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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: vcestudent94 on February 05, 2013, 08:35:10 am

Title: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: vcestudent94 on February 05, 2013, 08:35:10 am
Sem 1:
Linear Algebra, Calculus 2, Physics 1, Finance 1

Sem 2:
ESD 2, Real Analysis, Physics 2, Intro to Microeconomics

Can someone who's done these comment on the workload,
cheers :)
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: mark_alec on February 05, 2013, 02:07:56 pm
As on the handbook, each subject takes about 120 hours over the semester. It is recommended that for every hour of lectures you spend an hour revising/working through problems.

As for how much work it is for you, that is personal and depends entirely on how well you learn and your motivation.
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: Gloamglozer on February 05, 2013, 02:30:03 pm
Real Analysis isn't a first year subject.
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: vcestudent94 on February 05, 2013, 04:59:13 pm
Real Analysis isn't a first year subject.
But arn't you able to do it in Sem 2 if you meet the prerequisites?
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: BelVP on February 05, 2013, 05:41:23 pm
But arn't you able to do it in Sem 2 if you meet the prerequisites?

You should be allowed to. I've taken a 2nd year subject in first year too. Doesn't matter so long as you meet prereqs.
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: sluu001 on February 05, 2013, 05:56:58 pm
Cant comment on the science subjects - but micro and finance are rather simple introductory subjects that shouldnt take up too much time.
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: VivaTequila on February 05, 2013, 06:09:02 pm
Which physics 2 are you doing?
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: vcestudent94 on February 05, 2013, 06:16:00 pm
Which physics 2 are you doing?
Physical science and technology
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: Gloamglozer on February 05, 2013, 10:31:31 pm
But arn't you able to do it in Sem 2 if you meet the prerequisites?

You can, but the topic title asked for the workload of "these first year subjects".  I just wanted to point out that Real Analysis isn't a first year subject and it'll be a little "different" to the maths you might be used to seeing.
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: vcestudent94 on February 05, 2013, 11:10:07 pm
You can, but the topic title asked for the workload of "these first year subjects".  I just wanted to point out that Real Analysis isn't a first year subject and it'll be a little "different" to the maths you might be used to seeing.
Yeah sorry, I should've been more specific. What I meant was, how is the workload of these subjects 'in' first year.
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: catchmeifyoucan on February 06, 2013, 02:39:32 am
Do you want to give us a guide to what kind of marks you want to get? If you just want to pass, I've done all those subjects except for Real Analysis and Micro and passed them all without really studying during the semester. If you want H1s well then that's a different story.
 
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: vcestudent94 on February 06, 2013, 09:58:00 am
Do you want to give us a guide to what kind of marks you want to get? If you just want to pass, I've done all those subjects except for Real Analysis and Micro and passed them all without really studying during the semester. If you want H1s well then that's a different story.
Well, yeah I'll be aiming to get above 90 for all of them (except for breadths) but I'll be happy with anything above 80, so H1's ?

To give you an idea, in VCE I studied an average of 2 hours a day and closer to exams, about 4 hours a day and achieved a 98 ATAR. If I studied the same way, am I likely to achieve my goals?
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: BelVP on February 06, 2013, 12:48:29 pm
The answer to that question all depends on how well you adapt to uni ...especially whether or not you get distracted by all the fun stuff on campus and end up slacking off/falling behind. I had a worse ATAR than most people I know but ended up doing better or on par as them in my first year of uni. ATAR has no indication of uni success, really. The workload of uni is a big jump and it's also MUCH MUCH easier to get distracted and fall behind.
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: sluu001 on February 06, 2013, 05:36:39 pm
Yeah 90 average will require a special effort to achieve. An 80 average upon graduation should already give you access to most (if not all) the best graduate positions.
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: Hancock on February 06, 2013, 05:50:31 pm
I study at least every 2nd day properly, and I read outside the course through the prescribed textbooks. This gave me a 94.25 average last year, which is something I'm quite proud to achieve. Make sure that you do understand how each concept works back to front and how to apply it. This is not only true for Science, but for all courses. This can be done by completely every problem they give you (especially in Math courses) and revising the lecture before and after you've listened.

You'll have to dedicate a significant amount of time keeping your motivation high, which is quite similar to VCE. Although I did less overall work at uni compared to VCE, you do it in a quicker time period, making it very intense (especially around week 6 or assignment week). Expect to keep similar hours of studying if you were going to achieve a 95+ ATAR.

The biggest GPA killer at uni is a lack of motivation.

Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: jinny1 on February 06, 2013, 07:20:22 pm
This gave me a 94.25 average last year,


holy crap wow you are my inspiration lol ;)
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: VivaTequila on February 18, 2013, 11:56:11 am
This gave me a 94.25 average last year, which is something I'm quite proud to achieve.

Just a cheeky 20 points short of you. Major props, that's such an impressive mark.

Spoiler
mavisgibbons watch out

The biggest GPA killer at uni is a lack of motivation.

This is true.
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: simpak on February 18, 2013, 12:16:55 pm
Hey! I got a 94.5 before I left last year ;3

I think it all depends on how much work you make for yourself.  You can't really compare working in VCE to working at uni because even though Year 12 is more independent than other years of high school, university is the most independent study environment you will encounter.
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: Hancock on February 18, 2013, 12:34:35 pm
Haha cheers guys. I actually set my goal to get an average around Mavis' and Stonecold's at the start of 1st year so it looks like I've succeeded!
Title: Re: Workload for these first year subjects
Post by: simpak on February 18, 2013, 01:06:00 pm
Of course you did, you're awesome!