ATAR Notes: Forum
VCE Stuff => Victorian Education Discussion => Topic started by: Notes4me123 on October 30, 2013, 06:50:22 pm
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How do you advise that we 'move on' after we get into a Uni course and forget about our ATAR and vce?
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Hahahaha, set foot in university, that's how. Honestly, there is no great big transcendent process. You just enrol and stop giving a fuck.
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Well once you're in Uni, no one ever cares about that thing called an "ATAR". The person next to you in the lecture doesn't say to you, "Oh, what'd yo get for an ATAR?"
Don't worry. I'm sure the transition into Uni will be fine for you. :)
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Well once you're in Uni, no one ever cares about that thing called an "ATAR". The person next to you in the lecture doesn't say to you, "Oh, what'd yo get for an ATAR?"
Don't worry. I'm sure the transition into Uni will be fine for you. :)
And I've heard those that do aren't really likeable people, anyway :P
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If you don't feel like moving on, become a moderator on an Australian educational website and forum.
This way, your high school days will haunt you forever.
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You just enrol and stop giving a fuck.
This just about sums it up.
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If you don't feel like moving on, become a moderator on an Australian educational website and forum.
This way, your high school days will haunt you forever.
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If you don't feel like moving on, become a moderator on an Australian educational website and forum.
This way, your high school days will haunt you forever.
Or tutor a subject. Hahaha
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How do you advise that we 'move on' after we get into a Uni course and forget about our ATAR and vce?
1. Get wasted at all the events during O-week (pub crawls etc.).
2. Get wasted at all the balls (generally, faculties hold their own individual balls like the Commerce ball, don't really recommend the Engineering ball if you're a guy though - absolute sausage-fest).
3. Get wasted at all the pre-exam parties.
4. Get wasted at all the after-exam parties (AXPs).
5. Repeat steps 1-4.
Disclaimer: Plz drink responsibly. And note, you might lose a lot of money (and perhaps your dignity) in the process.
All this advice is coming from a guy who doesn't drink.
#eeps'adviceoftheday
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^Forgot the cheeky drink during the exam, nothing like a bit of voddy in a Powerade bottle ;)
Disclaimer: Plz drink responsibly.
But not too responsibly ;)
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^Forgot the cheeky drink during the exam, nothing like a bit of voddy in a Powerade bottle ;)
Who the hell calls it voddy
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Who the hell calls it voddy
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Voddy
It's commonplace among scholars and gentlemen alcoholics.
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Because at the end of the day the ATAR is just something you use to get to the course you want to do. It doesnt mean shit about you and who you are.
And sure no one is ashamed, but that doesnt mean you talk about it, because its mostly irrelevant. Most people forgot what they got by like 2nd year.
EDIT: Actually thats not true, some people might be ashamed because they think they could do better, but it doesnt matter as long as they got into what they wanted.
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Why don't ppl talk about their ATARs in uni?
If you're sitting in a course with a clearly in of 92 no one in the course would be ashamed of their ATAR?
It's not a matter of being ashamed, it's a matter of "no one actually cares".
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Why don't ppl talk about their ATARs in uni?
If you're sitting in a course with a clearly in of 92 no one in the course would be ashamed of their ATAR?
Well, it's similar to a Year 12 kid talking about his school grades from Year 9. People just don't care.
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I'm not going to lie: some graduate jobs (and a very very small number of graduate programs) do ask for your VCE or high school results. However, put this to the back of your mind once you graduate, because VCE won't matter for anything until then (and honestly, probably will barely matter at that point) once you get into a course.
What always annoyed me was that a lot of people were saying how your ATAR sums up 18 years. It really doesn't. It sums up about 6 days, really, and some other work. It's a key to open doors, but nothing more.
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Yeah but appianway, if I get an ATAR of 40, it will essentially ruin my life as it closes nearly every door to engineering/medicine/commerce
Not really. There's alternate pathways into uni.
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Go to one of those camps before uni :P
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I'm not going to lie: some graduate jobs (and a very very small number of graduate programs) do ask for your VCE or high school results. However, put this to the back of your mind once you graduate, because VCE won't matter for anything until then (and honestly, probably will barely matter at that point) once you get into a course.
What always annoyed me was that a lot of people were saying how your ATAR sums up 18 years. It really doesn't. It sums up about 6 days, really, and some other work. It's a key to open doors, but nothing more.
To add on to what appianway has already said. I know of a case where two extremely smart people were a few of the last remaining candidates left for a very top position at a prestigious firm. They were on par in almost every aspect - abundant work experience, extremely good uni grades etc, what ended up as the deciding factor was their ENTER.
So yeah, your VCE ENTER could still matter just when you don't think it will...
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The best way to move on from VCE is to slay your certificate and consume its soul; this is the only way to free yourself from its foul grip and banish it from this realm. It is known.
But seriously Brenden is absolutely correct. Once you're in uni you pretty much forget about school altogether.
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The only time ATAR
is was mentioned in my course is subtly when people discuss whether or not they have guaranteed med entry.
Edit: ):
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But it's still important though, it's part of your roots
I don't see how that makes a difference. You made it into the course, it doesn't matter where you came from or your roots. What you've done in the past and what effort you've put in doesn't matter once you've got in. It's how you go and what you put in when you get there that matters. Just because you got a good atar doesn't mean you'll do well in uni, and just because you may not of gotten a good atar doesn't mean you won't do well in uni either.
Starting uni is a time to reinvent yourself, if you want to. After VCE you shouldn't let yourself attach your ATAR to yourself or 'part of your roots'. You're missing the point here. It's important to get you in, after that it doesn't mean squat*
*(other than the situations that TT and appianway have said or if you want to transfer at midyear).
EDIT: You'll probably realise and understand it more after results when the "VCE bubble" bursts.
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Yeah but appianway, if I get an ATAR of 40, it will essentially ruin my life as it closes every door to engineering/medicine/commerce
I can't see how you can proceed successfully into the future without a "decent" ATAR (I know it's subjective but you get what I'm saying)
A "shit" (using it loosely) ATAR score doesn't mean "Oh no, it's the end of the world". There are always ways to get where you ultimately want to be, some ways just take longer than others. That said, there is a saying in life "no pain, no gain". As what others have already alluded to, your ATAR score is simply a stepping-stone into university, but it's really what you make of your degree that counts. If you look at some of the most successful entrepreneurs like Lindsay Fox, he dropped out of school altogether and yet look where he's at now. Sometimes, I believe we tend to overemphasise scores/rankings (whatever you want to call it) and make sweeping generalisations about people based solely on empirical data. Life all around us is defined by numbers and scores, but that doesn't define us as individuals. There are no guarantees in life.
1. I think this thread has brought up some great discussion.
2. I am never this serious.
3. Must be hacked.
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^ Wow.
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What the hell is this thread?
Step 1) Get ATAR
Step 2) Get into ideal course somehow
Step 3) ???
Step 4) Never mention your ATAR or study scores after the first half of semester 1 of your first year to your peers or it's just embarrassing for everyone involved
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What the hell is this thread?
Step 1) Get ATAR
Step 2) Get into ideal course somehow
Step 3) ???
Step 4) Never mention your ATAR or study scores after the first half of semester 1 of your first year to your peers or it's just embarrassing for everyone involved
5. ? ?? ?
6. Profit?
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I can't wait to move on from VCE once I'm in Uni. And in all seriousness, my step brother and I were talking about this the other day and he says the people who do talk about their atar are usually people you want to avoid. So do yourself a favour, don't talk about your atar in uni and save your self from the potential pit of alienation
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There is an absolutely massive gap between VCE and Uni. 3 and a bit months, give or take. It's some of the largest holidays you've ever had. It's ~12 weeks, think about that for a bit. You won't care about VCE or ATAR maybe a month or two after. You settle into not being at school and not having to do the routine anymore. Uni slowly eases you into it as well.
It's not like it hits you like a brick. You will just gradually get use to it, believe me. Even then, theres not some magical moment where a dude in a robe gives you a secret invitation to be a uni student, theres no inauguration to a secret society or anything. It's a bit like becoming an adult, theres no magical letter to hogwarts or the secret adult club with all you need to know, it just happens one day and you ease into it without even really noticing.
As for those saying uni will be awesome, it is. It's not all smiles and rainbows either though, theres a lot of work and in some regards the extra freedom and responsibilities which make it so awesome can also magnify your problems. It is an awesome experience for sure but there won't be rainbows in the sky and you won't be magically a foot taller once you're there. I've seen some people go into it with massively overinflated expectations (including myself to a degree) and it makes it a bit of a shock to the system.
If you don't feel like moving on, become a moderator on an Australian educational website and forum.
This way, your high school days will haunt you forever.
That got real deep...fast.
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is transferring courses or university as easy as everyone says it is?
I heard that if your gpa is good enough in year 1 you can practically transfer into any course/uni you want. I haven't been doing very well this year, been suffering from depression, I think I'll be lucky to get even ~85 which falls short of comm/eng @ monash 93. In previous years I've pretty much pretty damn good at school; got a 41 last year in accounting without putting in too much effort, so I'm sure that after I get over my issues I should be able to do well in uni. Would give me lots of hope if transferring is as easy as it sounds :)
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is transferring courses or university as easy as everyone says it is?
I heard that if your gpa is good enough in year 1 you can practically transfer into any course/uni you want.
Mid year transfer for Melb Uni courses have half weighting on ATAR and half weighting on GPA, while after a full year of study your ATAR becomes irrelevant.
It should be similar for other universities as well
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Mid year transfer for Melb Uni courses have half weighting on ATAR and half weighting on GPA, while after a full year of study your ATAR becomes irrelevant.
It should be similar for other universities as well
phew. is your gpa fully applicable even if the course you've done in 1st year is completely irrelevant to the course you want to transfer into the next year?
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phew. is your gpa fully applicable even if the course you've done in 1st year is completely irrelevant to the course you want to transfer into the next year?
Pretty much yeah. Prove yourself well at a major Uni in first year and almost every door opens.
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Pretty much yeah. Prove yourself well at a major Uni in first year and almost every door opens.
awesome! looks like all hope is not lost :) gotta try hard next year!
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I actually struggled a little bit. Not because I wanted to talk about my ATAR or study scores - I really couldn't care less, now - but I felt like I had lost all direction and structure. I guess the answer is to stay busy, like I didn't.
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awesome! looks like all hope is not lost :) gotta try hard next year!
Also, I thought it went without saying, but perhaps I should clarify - you do still have to meet the subject prerequisites for any course you transfer into. Your uni grades matter, and your ATAR doesn't, but yeah, you still need to meet any other prerequisites for the course.
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Also, I thought it went without saying, but perhaps I should clarify - you do still have to meet the subject prerequisites for any course you transfer into. Your uni grades matter, and your ATAR doesn't, but yeah, you still need to meet any other prerequisites for the course.
yeah I think I should be able to manage the prerequisites, though just in case somehow I don't are there any course I can take in uni that will give me credit for the perquisites?
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yeah I think I should be able to manage the prerequisites, though just in case somehow I don't are there any course I can take in uni that will give me credit for the perquisites?
That depends on what the prerequisites are and what course you're doing at uni.
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That depends on what the prerequisites are and what course you're doing at uni.
Yes there are..for example you can take MTH1020(spesh equvailent) if you didn't get 30 in spesh...if you got 30 in spesh you can take the advanced one, MTH1030..and so on..I got 30 in spesh and decided to do 1030 last semester...I nailed that last semester...so your atar or specific ss doesn't matter if you're a dedicated student :)
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Well this is a bummer, I can't transfer mid-year :'(
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Just wanted to ask something right in the middle of the transfers question; assuming you do successfully manage a uni transfer to a different course, would it be sort of weird moving universities? Like I'm assuming you'd make friends and social groups throughout the year at one uni, but then the transfer would make it feel like starting uni all over again, as you might not know many people in your lectures and whatnot at the new uni?
(hoping that made sense :P)
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Just wanted to ask something right in the middle of the transfers question; assuming you do successfully manage a uni transfer to a different course, would it be sort of weird moving universities? Like I'm assuming you'd make friends and social groups throughout the year at one uni, but then the transfer would make it feel like starting uni all over again, as you might not know many people in your lectures and whatnot at the new uni?
(hoping that made sense :P)
I wanna know the same thing!
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Just wanted to ask something right in the middle of the transfers question; assuming you do successfully manage a uni transfer to a different course, would it be sort of weird moving universities? Like I'm assuming you'd make friends and social groups throughout the year at one uni, but then the transfer would make it feel like starting uni all over again, as you might not know many people in your lectures and whatnot at the new uni?
(hoping that made sense :P)
Ummm... well.... yeah. That's just life. Like starting a new school or starting uni for the first time. If you want to transfer then transfer and cop what comes with that. If you don't, then don't. It's your life and noone is going to, what, transfer your social group with you???
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I think its easy to walk into lectures and not know anyone, even after your first year, but its up to you to make friends in Lectures and Tutes. Tutes more so, if you dont get into classes with your friends and choose units as fkn a collective social group, you'll find you dont know many people and you'll have to SOCIALISE. I know sometimes you just dont want to interact with humanity, but if you want friends its what you got to do :P Ceebs, I know.
Also, I think uni has more of an emphasis on independence. Dont get me wrong, I'm not telling you that you dont need friends and that you shouldnt make friends, but Uni is a place where you have to do your work on your own, where its your responsibility to go consult with tutors and stuff, so dont expect to make friendship groups that you go to classes and stuff with, because your mates will chose different units and have different timetables as you, and no one will be spoon feeding you stuff. I have friends that do my course, but I hardly ever see them.
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I think its easy to walk into lectures and not know anyone, even after your first year, but its up to you to make friends in Lectures and Tutes. Tutes more so, if you dont get into classes with your friends and choose units as fkn a collective social group, you'll find you dont know many people and you'll have to SOCIALISE.
This. Forming friendships, especially in the first couple of weeks, helps you to adjust and settle into university. You really do have to make the effort to just start conversations with people in your tutorials and/or lectures. Keeping to yourself/being closed won't really help you if you want to make friends. Some of my closest mates are studying completely different things to me; it's really just a matter of making the effort to talk to people you've never met before and seeing where it takes you.
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ALSO GO TO AN MEETS! You meet people from other degrees, same uni's/courses, gives you a headstart with a somewhat studious crowd (which is also good at 4 square). Met some really good friends there :)