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VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: jess3254 on June 10, 2009, 06:09:29 pm

Title: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: jess3254 on June 10, 2009, 06:09:29 pm
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Since the late 1990s each state (except Queensland) has used a common measure to rank Year 12 students for university admission.  In each state this measure has had different names:

*   ENTER (Equivalent National Tertiary Entrance Rank) in Victoria

*   TER (Tertiary Entrance Rank) in Western Australia, Northern Territory, South Australia and Tasmania

*   UAI (Universities Admission Index) in New South Wales and the Australian Capital Territory

The Australasian Conference of Tertiary Admissions Centres (ACTAC), of which the Victorian Tertiary Admissions Centre (VTAC) is a member, has agreed that all states and territories (except Queensland) will replace these different names with a common name, the Australian Tertiary Admission Rank (ATAR), during 2009 and 2010.

In Victoria the term ENTER will be replaced with the term ATAR in 2010. This is a name change only. There is no change to the calculation and it will have no effect on students’ ranking or the selection process.

The adoption by all states and territories (except Queensland) of the name Australian Tertiary Admission Rank (ATAR) over the 2009 and 2010 period reinforces that the measures of overall achievement of Year 12 students in these states are the same.


How lovely.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: dcc on June 10, 2009, 06:17:02 pm
now we can K-ATAR for the differences between the states. 

See you L-ATAR.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: transgression on June 10, 2009, 06:18:35 pm
LOL
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: Toothpaste on June 10, 2009, 06:19:27 pm
LOL

That haha.

THIS IS SP-ATAR
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: Gloamglozer on June 10, 2009, 07:05:55 pm
I just did a little bit of Googling and along with jessie's e-mail I've got a bit of evidence to support this.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: Toothpaste on June 10, 2009, 07:13:13 pm
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,25611376-12332,00.html
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: squance on June 10, 2009, 08:14:08 pm
THATS SO FUNNY.

ATAR sounds so cool.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: paulii on June 10, 2009, 08:19:56 pm
can someone just sum up why they have changed it from ENTER to ATAR in all states now xcept qld?
brain dead and major cbf reading atm
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: enwiabe on June 10, 2009, 08:28:35 pm
haha, the new name is ATAR-ocious
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: Glockmeister on June 10, 2009, 08:30:36 pm
can someone just sum up why they have changed it from ENTER to ATAR in all states now xcept qld?
brain dead and major cbf reading atm

Queensland has a completely different scoring system from the rest of Australia that makes it hard to change.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: ming_mong on June 10, 2009, 08:30:58 pm
hmm.. i wonder what my "ATAR" would have been with my "ENTER"
lol
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: costargh on June 10, 2009, 08:52:12 pm
ENTER just makes so much more sense... it's like a pun or something isn't it? (Cause its a score used to ENTER uni?... thats what iv always thought LMAO)

and yes i obviously do realise its an acronym.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: shinny on June 10, 2009, 09:10:17 pm
hmm.. i wonder what my "ATAR" would have been with my "ENTER"
lol

It would have stayed the same. Everyone's would. It's just a name change >_>
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: mtwtfss on June 10, 2009, 09:24:58 pm
can someone just sum up why they have changed it from ENTER to ATAR in all states now xcept qld?
brain dead and major cbf reading atm

Their system is quite different, involving no external examinations i.e. what we just did in the past 2 days, they don't do.
Its all in house SAC style testing.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: appianway on June 10, 2009, 09:30:56 pm
Will the ATAR be out of 100 or 99.95?
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: jess3254 on June 10, 2009, 09:31:54 pm
99.95
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on June 10, 2009, 09:34:39 pm
Will the ATAR be out of 100 or 99.95?
99.95
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: appianway on June 10, 2009, 09:36:56 pm
Hmm, that makes it somewhat strange. After all, the UAI's out of 100, so students in the top 0.05% in Victoria would be given scores equal to students in the top 0.1% in NSW..
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: jess3254 on June 10, 2009, 09:46:03 pm
Nah they're just changing the name at the moment. This is just prior to the implementation of the Australian Certificate of Education
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: kurrymuncher on June 10, 2009, 09:47:35 pm
Hmm, that makes it somewhat strange. After all, the UAI's out of 100, so students in the top 0.05% in Victoria would be given scores equal to students in the top 0.1% in NSW..

They announced that the maximum UAI will be changed to 99.95.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: champorado on June 10, 2009, 10:34:47 pm
"Achieving an ATAR of 99.95 will be the same as achieving a UAI of 100 and the ATAR will indicate a student's position in relation to the year 7 students they began high school with, rather than the year 10 group, as has been the case."

I don't quite understand this.

Also, is it pronounced Ah-tar (like star) or Ay-ter (like circular)? Or is it an either/or thing for maximum pun-age?

Nah they're just changing the name at the moment. This is just prior to the implementation of the Australian Certificate of Education
That's ace.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: Edmund on June 10, 2009, 10:40:57 pm
Will the ATAR be out of 100 or 99.95?
They said only the name changes
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: costargh on June 10, 2009, 10:52:13 pm
If only the name changes, that's stupid.

That mean's that the highest possible ATAR will always be higher in NSW (100) than VIC (99.95). :S
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: kurrymuncher on June 10, 2009, 11:11:56 pm
If only the name changes, that's stupid.

That mean's that the highest possible ATAR will always be higher in NSW (100) than VIC (99.95). :S

Theyre changing the whole "I got a 100" thing in NSW, theyre moving down to 99.95. Well, thats what the guy on 774 said =/
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: /0 on June 11, 2009, 02:48:53 pm
What a stupid name. At least ENTER means something
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: wombifat on June 11, 2009, 06:22:36 pm
ENTER sounds waaay better
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: jess3254 on June 11, 2009, 09:10:26 pm
It does.

"What's your AH-TAR?"

doesn't sound right does it
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: Davoo! on June 16, 2009, 10:50:49 pm
Haha this is hilarious.

ATAR Score =D Gonna take a while to get used to.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: Noblesse on June 17, 2009, 05:26:11 pm
lol in that ATAR pronunciation thread, the second poster's signature is hilarious:

"My math teacher staples burger king applications to failed tests."
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: ReVeL on June 18, 2009, 12:23:18 pm
ENTER just makes so much more sense... it's like a pun or something isn't it? (Cause its a score used to ENTER uni?... thats what iv always thought LMAO)

and yes i obviously do realise its an acronym.

All those years ago when I first heard the term ENTER I also thought of this. It's logical. ENTER = A score to get entry to University. It makes sense even before you find out its an acronym.

ATAR.. just doesn't sit right with me. Sounds like an Arabic city or something.

lol in that ATAR pronunciation thread, the second poster's signature is hilarious:

"My math teacher staples burger king applications to failed tests."

That is goldddd.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: Noblesse on June 18, 2009, 12:47:53 pm
Well technically the UAI also gets you into TAFE, which is a tertiary institution. So Australian Tertiary Admission Rank is more PC I guess.

EDIT: whoops I meant UAI not ENTER :P
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: mystikal on June 18, 2009, 08:37:40 pm
Lols looks like danial15 (i think thats right?) has to change the enter calculator to the ATAR calculator  :P
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: Fyrefly on June 19, 2009, 12:52:30 pm

Aye-TAR sounds better than Ah-TAR @ least (imo...)

Regardless, the idiot who thought it up is an Ah-TARd.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: spesh-gun on June 19, 2009, 01:19:44 pm
haha, the new name is ATAR-ocious

shit joke
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: Fyrefly on June 19, 2009, 09:49:09 pm
haha, the new name is ATAR-ocious

shit joke

Lol!

Aww... *Pat pats Admin*
It's ok... mine was much worse.
Title: Re: The ENTER is changing its name
Post by: midas_touch on June 19, 2009, 11:09:49 pm
Sounds Atarded.

edit: damn you firefly!