a 88/90
Post by: justin on June 10, 2009, 07:49:00 pm
Post by: TRoi on June 10, 2009, 08:05:08 pm
Question 10, electronics is incorrect. It's not 1250 ohms. It should be 500.yeah true. And the answer is 1000ohms?
Post by: Mao on June 10, 2009, 08:08:07 pm
Post by: TrueTears on June 10, 2009, 08:08:36 pm
Post by: john316 on June 11, 2009, 04:55:15 pm
Post by: dcc on June 11, 2009, 05:22:38 pm
(and go.)
Post by: dcc on June 11, 2009, 05:28:35 pm
Post by: Mao on June 11, 2009, 06:00:45 pm
How fast must a particle be moving such that its relativistic momentum is twice its newtonian momentum?
(and go.)
Post by: dcc on June 11, 2009, 06:07:44 pm
How fast must a particle be moving such that its relativistic momentum is twice its newtonian momentum?
(and go.)
that was almost as unsatisfying as when I got that question in my exam yesterday.
Post by: ayaz on June 12, 2009, 06:32:07 pm
Post by: TrueTears on June 12, 2009, 06:39:43 pm
hey i was just wondering if you get (83/90) would that be an A+Stop double posting.
Post by: rhjc.1991 on June 12, 2009, 07:08:17 pm
Post by: ayaz on June 12, 2009, 09:23:31 pm
Post by: methodsboy on June 12, 2009, 09:27:20 pm
Post by: TrueTears on June 12, 2009, 09:32:18 pm
hey does any one have an approximation what might be the cut off score for an A+Check other threads that you have posted in before you repost.
I think 84-85/90.
Post by: kurrymuncher on June 13, 2009, 12:39:49 am
hopefully 81/93
Thats too low, last years cutoff was 82. Since this years exam was easier, it wont move down. You mean out of 90 right??
Post by: dejan91 on June 13, 2009, 11:30:04 am
hopefully 81/93
Thats too low, last years cutoff was 82. Since this years exam was easier, it wont move down. You mean out of 90 right??
Hmm...Maybe everybody here just thinks it was easier than last year?
Post by: NE2000 on June 13, 2009, 03:20:20 pm
This exam was so weird. People I know who are smart are getting lower marks due to silly errors in Detailed Studies, which has TOO LITTLE questions for TOO MANY marks.
Yeah it's a bit annoying that Physics MC are worth 2 marks each.
Post by: Gloamglozer on June 13, 2009, 04:21:15 pm
hopefully 81/93
Thats too low, last years cutoff was 82. Since this years exam was easier, it wont move down. You mean out of 90 right??
Hmm...Maybe everybody here just thinks it was easier than last year?
I'm hoping that is the case as well, lol. But I doubt that is the case.
Post by: kashmuq on June 13, 2009, 07:05:21 pm
Post by: haggas on June 24, 2009, 10:50:28 pm
hey does any one have an approximation what might be the cut off score for an A+
high looks pretty easy
Post by: sebdog117 on August 28, 2009, 08:15:00 pm
Post by: NE2000 on August 28, 2009, 08:26:47 pm
thanks alot peeps, do u think next years test will be similar?
I think it will be lower. I think VCAA would want a better spread of results than they gained in this exam.
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on August 28, 2009, 08:29:54 pm
88 A+ cut off?
Post by: TrueTears on August 28, 2009, 08:31:24 pm
lol jk jk
Post by: NE2000 on August 28, 2009, 08:32:08 pm
Post by: NE2000 on August 28, 2009, 08:34:26 pm
If it was easier 90 A+ cut off?
lol jk jk
88 for an A?...lol...nah but I think VCAA will aim for a better spread of results and most likely will achieve it.
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on August 28, 2009, 08:35:35 pm