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Title: VCAA question
Post by: Snorlax on August 19, 2013, 06:14:23 pm
I'm really confused about this question that I recently saw on the 2010 past paper.
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/exams/biology/2010biology2-w.pdf
Q3, of Multiple choice.
Could someone go through this?

You can obviously reduce the options to either A or D, but why is the correct answer D?
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: psyxwar on August 19, 2013, 06:41:26 pm
Mitochondrial DNA is inherited maternally.
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: Stick on August 19, 2013, 06:41:48 pm
Mitochondrial DNA is always inherited from the mother.

EDIT: beaten XD
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: Snorlax on August 19, 2013, 06:50:48 pm
waitwut?
This is the first time i'v heard of this. Is this in our course?
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: psyxwar on August 19, 2013, 06:55:11 pm
Probably, it certainly is assumed knowledge if VCAA expected you to know it. It's in the textbook I use (NOB) at least.
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: Snorlax on August 19, 2013, 06:56:08 pm
Really?
What topic were you introduced to this in?
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: pi on August 19, 2013, 07:11:23 pm
This is definitely in the course.

It occurs because during fertilisation, only the genetic material (the 'pronucleus') of the sperm really enter the egg, the tail and the mitochondria (yes, sperm have mitochondria which they use to move with along with other factors) are degenerated. This means that the zygote only has mitochondria from the ovum, which we know is from the mother :) Hence, all mtDNA is from the mother!
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: Snorlax on August 19, 2013, 07:38:12 pm
I'm honestly so confused right now :-[
I'll have a look through my textbook/teachers sometime this week. damn.
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: simpak on August 19, 2013, 07:39:45 pm
Which part is confusing you?  The only part you need to know is that mtDNA is inherited from the mother, which you know now.  No need to go back through the textbook :)
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: Snorlax on August 19, 2013, 07:46:39 pm
But now it seems like I might be lacking a lot more detail in my studies!
Like to me, knowing mtDNA is inherited maternally is quite specific, and not sure if I'm confident in the other aspects too...If that made any sense :)
So far in the course, mtDNA hasn't been covered in my class into specifics - such as it being inherited from the mother, so I'v either missed it, or it's been skipped. idunno. I'll ask my teacher

P.S
Found another question about mtDNA in the 2008 paper. Shows the relative importance :)

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: simpak on August 19, 2013, 08:08:32 pm
The only other thing you might like to know about mtDNA is that it can be used to date old evolutionary relationships.
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: Snorlax on August 19, 2013, 08:37:42 pm
Yeh, I saw that briefly in a handout.


I'v got another question I don't understand about restriction enzymes.
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/exams/biology/2008biol2-w.pdf
Multiple choice, Q20, I don't understand.
I guess I don't understand the concept of the restriction enzymes and the cuts.

Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: swagsxcboi on August 19, 2013, 08:52:18 pm
Yeh, I saw that briefly in a handout.


I'v got another question I don't understand about restriction enzymes.
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/exams/biology/2008biol2-w.pdf
Multiple choice, Q20, I don't understand.
I guess I don't understand the concept of the restriction enzymes and the cuts.

The answer is C
Restriction enzymes may be found within bacteria and they act as a defence mechanism, digesting viral DNA or RNA at a specific nucleotide sequence. EcoR1 = obtained from E.Coli bacteria
A restriction enzyme will 'digest' (cut) the phosphodiester bonds that form the phosphate-sugar backbone of DNA. As a result, the hydrogen bonds (weak) between the bases will also be broken.
Since we know that EcoR1 will only digest that DNA fragment at cutting site Q, we know that the smaller fragment will be 3 kb long.
We also know that BamH1 will only digest that DNA fragment at cutting site P, and that means the smaller fragment will be 2 kb long.
With this knowledge, we know that if both enzymes are added, the DNA fragment will be digested into 3 pieces. The total length of the DNA strand is 10kb. Thus, 2kb, 3kb and 5kb.
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: vox nihili on August 19, 2013, 08:54:08 pm
I'm honestly so confused right now :-[
I'll have a look through my textbook/teachers sometime this week. damn.
Pi's answer was really good. When a sperm and egg come together, the tail drops off. The head is the only thing that goes in. There are no mitochondria in the head (all the mitochondria are in the tale), therefore, none of the dad's mitochondria get in the zygote. Therefore, the mitochondria all come from mum. Thus the mtDNA all comes from mum.
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: simpak on August 19, 2013, 09:04:52 pm
nonsense come to think of it, I wouldn't worry too much if your teacher hasn't mentioned mtDNA yet - it will probably be covered during evolution because it ties in with the dating thing I said before.  But now you are well equipped to go forth either way.
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: Snorlax on August 19, 2013, 09:07:14 pm
The answer is C
Restriction enzymes may be found within bacteria and they act as a defence mechanism, digesting viral DNA or RNA at a specific nucleotide sequence. EcoR1 = obtained from E.Coli bacteria
A restriction enzyme will 'digest' (cut) the phosphodiester bonds that form the phosphate-sugar backbone of DNA. As a result, the hydrogen bonds (weak) between the bases will also be broken.
Since we know that EcoR1 will only digest that DNA fragment at cutting site Q, we know that the smaller fragment will be 3 kb long.
We also know that BamH1 will only digest that DNA fragment at cutting site P, and that means the smaller fragment will be 2 kb long.
With this knowledge, we know that if both enzymes are added, the DNA fragment will be digested into 3 pieces. The total length of the DNA strand is 10kb. Thus, 2kb, 3kb and 5kb.

So, EcoR1 has 3kb and 7kb lengths of fragments. does this mean: 123.1234567 (. indicate the cut)
and BamH1 has 8kb and 2kb lengths of fragments, so 12345678.12

so together it would be: 123.12345.12?
Is that right?

(i kinda need to visualise it rather just stating it)
Title: Re: VCAA question
Post by: psyxwar on August 19, 2013, 09:34:45 pm
So, EcoR1 has 3kb and 7kb lengths of fragments. does this mean: 123.1234567 (. indicate the cut)
and BamH1 has 8kb and 2kb lengths of fragments, so 12345678.12

so together it would be: 123.12345.12?
Is that right?

(i kinda need to visualise it rather just stating it)
That's right. It's easier to just draw it out, though the answer to this is pretty obvious just from looking at it (has to be B or C, can't be B because the fragment that is 7bp long is digested at site P, meaning it has to be shorter than 7 (you also can't have a fragment smaller than 1bp in length, as the smallest one produced by p digestion isnt digested further). Only C is valid.)