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VCE Stuff => VCE Mathematics => VCE Mathematics/Science/Technology => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Mathematical Methods CAS => Topic started by: CossieG on November 03, 2013, 08:33:13 pm
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Who knows, last year for exam 2 it was 123/160 while it was like 146/160 for a few years before that
I hope they make it hard this year, the lower the A+ cutoff the better.
I actually want a challenging exam 1 for once
Same here! :D
Before, I hated Methods, but now I actually like it. Hope we get a hard Exam 1 and 2. :D
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Exam 1
2006-75/80
2007-69/80
2008-75/80
2009-75/80
2010-73/80
2011-68/80
2012-73/80
Avg -72.6/80 ~36/37 out of 40
Exam 2
2006-144/160
2007-125/160
2008-135/160
2009-139/160
2010-132/160
2011-128/160
2012-123/160
Avg- 132.3/180 ~66/67 out of 80
source
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/vce/statistics/2012/statssect3.aspx
*and previous years
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Exam 1
2006-75/80
2007-69/80
2008-75/80
2009-75/80
2010-73/80
2011-68/80
2012-73/80
Avg -72.6/80 ~36/37 out of 40
Exam 2
2006-144/160
2007-125/160
2008-135/160
2009-139/160
2010-132/160
2011-128/160
2012-123/160
Avg- 132.3/180 ~66/67 out of 80
source
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/vce/statistics/2012/statssect3.aspx
*and previous years
WOW! Thank you very much for posting that.
EDIT: The A+ cutoff has never been between 150-160 for Exam 2 - Lowest was 144. And in fact, it was very low last year as well. Hopefully the class of 2013 breaks the record. :P
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I know the highest for Exam 2 for Specialist was 147 last year.
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Hopefully leflyi doesn't mind me posting this. I'll delete this if he/she uploads it. :)
SPECIALIST MATHEMATICS
Exam 1
2006: 73/80
2007: 72/80
2008: 64/80
2009: 75/80
2010: 73/80
2011: 77/80
2012: 69/80
Average: 71.9/80 ~36 out of 40
Exam 2
2006: 136/160
2007: 137/160
2008: 132/160
2009: 140/160
2010: 137/160
2011: 143/160
2012: 147/160
Average: 138.9/160 ~69/70 out of 80
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I believe I've been bested by the bold ;)
Didn't notice the reply till just before :P
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Interesting how the Average A+ Cutoff for Spesh is significantly higher than Methods.
Possibly due to less students? ???
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Yep and the quality of students is a lot higher
Hence why if you get 40 for spesh that's better than getting 50 for methods.
(40 scaled to 51 last year)
Good point - Forgot about the Scaling bit. :P
WOW! If you get 50 (Raw) in Methods, it doesn't Scale up? :o
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Spesh exams are also typically easier - having learnt the content - than Methods exams.
WOW! If you get 50 (Raw) in Methods, it doesn't Scale up? :o
Subjects only scale about 50 if the mean plus twice the standard deviation of their scaled distribution (what you see on the scaling report) is 50 or above. Assuming a standard deviation of seven, the mean of all the scaled scores of all methods students in their other subjects would need to be 36 - it's close, but not quite there. Keep in mind five is added to the mean scaled score of languages.
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Spesh exams are also typically easier - having learnt the content - than Methods exams.
Subjects only scale about 50 if the mean plus twice the standard deviation of their scaled distribution (what you see on the scaling report) is 50 or above. Assuming a mean of seven, Methods students would need to get a mean scaled score in all their other subjects of 36 - it's close, but not quite there. Keep in mind five is added to the mean scaled score of languages.
Ohh okay. Fair enough. That makes sense.
Thanks. :)
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What SS would I get if I'm ranked 3rd with 90% SACS and get A+ on both exams but 1st and 2nd rank get C?
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What SS would I get if I'm ranked 3rd with 90% SACS and get A+ on both exams but 1st and 2nd rank get C?
1st and 2nd get a C? Hmm... you would probably get a 49. :)
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These scores make me want to cry and/or go into anaphylactic shock :|
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1st and 2nd get a C? Hmm... you would probably get a 49. :)
WOW! Really!? I was told that if the students ranked infront of you end up getting higher than them, then it will bring your study score down?
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It's better for your class to do well as a whole that well individually. You wouldn't get 49 I don't think, still it would be high, but your mark would be affected.
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Well actually yeah. It might depend on indicative grades and GAT Scores as well.
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1st and 2nd get a C? Hmm... you would probably get a 49. :)
Erm...we haven't been given enough information yet. For all we know, the A+ in the exams might be borderline A+. In which case you wouldn't make a 40 with three low A+'s. Then, as those in front of you apparently fail, your SAC grade will be affected.
Best to aim for 100% in the exam, stuff the cutoff and possible grades.
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It's only a rough estimate. :)
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Erm...we haven't been given enough information yet. For all we know, the A+ in the exams might be borderline A+. In which case you wouldn't make a 40 with three low A+'s. Then, as those in front of you apparently fail, your SAC grade will be affected.
Best to aim for 100% in the exam, stuff the cutoff and possible grades.
be affected in a good way or bad way?
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be affected in a good way or bad way?
I think in a good way, but its a really complicated process that I don't even think VCAA knows. :P
Just do the best you can on the Exams, and let VCAA worry about the rest. :)
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A specific percentage of students get A+ (usually about 9-10%).
Basically, A+ cuts for spesh exams are high these days coz they make the exams extremely easy.
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What SS would I get if I'm ranked 3rd with 90% SACS and get A+ on both exams but 1st and 2nd rank get C?
It's actually not 1st or 2nd rank's exam grades that matter. You just need ANY OTHER two people to smash the exams to ensure your SAC scores don't drop.
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It's actually not 1st or 2nd rank's exam grades that matter. You just need ANY OTHER two people to smash the exams to ensure your SAC scores don't drop.
How about abnormal results? Say the people ranked higher than you generally get higher scores, but the guy ranked above you screws up big time. Will that affect my results?
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Maybe a little, if there isn't another person who is ranked below you in SACs who does better than you in the exam.
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Isn't that sort of funny though, that you need someone below you in SACs to beat you in the exam for your marks not to be affected?
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It's actually not 1st or 2nd rank's exam grades that matter. You just need ANY OTHER two people to smash the exams to ensure your SAC scores don't drop.
That's not true, and an oversimplification of statistical moderation.