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Administration => Announcements => Topic started by: ninwa on May 28, 2013, 04:33:58 pm

Title: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: ninwa on May 28, 2013, 04:33:58 pm
Dunno how many of you guys subscribe to the HS, but here's a high resolution image of our schmexy enwiabe:

(http://i.imgur.com/0FGYa1k.jpg)
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: pi on May 28, 2013, 04:34:49 pm
Congrats guys, finally the recognition this place deserves (we actually deserve more!) :)
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: Will Sparks on May 28, 2013, 04:38:02 pm
Congratulations!

ATARnotes deserves a mention in the paper, and it's a good thing too.

I didn't find out about this site until a few months ago because no one really knows about it! But it's been a great source of information and entertainment for me ever since I signed up, hopefully this'll allow more people to find out about ATARnotes and join in!

Keep it up AN, great job.
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: jeanweasley on May 28, 2013, 05:10:34 pm
Congrats!
What an achievement. :D
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: eeps on May 28, 2013, 05:28:44 pm
That colour coordination.
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: pi on May 28, 2013, 05:31:03 pm
That colour coordination.

That combed hair.
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: eeps on May 28, 2013, 05:47:42 pm
Was it a chilly day when the photo was taken? Pls don't hate me.

In all seriousness though, congrats!
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: tao on May 28, 2013, 05:48:06 pm
If you guys gambled, you could revolutionize the way education is delivered in Australia and indeed the world.
Personally, I understand you guys make some money from selling books, UMAT prep etc but realistically, this is a pittance comparing to the effect you could have. If I were in your shoes I'd take this to the next level. I mean, vce study guides with real value and a valued UMAT package are a good idea, but they are really just improving on what is currently on the market, it's not taking a quantum leap to the next level. I would take the aim of creating a resource such that a student is better off using your website rather than going to class.
I would:

-Find extremely good VCE teachers per subject and pay them as much as possible to record khanacademy style explanations of every topic, all in beautiful HD and beautiful interface.
-Create interactive worksheets, there are some really interesting styles of worksheets on coursera, ones that interactively respond to your answer and direct you to relevant theory that you miss.
-Create a bank of questions, from previous students and encourage students to ask questions and frequently possible on this bank. There is only a finite amount of problems one can have with a vce subject ,eventually, you'd have the majority of possible questions asked and the majority of questions couold be solved by working in this bank.

You guys have done a great job, no doubt, but until now you have not revolutionized education in Victoria, you have helped a bunch of people sure, but it's not a revolution until you offer something truly novel, a forum and good-valued study guides are just the start of what this could become.

The current model of education is still go to class, learn from the teacher, do the textbook problems. There are two main problems with this, the first is that the teacher might not be very good, the second is that the textbook problems are the same for every student, they don't gradually increment if the student is weak or rapidly increment if the student is strong. Record an excellent teacher and you have the first part done, create digital 'intelligent' worksheets for the second and you solve the second problem. Another issue is that in a class-room, you progress at the same rate for the whole class, if there are 20 people in the class  and 15 get 90%+, that's still 5 people with a gap in the knowledge, why move on? This is detrimental, another problem that can be solved with the worksheet directing students to relevant theory.

I mean, I'm not knocking you guys at all, you've done fantastically, but it is just the beginning if you do it right.
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: brenden on May 28, 2013, 05:51:18 pm
Fuck yes :D. I love ATARNotes.
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: ninwa on May 29, 2013, 01:08:01 am
thanks David

(http://i.imgur.com/HnKPuQj.jpg)
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: pi on May 29, 2013, 08:25:56 am
thanks David

(http://i.imgur.com/HnKPuQj.jpg)

Can we make this enwiabe's forum dp?


edit: don't ban me plz :P taking one for the team here
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: DavidB3ck on May 29, 2013, 07:07:39 pm
thanks David

(http://i.imgur.com/HnKPuQj.jpg)

Any time.
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: enwiabe on May 30, 2013, 12:25:59 pm
If you guys gambled, you could revolutionize the way education is delivered in Australia and indeed the world.
Personally, I understand you guys make some money from selling books, UMAT prep etc but realistically, this is a pittance comparing to the effect you could have. If I were in your shoes I'd take this to the next level. I mean, vce study guides with real value and a valued UMAT package are a good idea, but they are really just improving on what is currently on the market, it's not taking a quantum leap to the next level. I would take the aim of creating a resource such that a student is better off using your website rather than going to class.
I would:

-Find extremely good VCE teachers per subject and pay them as much as possible to record khanacademy style explanations of every topic, all in beautiful HD and beautiful interface.
-Create interactive worksheets, there are some really interesting styles of worksheets on coursera, ones that interactively respond to your answer and direct you to relevant theory that you miss.
-Create a bank of questions, from previous students and encourage students to ask questions and frequently possible on this bank. There is only a finite amount of problems one can have with a vce subject ,eventually, you'd have the majority of possible questions asked and the majority of questions couold be solved by working in this bank.

You guys have done a great job, no doubt, but until now you have not revolutionized education in Victoria, you have helped a bunch of people sure, but it's not a revolution until you offer something truly novel, a forum and good-valued study guides are just the start of what this could become.

The current model of education is still go to class, learn from the teacher, do the textbook problems. There are two main problems with this, the first is that the teacher might not be very good, the second is that the textbook problems are the same for every student, they don't gradually increment if the student is weak or rapidly increment if the student is strong. Record an excellent teacher and you have the first part done, create digital 'intelligent' worksheets for the second and you solve the second problem. Another issue is that in a class-room, you progress at the same rate for the whole class, if there are 20 people in the class  and 15 get 90%+, that's still 5 people with a gap in the knowledge, why move on? This is detrimental, another problem that can be solved with the worksheet directing students to relevant theory.

I mean, I'm not knocking you guys at all, you've done fantastically, but it is just the beginning if you do it right.

I don't want you getting a big head when we actually implement some of these things, but it's already in the works :P

I think for online worksheets, the technology still needs to catch up to the efficiency and ease of pen and paper. For Maths/Science at least. My own experience (and that of peers) with computer testing programs like MasteringPhysics(and Chem and Bio) is that they're vastly frustrating.

Once tablet paper becomes a thing, you'll probably see everything move paperless.
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: Markkiieee on May 30, 2013, 04:58:24 pm
Boss(s) :D
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: Alwin on May 31, 2013, 10:50:39 pm
Congrats! But..just wondering, is it true that:

"We have a strict rule: content providers must be under 25. Our guiding principle is youth empowering the youth..." [6th paragraph]

Is that study notes or forum members too o.O I think I saw a teacher posting on here once lol
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: Eugenet17 on May 31, 2013, 10:57:14 pm
Congrats! But..just wondering, is it true that:

"We have a strict rule: content providers must be under 25. Our guiding principle is youth empowering the youth..." [6th paragraph]

Is that study notes or forum members too o.O I think I saw a teacher posting on here once lol

probs study notes providers, can't imagine an age requirement for signing up on a forum haha
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: brenden on May 31, 2013, 11:01:32 pm
Teachers and parents are definitely able to post on the forums, but none of the book authors are older than 25. In fact, I'd say enwiabe is the oldest author (that I know of), and I think he's 23.
Title: Re: ATAR Notes in the Herald Sun!
Post by: pi on May 31, 2013, 11:02:42 pm
Congrats! But..just wondering, is it true that:

"We have a strict rule: content providers must be under 25. Our guiding principle is youth empowering the youth..." [6th paragraph]

Is that study notes or forum members too o.O I think I saw a teacher posting on here once lol

Yeah it's only book authors.