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Title: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: methodsboy on June 17, 2009, 11:48:57 am
well?
hows everyone going so far?
i got 92% in SAC 1 (website development)
       94% in SAC 2 (databases)
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: Kairubin on June 17, 2009, 07:23:49 pm
i might just add here that sacs really do mean jack in ITA. so long as you're above the average in your class anything can happen. Make sure you know more on the theory side! If anyone has looked at last years exam you will see the extent of the horribleness of ITA last year. But apart from that I wish all you guys the best of luck and a 'fun' semester two!
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: methodsboy on June 17, 2009, 07:26:35 pm
but each unit is worth 25% each. when combined, it's effectively 50% of ur SS.
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on June 17, 2009, 10:00:15 pm
90% for data base
98% for website development (lost a mark on contraints. i  only mentioned 2 instead of 3.. (was out of 3 marks) . :(

the next outcome on spreadsheets yeh? harder than other 2 outcomes or?
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on June 17, 2009, 10:47:36 pm
90% for data base
98% for website development (lost a mark on contraints. i  only mentioned 2 instead of 3.. (was out of 3 marks) . :(

the next outcome on spreadsheets yeh? harder than other 2 outcomes or?

I reckon database was the hardest (Although some formulas, such as complicated tax brackets, can be a bitch in Excel). Although I did worse on the last outcome =[
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: methodsboy on June 18, 2009, 03:10:16 pm
^ they say that databases is the hardest. but excel is the longest
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: cobby on June 18, 2009, 04:38:23 pm
^ they say that databases is the hardest. but excel is the longest

Excel seems to be pretty complicated for me at the moment :(
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: Vadnal on June 18, 2009, 06:47:04 pm
two 77%'s
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: methodsboy on June 18, 2009, 06:49:50 pm
two 77%'s
what SS are you aiming for?
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on June 18, 2009, 10:45:13 pm
ahh well just spoke to i.t. teacher, he believes all equally the same, though i will probably struggle with rememebering some formulas. hopefully i'm all good. if anyone can help me out, what ss would i be looking at with:

u3 o1: 90%
u3 o2: 97-98%

u4 o1: 95-100%   (predicted)
u4 o2: 97-100%   (predicted)

exams= A+

Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: cobby on June 18, 2009, 11:05:15 pm
ahh well just spoke to i.t. teacher, he believes all equally the same, though i will probably struggle with rememebering some formulas. hopefully i'm all good. if anyone can help me out, what ss would i be looking at with:

u3 o1: 90%
u3 o2: 97-98%

u4 o1: 95-100%   (predicted)
u4 o2: 97-100%   (predicted)

exams= A+



45+ Assuming you meant a High A+ for the exam.
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: Glockmeister on June 19, 2009, 05:18:06 pm
ahh well just spoke to i.t. teacher, he believes all equally the same, though i will probably struggle with rememebering some formulas. hopefully i'm all good. if anyone can help me out, what ss would i be looking at with:

u3 o1: 90%
u3 o2: 97-98%

u4 o1: 95-100%   (predicted)
u4 o2: 97-100%   (predicted)

exams= A+



Again, it depends where you rank within your cohort, and how your cohort in general ranks against the state.

I'm going to say it to everyone here, but raw scores mean bugger all in terms of calculating your study score. It's the ranking that counts.
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: Vadnal on June 20, 2009, 09:40:17 pm
two 77%'s
what SS are you aiming for?

Mid 30 to high 30's, although I have a 2 chapter SAC coming up after the holidays, which I'm going for A+
Is it still possible for me to hit 40?
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: methodsboy on June 20, 2009, 09:43:19 pm
two 77%'s
what SS are you aiming for?

Mid 30 to high 30's, although I have a 2 chapter SAC coming up after the holidays, which I'm going for A+
Is it still possible for me to hit 40?
just gun ur exam. It's possible to get an A+. Even though DB SAC is considered the hardest, i got higher in it than website dev. To get 40+, you need A+,A+,A+ - which means that you must have an A+ unit 3 SAC average, hence an A+ in the DB SAC....unless you get like 100% in the exam.
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: methodsboy on June 20, 2009, 09:47:45 pm
ahh well just spoke to i.t. teacher, he believes all equally the same, though i will probably struggle with rememebering some formulas. hopefully i'm all good. if anyone can help me out, what ss would i be looking at with:

u3 o1: 90%
u3 o2: 97-98%

u4 o1: 95-100%   (predicted)
u4 o2: 97-100%   (predicted)

exams= A+


depends on your exam result:
a high A+ would yield : 47+
mid A+ would yield: 44-47
low A+ would yield : 40-43
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: Vadnal on June 21, 2009, 12:16:08 pm
Yeah I've already done database and website sac.
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on June 22, 2009, 12:56:13 am
ah im finding spreadsheets not the easier task. just the formulas. there is not much in the ita book about them. any good study tips for it or?
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on September 01, 2009, 02:42:40 am
unit 4 outcome 2 = 78/80 marks (97.5%).. 58.5/60 unit 4 marks.   mm im happy but wondering where i lost the marks :S  lol. just did last yr exam and only got 81% LOL.. better pick up my game.. anyone else got spreadsheet sac result back? thanks all for ur help and hints and all :) highly appreciated.. goodluck everyone
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: danieltennis on September 01, 2009, 02:47:35 am
Our class just finished the U401 SAC and we're preparing for the outcome 2 SAC

Btw, nice SAC marks you have there
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on September 02, 2009, 12:23:52 am
ah yeah? how did u find u4o1?   (found out i just lost the 2 marks on something simple :S.. i didnt put milestones into the gant chart lol) ahwell.. so going all the legislations, ethics and stuff like that now?

and thankyou :) how has ur progress been if u dont mind.. pleased so far?
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on September 18, 2009, 04:04:31 pm
:). 27/28 for outcome 2 unit 4..  38.5 marks.. brings it to 97/100 marks :) :D unit 4.. sry excited lol
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: methodsboy on September 18, 2009, 08:16:21 pm
:). 27/28 for outcome 2 unit 4..  38.5 marks.. brings it to 97/100 marks :) :D unit 4.. sry excited lol
haha congrats! finally, those tedious but sort of fun SACs are over!  :) /  :(
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on September 18, 2009, 08:56:31 pm
hehe i know, and thankyou. now the exams :S lol should be alright :)
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: methodsboy on September 18, 2009, 09:01:45 pm
^ how many trials have u done for apps so far?
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on September 21, 2009, 02:21:22 pm
trial exams.. only 2. 3 multiple choice though.
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: Potter on September 26, 2009, 02:08:20 pm
Hey guys,

I think the best sac was excel tbh. All the other ones were so boring.. -=\.

U4O1 Website- A+(100%)
U4O2 Access- A(85-89)
U4O3 Excel- A+(94%)
U4O4 ethics/disposal of data thingy - A+(95%-100%)

Pretty happy with my Sacs.. Access was lame though. Never want to touch that program again!

Hoping to get over 45. Best of luck to everyone!
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on September 26, 2009, 11:47:38 pm
well done :) there fairly impressive. i performed badly on access aswell. 90%..

what percentage u looking at for ur exam?

i enjoyed the website, well tbh i didnt mind any of them, besides access i didn't like.. i love networks lol so anything relating to that :).

Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: danieltennis on September 27, 2009, 12:06:09 am
Our teacher still hasn't given back our Unit 4 SACs...
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on September 27, 2009, 01:23:34 am
lets hope it is worth the wait for u when u get back to school :) all the best.

anyone know the chances of me getting 45+   

if i'm averaging overall 95% .. and get around 90%-95% for the exam..

llast year the SD was 30 (i know huge) but with a A+ been giving for 75%+
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: danieltennis on September 27, 2009, 01:40:26 am
haha yeah we might get it back tommorow :p

If the stats for last year was similar to this year, with those marks you can achieve roughly 47-48ish. I know a few people last year who lost quite a decent amount of marks(10-13) in the exam and they still obtained a SS of 48+, but got almost full SAC marks
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on September 27, 2009, 02:25:17 am
are u serious :S they lost that many and still managed that :D.. im hoping for the best :D lol. well i lost a fair few marks in unit 3. i think i lost 6.5-7.. probly will come back to me when i get my SS.. and lost 3 in unit 4, which not too bad.. now lets find out u have only losed a few marks for unit 3. so we can get that 50 together haha :p jokes, but we can try.. we'll set up those posts soon ay. nif u havnt done so alrdy lol i havnt checked.
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: ell on September 27, 2009, 07:33:50 pm
I lost 12 marks (ordered a SoM) and got 49, so yeah not competitive at all. Don't let that be a reason to relax though! You'll find that the majority of marks lost are from carelessness.
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on September 27, 2009, 07:41:30 pm
thanks mate and weel done on that SS.. assuming u were very pleased with it :).. nah it won't be a reason. what areas did u struggle in with last years exam if  dont mind me asking?
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: ell on September 27, 2009, 08:12:08 pm
99% of my marks lost were lost from careless errors (e.g. I wrote "Health Records Act" instead of "Health Records Act 2001") so I don't think there's really one clear area where I struggled, it was kind of spread across.
The other 1% of marks lost were due to ambiguous VCAA questions (any ITA '08ers remember that "write a question the parents could ask" question?).
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: danieltennis on September 27, 2009, 08:24:58 pm
99% of my marks lost were lost from careless errors (e.g. I wrote "Health Records Act" instead of "Health Records Act 2001") so I don't think there's really one clear area where I struggled, it was kind of spread across.
The other 1% of marks lost were due to ambiguous VCAA questions (any ITA '08ers remember that "write a question the parents could ask" question?).

How many marks did the examiners take off for not having '2001'?

Never knew the markers were that fussy. Thanks for the tip
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: ell on September 27, 2009, 08:31:36 pm
How many marks did the examiners take off for not having '2001'?

Never knew the markers were that fussy. Thanks for the tip

It was only worth 1 mark, so I didn't get the mark at all.
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on September 27, 2009, 08:49:09 pm
lol are u serious.. beh thats dodgy.
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: methodsboy on September 29, 2009, 12:47:17 pm
How many marks did the examiners take off for not having '2001'?

Never knew the markers were that fussy. Thanks for the tip

It was only worth 1 mark, so I didn't get the mark at all.
what were your SAC marks?
do u think:
Unit 3 - 94%
Unit 4 - 92%
Exam - 87% (mid A+) would get me 45?
#Assume 08 distributions
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on September 29, 2009, 01:46:10 pm
i would assume so, from results i've heart..

my mate got a 42 with..

A   A   A+

note that the first A, got ranked up, it was a B+.. not sure how well he did in the exam, but assuming was mid, which is what ur looking at, or a bit higher, i reckon u would get that, if not higher. but then again, another opinion would be greatly appreciated..
also for myself if someone has time. i wanna get above 45, but not sure if i'm being too realistic.. i really want 50. (would be very nice)

A+ (93-94%)
A+ (97%)
A) (92+%)

1st in cohort, not sure if matters, my cohort only made up of 8 students, one just passing, but the rest are averaging A's beside one on A+'s. I expect everyone beside the one to get equal or above an B+
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: danieltennis on September 29, 2009, 02:06:32 pm
i would assume so, from results i've heart..

my mate got a 42 with..

A   A   A+

note that the first A, got ranked up, it was a B+.. not sure how well he did in the exam, but assuming was mid, which is what ur looking at, or a bit higher, i reckon u would get that, if not higher. but then again, another opinion would be greatly appreciated..
also for myself if someone has time. i wanna get above 45, but not sure if i'm being too realistic.. i really want 50. (would be very nice)

A+ (93-94%)
A+ (97%)
A) (92+%)

1st in cohort, not sure if matters, my cohort only made up of 8 students, one just passing, but the rest are averaging A's beside one on A+'s. I expect everyone beside the one to get equal or above an B+

I would say very high 40s i.e +48 (basing on last years stats)
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: Vadnal on October 09, 2009, 06:53:22 pm
I have an 80% average for all sacs, what would a low-mid A+ yield ?
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on October 09, 2009, 08:20:10 pm
I have an 80% average for all sacs, what would a low-mid A+ yield ?

check your personal messages mate :D
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: methodsboy on October 09, 2009, 09:59:16 pm
i would assume so, from results i've heart..

my mate got a 42 with..

A   A   A+

im still in shock about that  :D
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: methodsboy on October 11, 2009, 10:57:27 am
WTH?! i just used Mao's GA estimator and it said that to get 44 raw, you need your SACs to be like 97% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on October 11, 2009, 10:58:56 am
WTH?! i just used Mao's GA estimator and it said that to get 44 raw, you need your SACs to be like 97% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it lied to you D:
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: methodsboy on October 11, 2009, 11:01:23 am
^i really hope i get at least 44 raw :(
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: Vadnal on October 11, 2009, 04:59:17 pm
How you been going in chem methodsboy?
Title: Re: IT- Applications SAC progress
Post by: billz1508 on October 11, 2009, 06:14:28 pm
WTH?! i just used Mao's GA estimator and it said that to get 44 raw, you need your SACs to be like 97% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


lol wat was the min and max.. u know i.t. is not as competitive. i wouldnt really use this as an indicator..