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Title: HOW DID YOU GUYS GO?
Post by: TrueTears on June 10, 2009, 02:38:15 pm
Long exam! Finished with about 10 mins to check, but that was pretty hard !
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Post by: monokekie on June 10, 2009, 02:39:01 pm
i just checked Mao's answers,

and yeah, its harddd
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Post by: mystikal on June 10, 2009, 02:39:05 pm
Long exam! Finished with about 10 mins to check, but that was pretty hard !

you say pretty hard .. .. . i thought it was insane == i guessed like heaps ==
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Post by: TrueTears on June 10, 2009, 02:40:08 pm
I had to do the MQ really fast so I could get enough time for short answer.

Many people at my school didn't finish :(
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Post by: monokekie on June 10, 2009, 02:42:16 pm
i know, i feel so sorry for them ....
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Post by: dekoyl on June 10, 2009, 02:52:58 pm
i know, i feel so sorry for them ....
How so?
It was a hard exam IMO.

'Grats to you that you did well.

I worked until the last second. Didn't get time to check. Missed out on a 2 mark question.
Already spotted heaps of mistakes by glancing over Mao's answers.

FML
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Post by: monokekie on June 10, 2009, 02:55:06 pm
... nah i don't think i did well..

>< i just finished it on time, and a friend of mine has only last question to go and then the times out.....
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Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on June 10, 2009, 02:57:35 pm
I phailed.
Time to go and cut myself ={
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Post by: TheJosh on June 10, 2009, 02:58:32 pm
Yeah i like finished like a minute before but got heaps of mistakes looking at Mao's solutions....:(

Man no matter how much prep i did i don't think i expected that....

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Post by: toomoo on June 10, 2009, 03:15:12 pm
Jesus good exam!

My schools Chemistry class finished all on time. accept  for one kid.

Fairly happy!
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Post by: cdjm92 on June 10, 2009, 03:32:50 pm
Yep, it was harder than expected. I almost guessed 2 MC and completely skipped 8 and 10 (& possiblly another)

Does anyone have a copy of their answers? I wrote all my multi-choice and a few written answers in my databook so i can compare.....

10 short answer q's was way too much :)


Q2d)
Part i) How does Na form salt with (whatever the other was)
i just replaced the H from carboxylic with Na, just as if it were Na+ cation and COO- anion....

Part ii) Why is above Na salt more water-soluble than aspirin?
I said cause Na+ ionic compounds are always water-soluble...
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Post by: phuiii on June 10, 2009, 03:35:45 pm
Haha I said that Na is water soluble too:)
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Post by: cdjm92 on June 10, 2009, 03:37:57 pm
Haha I said that Na is water soluble too:)

someone on boredofstudies forum said something about it being polar....maybe being both polar and Na+ made it soluble?.....
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Post by: GoodGuys on June 10, 2009, 03:39:45 pm
I RICKED ROLLED THE EXAMINER!!!!!!!!!!


I WROTE THE ENTIRE SONGS LYRICS, THEN I WROTE "  MR EXAMINER HAVE BEEN RICKED ROLLED "

BEST MOMENT IN YM EXAM...

ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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Post by: lukeperry91 on June 10, 2009, 03:46:30 pm
How the hell did you have time to do that goodguys?
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Post by: GoodGuys on June 10, 2009, 03:52:08 pm
well i didnt do the last question,
and because im making chem my last...
 
i said to my self, why not make the examiner a little note...
so i rick and rolled !!!!

it was the best moment, and the examiner was looking at me.. thinking why i was smiling and everyone around me was about to cry...
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Post by: NE2000 on June 10, 2009, 03:52:22 pm
Talked about charge + dissociation in solution + other random Unit 2 stuff...
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Post by: miss_muffiny on June 10, 2009, 03:55:03 pm
holy mother of ****
that was a ridiculous exam.
by far harder than any prac exam i've done or last years one.
i didnt understand half the questions!!
and thinking back, in my rush to go back and answer questions i left, i missed the Na one. bugger
guessed a fair few of MC
refusing to look at the answers
dont want to be more depressed haha just damn glad its over!!
my whole school found it difficult, and i think most people have, so it'll have to be marked up.
but man...AWFUL
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Post by: lacoste on June 10, 2009, 04:26:43 pm
I RICKED ROLLED THE EXAMINER!!!!!!!!!!


I WROTE THE ENTIRE SONGS LYRICS, THEN I WROTE "  MR EXAMINER HAVE BEEN RICKED ROLLED "

BEST MOMENT IN YM EXAM...

ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


..... if I was the examiner, I would have gave you full marks for that question, just for a laugh!!
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Post by: kurrymuncher on June 10, 2009, 04:32:13 pm
I got Fucked over by the VCAA


seriously, why the fuck is this exam worth 73 marks, when it was so long. Also, why was there such a long paragraph on the last page ffs

aww well
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Post by: Gloamglozer on June 10, 2009, 04:36:15 pm
I reckon I did ok except for the volumetric analyses questions...  Not to mention question 10...  What on Earth was that?
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Post by: avram_grant on June 10, 2009, 04:45:16 pm
yeh q10... they leave the hardest till the end. I had like 5 mins to do it. I hope chem goes up by like 20 this year... ill need it
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Post by: kurrymuncher on June 10, 2009, 04:52:44 pm
yeh q10... they leave the hardest till the end. I had like 5 mins to do it. I hope chem goes up by like 20 this year... ill need it

The scaling wont be adjusted based on the difficulty of the exam.
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Post by: Gloamglozer on June 10, 2009, 04:55:08 pm
yeh q10... they leave the hardest till the end. I had like 5 mins to do it. I hope chem goes up by like 20 this year... ill need it

Except for last year's exam.  Last year's exam had a pretty easy question at the end.

Just a little side note to extend on kurrymuncher's comment, isn't scaling based on how well Chem students do in their other subjects and not the difficulty of the paper?
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Post by: kurrymuncher on June 10, 2009, 04:56:06 pm
yeh q10... they leave the hardest till the end. I had like 5 mins to do it. I hope chem goes up by like 20 this year... ill need it

Except for last year's exam.  Last year's exam had a pretty easy question at the end.

Just a little side note to extend on kurrymuncher's comment, isn't scaling based on how well Chem students do in their other subjects and not the difficulty of the paper?

yeah, thats exactly right.
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Post by: NE2000 on June 10, 2009, 04:58:45 pm
So if you want scaling, go study hard for your other subjects...

although that would presumably mean you study less for chem...

which would means you end up the same place anyway...

...so don't rely on scaling :)
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Post by: hard on June 10, 2009, 05:02:47 pm
I got Fucked over by the VCAA


seriously, why the fuck is this exam worth 73 marks, when it was so long. Also, why was there such a long paragraph on the last page ffs

aww well
i didn't even read the paragraph so i left the whole q out. meh
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Post by: Gloamglozer on June 10, 2009, 05:05:10 pm
yeh q10... they leave the hardest till the end. I had like 5 mins to do it. I hope chem goes up by like 20 this year... ill need it

Except for last year's exam.  Last year's exam had a pretty easy question at the end.

Just a little side note to extend on kurrymuncher's comment, isn't scaling based on how well Chem students do in their other subjects and not the difficulty of the paper?

yeah, thats exactly right.

In that case, scaling shouldn't change too much (if at all) this year.

Now that I think about it, it's funny how the Chem paper was hard but the physics one everyone is saying was easy.
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Post by: Edmund on June 10, 2009, 05:07:38 pm
I RICKED ROLLED THE EXAMINER!!!!!!!!!!


I WROTE THE ENTIRE SONGS LYRICS, THEN I WROTE "  MR EXAMINER HAVE BEEN RICKED ROLLED "

BEST MOMENT IN YM EXAM...

ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
How did you remember the lyrics :S
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Post by: Lemollin on June 10, 2009, 05:16:26 pm
That was such a hard exam, i doubt anyone will get FULL MARKS.
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Post by: hard on June 10, 2009, 05:18:23 pm
That was such a hard exam, i doubt anyone will get FULL MARKS.
mao
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Post by: Lemollin on June 10, 2009, 05:26:24 pm
LoL
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Post by: eccentric on June 10, 2009, 05:28:04 pm
IT WAS SO EFFING LONG >_________________<
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Post by: Lemollin on June 10, 2009, 05:30:31 pm
SO EFFING HARD TOO!!!
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Post by: Samira on June 10, 2009, 05:35:57 pm
 :'( :'( :'( :'(

it was awful
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Post by: vamsiaus on June 10, 2009, 05:36:35 pm
Just out of curiosity how long did it take you to do the exam Mao
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Post by: charm on June 10, 2009, 05:49:10 pm
oh yuck. i thought us 2008 chem-ers had it bad last year and i told my brother yesterday, NO WAY will yours top ours. i come home today and he's like guess what? 10 questions. i felt soo sorrry for you guys who did it this year! and it doesnt look that easy either.
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Post by: GoodGuys on June 10, 2009, 06:09:44 pm
I RICKED ROLLED THE EXAMINER!!!!!!!!!!


I WROTE THE ENTIRE SONGS LYRICS, THEN I WROTE "  MR EXAMINER HAVE BEEN RICKED ROLLED "

BEST MOMENT IN YM EXAM...

ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
How did you remember the lyrics :S

i know the song...
my favourite song,
you usually learn when you play video games.
"rick rolled"
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Post by: khalil on June 10, 2009, 06:46:40 pm
fark man.. it was the hardest.. i was close to tears...didn't get to finish it,,,,,,,,didn't get to check my answers... guessed most of them.....

it's quiet sad.... preparing for 6 months... and not getting to finish like 6 questions....and in the end getting similar marks to someone who didn't even study... trully sad..
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Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on June 10, 2009, 06:49:26 pm
IT WAS SO EFFING LONG >_________________<


SO EFFING HARD TOO!!!

That's what she said.

Yes damn that chem exam ><
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Post by: simpak on June 10, 2009, 07:02:00 pm
fark man.. it was the hardest.. i was close to tears...didn't get to finish it,,,,,,,,didn't get to check my answers... guessed most of them.....

it's quiet sad.... preparing for 6 months... and not getting to finish like 6 questions....and in the end getting similar marks to someone who didn't even study... trully sad..

:) I feel your pain.
I sacrificed so many subjects to study for that exam >.>  I know a lot of people didn't, and they probably got better scores than I did.
And now I'm going to fail my methods sac next week because I haven't done methods at all in like, two months.
Chem and Bio ate my life.
Screw Bio, that was simple, but Chemistry?  D:
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Post by: linny on June 10, 2009, 07:08:13 pm
fark man.. it was the hardest.. i was close to tears...didn't get to finish it,,,,,,,,didn't get to check my answers... guessed most of them.....

it's quiet sad.... preparing for 6 months... and not getting to finish like 6 questions....and in the end getting similar marks to someone who didn't even study... trully sad..

:) I feel your pain.
I sacrificed so many subjects to study for that exam >.>  I know a lot of people didn't, and they probably got better scores than I did.
And now I'm going to fail my methods sac next week because I haven't done methods at all in like, two months.
Chem and Bio ate my life.
Screw Bio, that was simple, but Chemistry?  D:

yeah behind on like 3 chapters for spesh.....
did so much for chem and what would i get back T_T
i've never seen 10 questions on chem exam before ever.... has anyone else here seen them???
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Post by: magnum on June 10, 2009, 07:30:12 pm
Extra LONG

WAY HARDER than last year (those guys had it easy!)

pretty much NO straightforward questions (apart from like 2 organic chem q's)

they call that MCQ!!!! wtf man!! more like another few short answers!

I AM PRAYING for some REALLY LOW cutoffs!!!!!

any chance of 60% = A ??   :-\

ah well not much we can do about it now ............ :-[

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Post by: d0minicz on June 10, 2009, 07:33:43 pm
worked my fucking ass off
and still get shit =]
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Post by: asdasdasd on June 10, 2009, 07:47:22 pm
Exam was unbelievably hard. There are people I know that are hoping to get a double digit percentage.
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Post by: simpak on June 10, 2009, 07:49:40 pm
fark man.. it was the hardest.. i was close to tears...didn't get to finish it,,,,,,,,didn't get to check my answers... guessed most of them.....

it's quiet sad.... preparing for 6 months... and not getting to finish like 6 questions....and in the end getting similar marks to someone who didn't even study... trully sad..

:) I feel your pain.
I sacrificed so many subjects to study for that exam >.>  I know a lot of people didn't, and they probably got better scores than I did.
And now I'm going to fail my methods sac next week because I haven't done methods at all in like, two months.
Chem and Bio ate my life.
Screw Bio, that was simple, but Chemistry?  D:

yeah behind on like 3 chapters for spesh.....
did so much for chem and what would i get back T_T
i've never seen 10 questions on chem exam before ever.... has anyone else here seen them???

No.  I did about 22 practice exams, all in time, and I finished them all IN TIME bar one of them.
So much for practice exams being one of the best ways you can prepare for what to expect in the exam.  That worked out well, I can see.
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Post by: Mao on June 10, 2009, 07:51:40 pm
Just out of curiosity how long did it take you to do the exam Mao

Probably slightly longer than 90 minutes. [I didn't have reading time though]
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Post by: carolynkay on June 10, 2009, 10:21:29 pm
How much of a "fail" on this exam mean to your ENTER?
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Post by: ryley on June 11, 2009, 02:51:24 pm
Did about ~25-30 practice exams leading up to this, yet I was never so stretched for time in an exam, finished 5 minutes to go. I had no idea about the last two parts of the myrcene question, and I made a couple of dumb mistakes throughout the paper. Overall, I found the content of the exam fine, but it was far too long for the allotted time. When I walked out, I thought i lost about 20 marks, but after checking my solutions against mao's(didn't clear my calculator :)), I think I got 63-64/73.
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Post by: mystikal on June 11, 2009, 04:00:07 pm
sigh . .. . kinda depressed now, i got like 53/73 == i think thats a 'B'

so if im averaging low A+'s in sacs and 'B' in this exam, if i got an 'A+' in the next exam can i still get 40 RAW ?
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Post by: Mao on June 11, 2009, 04:22:25 pm
don't give up yet :) Wait till grade distribution is published. I have a feeling the A+ cut offs will be a lot lower this year.
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Post by: NE2000 on June 11, 2009, 04:33:16 pm
sigh . .. . kinda depressed now, i got like 53/73 == i think thats a 'B'

so if im averaging low A+'s in sacs and 'B' in this exam, if i got an 'A+' in the next exam can i still get 40 RAW ?

don't think it would be a B.

It's probably not a valid comparison, but last year Biology Unit 4 exam was considered difficult and the A+ mark was 53/75. So even if it doesn't go that low, I would think/hope that low 60s would give A+. Actually, last year you could lose 10 marks to get an A+. I think it will be a lot more than that this year considering all the people that didn't finish.
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Post by: jimmy999 on June 11, 2009, 05:10:47 pm
I'm just wondering is there anyone else on this board who thought they actually did well on the exam?

I compared my answers to Mao's and to my teacher's answers and I either got 68/73 or 70/73 depending on consequential marking.

I'll let you know that I found it to be quite tough too. There were a number of questions I reread and saw I wrote the wrong thing. The poor examiner who marks my paper seeing half the question crossed out. It normally only takes me 30 mins to do the extended response but this took 55 mins and 15 mins for multiple choice. Mind you the other top students in my class didn't do as well with some getting 50s
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Post by: linny on June 11, 2009, 05:46:10 pm
so did anyone walk out of the exam feeling good?
i sure didnt
im still pretty guttered about the whole thing :|
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Post by: kurrymuncher on June 11, 2009, 10:04:03 pm
yeah, I felt pretty good... mainly because we had strippers for supervisors.
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Post by: TrueTears on June 11, 2009, 10:13:00 pm
yeah, I felt pretty good... mainly because we had strippers for supervisors.
Wow, that must have been distracting. :)
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Post by: kurrymuncher on June 11, 2009, 10:15:19 pm
yeah, all the boys could only use one hand to actually finish the exam, the other hand was preoccupied.
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Post by: khalil on June 11, 2009, 10:51:37 pm
VCCA is evil... evil to the bone....did they presume that all smart pplz will be doing chem this year,,, and they might as well made it challenging for them?????.. did they not freakin realise there is some average folks out there too,, who would like a decent mark for the effort they put in.... not a freakin 45% which will be scaled.. to let me see a 50%....hmm very satisfying indeed...i may as well should of been partying hard all those months like others who would get similar to me....

I just hate VCCA......and plz say VCCA is fair.....
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Post by: AppleXY on June 11, 2009, 11:02:25 pm
What does VCCA stand for ? :P
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Post by: Flaming_Arrow on June 11, 2009, 11:12:12 pm
yeah, all the boys could only use one hand to actually finish the exam, the other hand was preoccupied.

haha
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Post by: cdjm92 on June 11, 2009, 11:14:57 pm
What does VCCA stand for ? :P

...Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority

...also stands for many other things I'm not going to mention :P
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Post by: d0minicz on June 12, 2009, 12:16:01 am
nah he wrote VCCA
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Post by: cdjm92 on June 12, 2009, 12:18:26 am
Ah...right...
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Post by: TrueTears on June 12, 2009, 12:29:50 am
nah he wrote VCCA
I think he means VCAA :P
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Post by: cdjm92 on June 12, 2009, 12:35:05 am
I'll have a gue
nah he wrote VCCA
I think he means VCAA :P


lol:), i didnt even see that.....oops :-[
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Post by: gfb on June 12, 2009, 09:38:44 am
How the hell did you have time to do that goodguys?

He's a chem failure like me. That's how ;). LOL
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Post by: gfb on June 12, 2009, 09:41:02 am
That was such a hard exam, i doubt anyone will get FULL MARKS.

There will be heaps that will get full marks. My friend did ;).