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Archived Discussion => 2009 => Mid-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Physics => Topic started by: /0 on June 09, 2009, 03:01:25 pm
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So... how do you think you went in the exam?
I think it was out of 90.
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It was a pretty easy exam. How did you find it /0?
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They put it on the table for me
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Should get A+...probably dropped 2 or 4 marks.
But yeah I thought it was pretty easy to be honest.
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I also thought it was easy
...don't want to say too much before I get marks though...
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Hopefully I can scrape an A.
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I've put in 89, just in case they didn't like one of my explanations. Hopefully it should be 90 though.
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I know I screwed up badly in the electronics section so I think that's 27 marks I'm in doubt. However, in general, I thought it was an easy exam compared to past VCAA exams (even though it's still a new course this year).
I'm hoping for the worst though, probably get around 50-60.
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I should get between 85-87 depending on my explanation of weightlessness.
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I know too many people that reckon they full-marked that...
What do you reckon A+ mark would be?
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I know too many people that reckon they full-marked that...
What do you reckon A+ mark would be?
Thinking about 85 now.
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I had the right answer for the LED on/off quetion, but changed it later, very pissed off. Apart from that, I think I was fine, but probably lost a handful of marks elsewhere due to dumb mistakes. Wasn't expecting VCAA to follow up a straightforward exam like last year with an even more straightforward exam. What do you guys think the A+ cutoff will be?
EDIT: After looking at the Itute solutions, it looks like the only marks I lost were those LED ones(assuming my explanation responses were fine). Why do I feel like I'm setting myself up for a big fall by posting this :idiot2:
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I think 82-84. They'll probably mark the explaining questions harshly, and most people will have dropped a few marks here and there. In my opinion, it was around equal difficulty to 2008... however, the marks probably seem slightly inflated here because:
1) People overestimate their marks in the explaining questions
2) Everyone who comes on here is interested in VCE, and thus probably prepared well for the exam
3) People presume that they got most of their multiple choice right (but they can't tell because they don't have their answer sheet with them)
4) People may have written down something different to what they were actually thinking at the time, and hence might THINK they have the correct answer even when they don't.
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hmm I want to significantly downgrade my estimate
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I think I dropped 8-9 marks on sheer stupidity
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I had the right answer for the LED on/off quetion, but changed it later, very pissed off. Apart from that, I think I was fine, but probably lost a handful of marks elsewhere due to dumb mistakes. Wasn't expecting VCAA to follow up a straightforward exam like last year with an even more straightforward exam. What do you guys think the A+ cutoff will be?
EDIT: After looking at the Itute solutions, it looks like the only marks I lost were those LED ones(assuming my explanation responses were fine). Why do I feel like I'm setting myself up for a big fall by posting this :idiot2:
That question I got wrong :P
I think the cutoff maybe 84/90
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5 ppl really think they got full marks? nice
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I think I dropped 8-9 marks on sheer stupidity
yep....82 or 81 /90 -->hopefully we can get an A+ (praying that the state didn't find the exam accessible)
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I think I dropped 8-9 marks on sheer stupidity
yep....82 or 81 /90 -->hopefully we can get an A+ (praying that the state didn't find the exam accessible)
OMG let's hope that VN is WAYYYYY above average!!
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What percentage do i need for around B?
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It's still a little early to tell what percentage but when the graded distributions come out, we'll be able to roughly tell.
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6 people got 90..?
Must've been a relatively easy exam.. and you'd think the cut-offs would be pretty high this year.
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My sister reckons she did very well.
All that she knows she got wrong so far is one MC and that Off/On question. (She wrote On Off Off On On On..instead of Off Off Off On On On...She was debating with herself whether to write on or off for the first box LOL).
My sister is expecting an A+. :D
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any1 else get dicked coz of the random "this sheet is blank" halfway thru electronics? i thought i was done and ten realised i had like another 4 q's to do with 5 mins to go, totally owned me since i didnt get anything else wrong
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any1 else get dicked coz of the random "this sheet is blank" halfway thru electronics? i thought i was done and ten realised i had like another 4 q's to do with 5 mins to go, totally owned me since i didnt get anything else wrong
Lol, that happened to a friend of mine, he missed two whole pages of electronics. 7 marks out the window.
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They're probably going to make the Unit 4 exam hell (a bit like Unit 3 Chem) to try and separate the field since this exam was relatively easy
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They're probably going to make the Unit 4 exam hell (a bit like Unit 3 Chem) to try and separate the field since this exam was relatively easy
I think that's what people thought last year too........but the A+ mark ended up being 1 mark lower and the number of 100%s doubled. http://vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/statistics/2008/section3/vce_physics_ga08.pdf
honestly, unless they make it very very long they can't do much because parts of Unit 4 Physics are sort of introductory and very incomplete. Eg. for interactions of light and matter we learn about a few experiments and the deductions we can make from them and a few calculations but as we don't go deep they tend to ask questions on those same experiments which we presumably know very well by the time of the exam.
That said, this is from looking at last year's exam, maybe they had a harder one a few years earlier
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My sister reckons she did very well.
All that she knows she got wrong so far is one MC and that Off/On question. (She wrote On Off Off On On On..instead of Off Off Off On On On...She was debating with herself whether to write on or off for the first box LOL).
My sister is excepting an A+. :D
yeah that's exactly what i did for the LED question. It was worth two marks. do you guys think that people did the same thing would get at least one mark for that question?
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My sister reckons she did very well.
All that she knows she got wrong so far is one MC and that Off/On question. (She wrote On Off Off On On On..instead of Off Off Off On On On...She was debating with herself whether to write on or off for the first box LOL).
My sister is excepting an A+. :D
yeah that's exactly what i did for the LED question. It was worth two marks. do you guys think that people did the same thing would get at least one mark for that question?
You would lose 1 mark for that question.
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They're probably going to make the Unit 4 exam hell (a bit like Unit 3 Chem) to try and separate the field since this exam was relatively easy
They have already written the Unit 4 exam when they were writing this exam
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I talked to people around my school and it seems like at least 6 people aced it :/
It's beginning to look like you'll only get a 50 if you ace both exams and get 100% on SACs
thanks vcaa fuck vcaa
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I talked to people around my school and it seems like at least 6 people aced it :/
It's beginning to look like you'll only get a 50 if you ace both exams and get 100% on SACs
thanks vcaa fuck vcaa
Nah there's actually more, I asked around at least 10 people got 100%.
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I talked to people around my school and it seems like at least 6 people aced it :/
It's beginning to look like you'll only get a 50 if you ace both exams and get 100% on SACs
thanks vcaa fuck vcaa
Nah there's actually more, I asked around at least 10 people got 100%.
In that case, I commend you VCAA for your efforts in making this years physics exam you fucking retards...
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What school do you go to /0?
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I talked to people around my school and it seems like at least 6 people aced it :/
It's beginning to look like you'll only get a 50 if you ace both exams and get 100% on SACs
thanks vcaa fuck vcaa
Nah there's actually more, I asked around at least 10 people got 100%.
Who gets the premier's awards if all the people who got 50 aced both exams and got 100% on SACs????
Maybe next exam will be made harder to allow VCAA to avoid this confusing predicament.
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I talked to people around my school and it seems like at least 6 people aced it :/
It's beginning to look like you'll only get a 50 if you ace both exams and get 100% on SACs
thanks vcaa fuck vcaa
Nah there's actually more, I asked around at least 10 people got 100%.
Who gets the premier's awards if all the people who got 50 aced both exams and got 100% on SACs????
Maybe next exam will be made harder to allow VCAA to avoid this confusing predicament.
True, unit 4 exam might be very hard :)
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I talked to people around my school and it seems like at least 6 people aced it :/
It's beginning to look like you'll only get a 50 if you ace both exams and get 100% on SACs
thanks vcaa fuck vcaa
Nah there's actually more, I asked around at least 10 people got 100%.
Who gets the premier's awards if all the people who got 50 aced both exams and got 100% on SACs????
Maybe next exam will be made harder to allow VCAA to avoid this confusing predicament.
I get it.
Well last year
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hey guys i jus wanna ask a small Q thats been bothering me for a while. i answered some Q's with my pencil,will they take marks off for that? i wrote it clear. but ye im jus a bit concerned. plz reply
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I answered mine all in pencil lol.
they shouldn't take any marks off.
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ohhk kool thanx man. i was so stressed hehe.
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They won't take any marks off but my teacher recommended that we do the exam in pen because supposedly lead can "smudge"
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Highly doubt many people will score 90/90.
Look at past exams perfect scores!
Over confident people who say 'Yep 100% To easy'
usually make careless mistakes.
Remember one mark for working, one for Correct answer.
Full Working!
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Highly doubt many people will score 90/90.
Look at past exams perfect scores!
Over confident people who say 'Yep 100% To easy'
usually make careless mistakes.
Remember one mark for working, one for Correct answer.
Full Working!
Not quite right, one mark for working, one for CONSEQUENTIAL answer. If you subbed in wrong number in your working and get wrong answer according to what u said, he/she wud lose the answer mark, but no in physics they still award it due to consequential marks.
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So like 1 month and a half till results?
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They come out in August.
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Isn't it that you get full marks if your answer is right regardless of whether there is working? I thought the working was only there in case you made a mistake somewhere and you could get some marks for showing your working. So technically if a person had all correct answers they wouldn't need to show working...
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They come out in August.
Jack said they come in september... i think its cause they get double marked this year.
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Isn't it that you get full marks if your answer is right regardless of whether there is working? I thought the working was only there in case you made a mistake somewhere and you could get some marks for showing your working. So technically if a person had all correct answers they wouldn't need to show working...
Nah I think what he means is if your method is perfectly correct but you subbed in a wrong value.
So like (a random example) you had V = IR , but you accidentally subbed in 9 for I when its meant to be like 20 or something, then you get your answer wrong, you still get awarded your marks for answer because your method is still correct just that you subbed in wrong value. Where as if you did like I = VR or something and get wrong answer, you would get no marks since your method is totally wrong.
Heh which is why physics is so sweet, consequential marks ftw!
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Not quite right, one mark for working, one for CONSEQUENTIAL answer. If you subbed in wrong number in your working and get wrong answer according to what u said, he/she wud lose the answer mark, but no in physics they still award it due to consequential marks.
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That is pretty much what i said....
If there is a two mark question and i get correct formula but incorrect answer i get 1 mark!
And if the next question is a follow up question. you can use the 'Incorrect' value from the first question and as long as you use the correct method you get full marks for the second part.
There for if the second part was worth 3 marks you would end up with a total of 4/5 marks.
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Remember one mark for working, one for Correct answer.
Full Working!
u said dat.
that's wrong, it's not one mark for correct answer, you answer can be 'wrong' due to a wrong substituted value yet u still get the answer mark....
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for example. ( 2 mark question)
Find speed if you traveled 20 meters in 10 seconds.
And you write V=d/t
Then you write v=50/10
=5ms^-1
you get one mark.
if you wrote v=mv^2/r
and got 100ms^-1 you get zero.
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Mate i know that... u used the wrong friggin method
read wut i said??
i said you get marks for incorrect answers due to wrong substitution, you said you get one MARK FOR CORRECT ANSWER.
Im saying u dont necessarily need a correct answer to get the mark for the answer, you can answer can be totally off due to a wrong substitution but CORRECT METHOD, and you can still get the answer mark.
what dont u understand?
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What over9000 said is true, you don't have to get the "correct" answer to get the mark for it, like I said above, you can 'accidentally' sub in a wrong value but you can still get the mark for answers provided your method was correct.
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Ah its too hard having this argument with someone who has know clue about the marking scheme.
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bahahahhahahaha hahahahahah
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Ah its too hard having this argument with someone who has know clue about the marking scheme.
Suit yourself, I dont think anything you say has any value. Im clearly right since I got this info from a teacher but listening to a smartass like you is like being told how do maths by a rock.
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Hahaha
This is fun!
Your still wrong.
If you put the wrong answer in the box that says Answer!
You lose one mark!
'consequential' marks some into play if you use you incorrect answer( You got from the first question) in the next part of the question.
therefore providing you don't mess this one up you will get full marks for the second part of the question but still only one mark for the first part.( Providing its out of 2)
That is how VCAA assessors mark the exams, my teacher is a VCAA assessor.
He the one who marks your exams. and that's how they get marked!
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If you do a question, and in the whole question, you sub in one value wrong, all working from that point will be wrong yet all you made is one mistake, are u stupid, how the fuk u think ur gonna lose all the marks coz of one mistake. Good luck with ur vce, you probs think if you dont shade in 100% of the circles in the gat they put u in jail, lol.
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Beautiful a comedian!
i don't understand anything you say honestly.
Are you foreign? because i would advise you get some one to help you express your self more clearer!
It hurts my eyes reading your drivel.
xo
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OMG are you serious toomoo?? You're just plain and simply wrong, and embarrassing yourself.....
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On a slightly irrelevant point what I was trying to say before was that my teacher told my class that as long as the answer in the box is correct, the examiners don't care if you have working or not. Obviously you would show working to ensure that if your answer was incorrect you could still get something for the method.
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On a slightly irrelevant point what I was trying to say before was that my teacher told my class that as long as the answer in the box is correct, the examiners don't care if you have working or not. Obviously you would show working to ensure that if your answer was incorrect you could still get something for the method.
Not sure about this but for practice exams, when I went through the solutions they would award 1 mark for the correct answer, 1 mark for using the correct method and 1 mark for reaching a certain point in the calculations ( for a 3 mark q).
So my guess is that you still need working out and just having the answer with no working out wont get you full marks. Also the .doc Naved uploaded said something along the lines of "the assessor only needs to see the correct answer in the answer box and quickly look over your working out ( to see a logical/correct progression) to award full marks)
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Who cares, exam is over, let's wait patiently for results :)
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Who cares, exam is over, let's wait patiently for results :)
Or patiently wait to suffer painfully when we find out the silly mistakes I made... :(