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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: sadboy222 on March 07, 2013, 08:57:12 pm

Title: So how do you study?
Post by: sadboy222 on March 07, 2013, 08:57:12 pm
So ive gone to my lectures and been to 1 tute so far and the lecturers/teachers/whatever you call them haven't really given us homework?

Should you be doing your own notes from the powerpoint. i was thinking of doing that.

but how do you know if they are even on the exam/ you need to know?
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Post by: Inside Out on March 07, 2013, 09:04:39 pm
^ in addition to his questions are those Scify face to face sessions particularly helpful?and what's more beneficial- annotating printed out lecture notes like sadboy said or just taking notes yourself in lectures? And do we really need those textbooks for chem and bio? Where do we get practice questions for chem and bio from like in calculus 2?
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Post by: simpak on March 07, 2013, 09:10:35 pm
You will very rarely get homework for uni, only if it's like CALs for marks or something in which case they're not really homework but just like, extra shit they make you learn outside of class and then test you on.

You need to find something that works for you!  Everything is self directed, you get to choose how much/how little you do.  After I listen to my lectures I write summaries which compile the readings (so yes I would say buying the textbook might be a start) and the content of the lecture in my own words.  An hour of lecture time --> three hours worth of summarising.  I'm a pretty excessive person.  Then before I test I resummarise that information by hand.  Additionally, you can pull questions out of your textbooks.  Eg for chemistry, they might not give you problems outside of your tute problems but you can find problems relating to the topic you're learning by looking in the book or even just googling stuff like, even sparknotes has problems in their tutorials.

I always take my own notes on my laptop rather than write on slides because I find I get a lot more out of it but that's mostly attributed to my preference in learning style; I find it a lot easier to learn if I am writing things as I am listening to them rather than just tuning in and writing a couple of words or highlighting something now and again.  Everything passes right over my head if I do the latter.  But for something like chemistry I usually use the slides because it's too difficult to use a computer to draw molecules and reactions :3  A lot of people find slide annotation more effective though because it lets them listen to the lecturer 'better'.  What I do almost mirrors dictation at times and people find it weird.
Title: Re: So how do you study?
Post by: sadboy222 on March 07, 2013, 09:26:13 pm
You will very rarely get homework for uni, only if it's like CALs for marks or something in which case they're not really homework but just like, extra shit they make you learn outside of class and then test you on.

You need to find something that works for you!  Everything is self directed, you get to choose how much/how little you do.  After I listen to my lectures I write summaries which compile the readings (so yes I would say buying the textbook might be a start) and the content of the lecture in my own words.  An hour of lecture time --> three hours worth of summarising.  I'm a pretty excessive person.  Then before I test I resummarise that information by hand.  Additionally, you can pull questions out of your textbooks.  Eg for chemistry, they might not give you problems outside of your tute problems but you can find problems relating to the topic you're learning by looking in the book or even just googling stuff like, even sparknotes has problems in their tutorials.

I always take my own notes on my laptop rather than write on slides because I find I get a lot more out of it but that's mostly attributed to my preference in learning style; I find it a lot easier to learn if I am writing things as I am listening to them rather than just tuning in and writing a couple of words or highlighting something now and again.  Everything passes right over my head if I do the latter.  But for something like chemistry I usually use the slides because it's too difficult to use a computer to draw molecules and reactions :3  A lot of people find slide annotation more effective though because it lets them listen to the lecturer 'better'.  What I do almost mirrors dictation at times and people find it weird.

thanks for the response

ill buy you an ice cream at union house
Title: Re: So how do you study?
Post by: simpak on March 07, 2013, 09:31:57 pm
I'd rather chop off my nose than set foot in union house but that's so kind of you :)
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Post by: ferrsal on March 07, 2013, 10:18:05 pm
I'd rather chop off my nose than set foot in union house but that's so kind of you :)

Haha why is that?
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Post by: simpak on March 07, 2013, 10:22:51 pm
Overpopulation, bad food etc.
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Post by: jinny1 on March 07, 2013, 10:24:19 pm
Overpopulation, bad food etc.

Where's a good place to get good food????
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Post by: Hancock on March 07, 2013, 10:43:00 pm
Off Campus is the best bet. Cheaper and more variety at places like Melbourne Central.
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Post by: simpak on March 07, 2013, 11:26:33 pm
Even cafes on campus are better than union house I find, often you can actually sit down omg.  But yeah off campus is best.
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Post by: Inside Out on March 08, 2013, 09:32:53 am
Theres kfc right next door. Thank god
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Post by: HighLatency on March 08, 2013, 01:44:25 pm
Overpopulation, bad food etc.

We asians like to bring a little bit of home with us when we come to UoM :)
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Post by: Hancock on March 08, 2013, 03:26:10 pm
It's not really the food that's the issue, it's the prices and the mass amounts of people that crowd Union House.
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Post by: John President on March 08, 2013, 03:51:21 pm
I find the smell of Union House the most off-putting thing about it. I find the beanbags the most enticing thing.

Additionally, make use of the resources on the LMS and in the library. If you don't want to make the large financial leap of buying a textbook, check them out in the library first before making a decision. Look for quality practice problems. Find a friend/friends in your class to bounce ideas off/discuss things with if you're struggling with a concept. But still, don't let study overpower your world. Go out with friends, relax, keep yourself sane. Balance your study with your social life.

A friend posted a blog entry that I think is relevant: http://calnewport.com/blog/2011/11/11/if-youre-busy-youre-doing-something-wrong-the-surprisingly-relaxed-lives-of-elite-achievers/
Title: Re: So how do you study?
Post by: MJRomeo81 on March 08, 2013, 03:59:12 pm
A friend posted a blog entry that I think is relevant: http://calnewport.com/blog/2011/11/11/if-youre-busy-youre-doing-something-wrong-the-surprisingly-relaxed-lives-of-elite-achievers/

I've been reading Study Hacks for a few years now and it's brilliant :D
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Post by: Inside Out on March 08, 2013, 04:06:43 pm
Speaking of relaxing... Why are melb uni sport clubs so much more expensive than monash?!
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Post by: AllAboutTheLGs on March 08, 2013, 07:59:00 pm
HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE EGG :(
Title: Re: So how do you study?
Post by: simpak on March 08, 2013, 09:42:13 pm
HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE EGG :(

No I do like Egg that's like the only place I go in Union House!