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VCE Stuff => VCE Science => VCE Mathematics/Science/Technology => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Biology => Topic started by: chisel on February 02, 2013, 03:40:05 pm
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Has the text book changed for the new study design or is it still NOB?
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Has the text book changed for the new study design or is it still NOB?
It's still NoB, but the new edition -> 4th edition.
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It's still NoB, but the new edition -> 4th edition.
so would the third edition still be useful because im attempting to make a sale, but if i'm disadvantaging this guy i dont want to do it.
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so would the third edition still be useful because im attempting to make a sale, but if i'm disadvantaging this guy i dont want to do it.
I'm using the 3rd edition now and it's pretty useful. I think it's still okay to use the 3rd edition but the 4th edition has revised the 2012 content.
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I'm using the 3rd edition now and it's pretty useful. I think it's still okay to use the 3rd edition but the 4th edition has revised the 2012 content.
Cheers.. i'll probably just touch base with him and ask if he's all right with it.. So there's not a huge difference then?
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My school decided to use Nelson biology this year...
We were happy with NoB last year but for some apparent reason, they decided to shift things :S
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Is Nature of Biology better than Nelson? because my school also decided to use nelson, and I hear that NoB is better.
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The general consensus is that NoB is the superior text.
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The general consensus is that NoB is the superior text.
Yeah it is, and based on my schools results from one year having Nelson and the next having nob without a change of teachers, the results improved significantly for bio, however the year before wasn't the most "enthusiastic" year so..
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I use Nature of Biology 2 (4th edition) and I can say that the topics are delved deep into for a lot of topics; however, in saying that, there is so much irrelevant information that if it was taken out, I actually think you could have about 100 pages of the relevant info. All that chapter prelude crap is irrelevant. Nevertheless, I love how it breaks down all concepts into sub-concepts, making it easier to learn the topics.
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I use Nature of Biology 2 (4th edition) and I can say that the topics are delved deep into for a lot of topics; however, in saying that, there is so much irrelevant information that if it was taken out, I actually think you could have about 100 pages of the relevant info. All that chapter prelude crap is irrelevant. Nevertheless, I love how it breaks down all concepts into sub-concepts, making it easier to learn the topics.
Yeah this was what I hated about nob, especially when my teacher just set us hw like "read pg 230-260" and only 10 or so of those pages were relevant.. But I did enjoy those life story pages where you get a glimpse of what it's like to live with diabetes or having a child with Down syndrome, it puts it into a different and nice perspective IMO.
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But I did enjoy those life story pages where you get a glimpse of what it's like to live with diabetes or having a child with Down syndrome, it puts it into a different and nice perspective IMO.
Yeah its a bit of a good way to actually look at how the symptoms of these genetic disorders/illnesses, etc, can impact upon their lives. I also love the diagrams; I adore drawing and when I'm doing Biology, I feel like my love for it sky-rockets when I draw like a pentose sugar and label it (Ribose or Deoxyribose), or when I draw a nucleus with the nucleolus and nuclear membrane surrounding it, or my favourite, mitochondria, chloroplasts and drawing Rough Endoplasmic Reticulum! hehe I LOVE Biology!!
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Yeah its a bit of a good way to actually look at how the symptoms of these genetic disorders/illnesses, etc, can impact upon their lives. I also love the diagrams; I adore drawing and when I'm doing Biology, I feel like my love for it sky-rockets when I draw like a pentose sugar and label it (Ribose or Deoxyribose), or when I draw a nucleus with the nucleolus and nuclear membrane surrounding it, or my favourite, mitochondria, chloroplasts and drawing Rough Endoplasmic Reticulum! hehe I LOVE Biology!!
Yeah i remember the very first thing i had to do was draw an animal cell and a plant cell.. haha i just remember thinking there is no way i am gonna get through all this with all the words, processes, definitions, etc.. but it was worth it and i am glad i did that as one of my 3/4 subjects in year 11, it really was my favourite subject last year.
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Yeah i remember the very first thing i had to do was draw an animal cell and a plant cell.. haha i just remember thinking there is no way i am gonna get through all this with all the words, processes, definitions, etc.. but it was worth it and i am glad i did that as one of my 3/4 subjects in year 11, it really was my favourite subject last year.
I'm doing it in yr 11 purely because I want to enjoy doing it and not having to stress about it and not giving the time/energy I want to give it. But I love it and I think that is why several concepts have been stored in my mind :)
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Cheers.. i'll probably just touch base with him and ask if he's all right with it.. So there's not a huge difference then?
Not sure since I don't have the 4th edition. Sorry. Ask Yacoubb.
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Yeah its a bit of a good way to actually look at how the symptoms of these genetic disorders/illnesses, etc, can impact upon their lives. I also love the diagrams; I adore drawing and when I'm doing Biology, I feel like my love for it sky-rockets when I draw like a pentose sugar and label it (Ribose or Deoxyribose), or when I draw a nucleus with the nucleolus and nuclear membrane surrounding it, or my favourite, mitochondria, chloroplasts and drawing Rough Endoplasmic Reticulum! hehe I LOVE Biology!!
I'm not a very artistic person but I do think that diagrams help a lot in biology. It's great that you use your love for drawing in bio. I can already assume you are very enthusiastic about this subject and that you'll excel. :)
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so would the third edition still be useful because im attempting to make a sale, but if i'm disadvantaging this guy i dont want to do it.
Yes it is. I have both and there are almost no differences between the two; most of the content is exactly the same.
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Is Nature of Biology better than Nelson? because my school also decided to use nelson, and I hear that NoB is better.
I used both last year and NoB was better in every single way (except maybe in weight). That Nelson textbook and its shitty layout still makes me angry. It's like the windows 8 of biology textbooks - the pretty coloured pages and the story like layout make it seem kinda cool when you first use it, but try and do any proper work with it and it makes life so much harder. (Sorry for the rant, that textbook annoys me so much that I couldn't help it >:( )