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VCE Stuff => VCE English Studies => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE English & EAL => Topic started by: Thymaster on September 29, 2013, 07:33:28 pm
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Is it possible we might get 2 articles for language analysis?
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Yes.
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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all. These are pretty easy to manage, too - just discuss one article, then the other, then compare and contrast contentions, tones and tone shifts and language etc. etc. between the two like you would if you were given a web article with comments or suchlike.
No big deal :)
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Yes, you can get up to and including 3 pieces to analyse. The Study Design states "Analysing text/s", meaning it could be one or multiple.
Hopefully when you covered Language Analysis, and in the and SAC, you had multiple pieces to analyse. Our issue was on drugs in sport, and for the SAC, we had a seen article (Meaning that we analysed it in class), an unseen article (Never seen before) and a separate visual, totalling 3 pieces to compare and contrast. So hopefully your school did a similar thing to get the practice of it.
It's only happened once in the recent years (In 2011 when VCAA stuffed it up), but don't rule it out that it won't happen again. If you have started doing some Trial Exams, you would have noticed that some have a piece and then have comments from different readers which must also be analysed. If you haven't seen this yet or started doing Trial Exams, then may be find some and practice it.
Rest assured, it is possible to get more than one piece to analyse in our Exam.
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Yes, possible..but not very probable...
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Could be more than 2! Could be one big article plus a few comments, like they did in 2011. Or maybe a few tweets this year? You just never know...
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Yes, possible..but not very probable...
I'm curious, why don't you think so?
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I'm curious, why don't you think so?
I'm guessing that because its only happened once (in 2011) in the past 10 years.
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I'm guessing that because its only happened once (in 2011) in the past 10 years.
Oh, so they normally just stick with one article? Cool, that's awesome. What do you think the possible article could be?
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Oh, so they normally just stick with one article? Cool, that's awesome. What do you think the possible article could be?
NORMALLY - Yes. HOWEVER, VCAA has the power to give us a number of pieces and we are expected to know how to compare and contrast each of them. The Study Design states there COULD be one piece or COULD be "piece/s".
Whilst its only happened once, it doesn't mean that we can rule out that it won't happen again.
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Honestly, I don't think 2011 counts as a "multi-article".
I think it's unlikely for VCAA to give a pure multi-article because it's skew te bell-curve at too far to the left.
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Honestly, I don't think 2011 counts as a "multi-article".
I think it's unlikely for VCAA to give a pure multi-article because it's skew te bell-curve at too far to the left.
How?
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How?
Because it would take the whole state a long time to read 2 pieces, and then everyone would struggle to get it completed, because they would spend a long time reading and trying to compare and contrast, rather than writing their piece. Means that all the High-Scoring range students will drop down and will make it hard for VCAA to rank everyone, if the top students didn't finish either.
Thats why Brencookie is saying everyone (Including the top students) will go below or near the expected score range.
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Yep ^
People aren't well prepared enough to hands two edsays
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Because it would take the whole state a long time to read 2 pieces, and then everyone would struggle to get it completed, because they would spend a long time reading and trying to compare and contrast, rather than writing their piece. Means that all the High-Scoring range students will drop down and will make it hard for VCAA to rank everyone, if the top students didn't finish either.
Thats why Brencookie is saying everyone (Including the top students) will go below or near the expected score range.
Oh. Thanks for the reply.
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prior to the implementation of the new study design in 2008, there were always at least 2 articles to analyse for section C of the exam. My teacher told us that they decided to scrap this in favour of a single article because students were getting away with simply comparing and contrasting the 2 articles provided, rather than going in depth for either article.
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prior to the implementation of the new study design in 2008, there were always at least 2 articles to analyse for section C of the exam. My teacher told us that they decided to scrap this in favour of a single article because students were getting away with simply comparing and contrasting the 2 articles provided, rather than going in depth for either article.
Does the new SD explicitly state that there will only be one article + a visual?
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Does the new SD explicitly state that there will only be one article + a visual?
nope, as mentioned before in this thread, there can be up to 3
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So we should be practicing with only 1 article per essay? Or should we give a go at analysing 2/3 articles per essay (or is this a waste of time)?
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IMO I think it is impractical for VCAA to give 2 full length articles.. it'll take way too long to finish the LA section (unless they give two short-ish articles which is another story...)
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Well we just did the VATE 2013 trial exam today at school and the language analysis had two one-page opinion pieces and an advertisement. Most of us took longer than the hour to get a decent analysis done (it took me 80 minutes so I had to write a fairly mediocre text response in 40 minutes). So, while it is possible to get multiple texts, I think they'd move away from it since it simply takes too long to complete properly. In addition, it's a skill that should have been tested already in a SAC and so it doesn't make complete sense to test it again in the exam. That being said, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to prepare for the worst case scenario nonetheless. Good luck. :)
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There hasn't been two articles under the new study design as of yet (except for those comments in 2011 but I hardly count that). I assume the reason behind this is because with the context section now, there just simply isn't enough time. Before context was there, the persuasive writing piece was meant to be quite short, meaning you had more time to deal with 2 articles in language analysis. With context now there, having two articles is less likely. However, I wouldn't completely rule it out and you should at least have a rough idea of how to deal with multiple articles. Ultimately it's more of a case of being strategically and mentally prepared for what to do. It's not something you have to suddenly go out and specifically prepare for since the underlying fundamentals are still the same as a single article analysis.
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Well we just did the VATE 2013 trial exam today at school and the language analysis had two one-page opinion pieces and an advertisement. Most of us took longer than the hour to get a decent analysis done (it took me 80 minutes so I had to write a fairly mediocre text response in 40 minutes). So, while it is possible to get multiple texts, I think they'd move away from it since it simply takes too long to complete properly.
I had that too! And I hate to be a fun sponge, but why spend time speculating when you can be practising =D
Although my teacher once floated the idea of just a page of letter to the editors (minus original article) kind of like the ones in The Age. Not the short silly ones in the Herald Sun, but proper structured arguments