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Title: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: methodsboy on July 10, 2009, 02:42:59 pm
hey
does anyone on this site do BPharmSc.? If so, how many days do you have to go there? and are students allowed to work at home online, instead of actually attending lectures?  I know students must attend practicals but what about lectures?
Thanks   :)
PS - a general timetable would be helpful
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: Collin Li on July 10, 2009, 07:27:48 pm
Pharmaceutical Science is actually a bit more tight than most other courses - they check the roll (but I'm not sure whether it counts for anything) in some lectures and in most tutes.

No idea about the timetables.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: wombifat on July 10, 2009, 08:27:18 pm
How is pharmaceutical science different from pharmacy?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: methodsboy on July 10, 2009, 08:41:48 pm
pharmacy -> graduates work as registered pharmacists
phamaceutical science -> graduates work as pharmaceutical scientists. Formulating products such as pharmaceuticals, paints, cosmetics, toothpastes..the list goes on.
in both degrees, graduates find employment within 4 months of graduation. i really want to do pharmaceutical science but the campus is so damn far.  :(
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: methodsboy on July 10, 2009, 08:54:47 pm
^im planning to go to Monash Parkville... it takes 40 mins to get there by car =[
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: kurrymuncher on July 10, 2009, 09:16:45 pm
take the train fool
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: Collin Li on July 10, 2009, 09:17:16 pm
Monash Parkville is near The University of Melbourne!
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: methodsboy on July 10, 2009, 09:26:26 pm
take the train fool
that would mean getting off at flagstaff and then waiting for a tram to take me west and then waiting for another tram to take me north....it takes too long fool
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: transgression on July 10, 2009, 11:04:54 pm
wtf - just get off at mc then take the tram
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: Toothpaste on July 11, 2009, 12:09:29 am
take the train fool
that would mean getting off at flagstaff and then waiting for a tram to take me west and then waiting for another tram to take me north....it takes too long fool

wtf - just get off at mc then take the tram

Yep. Tram 19 from Elizabeth Street (North Coburg). It'll take you past The University of Melbourne and to Monash University Parkville.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: mystikal on July 11, 2009, 12:36:10 pm
Hey can pharmacy graduates still apply for jobs regarding pharmceutical science? or is it completely different?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: shinny on July 11, 2009, 12:56:01 pm
Hey can pharmacy graduates still apply for jobs regarding pharmceutical science? or is it completely different?


Pretty sure you can as they do mostly the same units, with more practical stuff on top such as communication and how to dispense drugs etc. However, the majority of the science side is still there so I don't see why not.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: Toothpaste on July 11, 2009, 02:53:28 pm
Hey can pharmacy graduates still apply for jobs regarding pharmceutical science? or is it completely different?

It would be competitive due to less positions than in hospital/community pharmacy and you'd probably need more experience to score these jobs. I hear that you may also try to do your pre-reg pharmacy year with an industry based structure, eg; 50% hospital pharmacy/50% industrial. I think CSL (I think this one's through the Royal Melbourne Hospital ... or was it Childrens') and GSK (forgot which hospital lol) offer something like this. Used to be on the SHPA site but I don't think it's there now. I'm unsure whether you can just do an industry placement by itself ... that said, the registration exam is more based on community pharmacy stuff.

Attached something relevant. Notice the person's degrees in the first non-empty slide.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: lacoste on July 11, 2009, 03:00:14 pm
Is it possible to accelerate [finish the course in a shorter amount of time] the course in university, specifically in pharmacy and other related courses?

And, why do first year graduates doing pharm get paid very little?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: Collin Li on July 11, 2009, 03:09:44 pm
Coz IMO, it's an overrated job (glorified storekeeper).
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: Toothpaste on July 11, 2009, 03:27:57 pm
Is it possible to accelerate [finish the course in a shorter amount of time] the course in university, specifically in pharmacy and other related courses?

And, why do first year graduates doing pharm get paid very little?
C'mon it's only four years lol. Usually no for pharmacy, since the units are fixed and are offered once a year. Click for course map (Note that they "redeveloped" the course this year and the third year/fourth year units are still being finalised).

You might like to read the credit page.

Quote from: http://www.pharm.monash.edu.au/students/undergrad/reenrolmentug.html
Students are permitted to enrol in a combination of 1st/2nd year units, or 2nd/3rd year units if they have failed a unit or enrolled with credit. However, 3rd/4th year units cannot be combined due to placements creating unresolvable timetable clashes. 1st/2nd/3rd year units may not be taken in the same year.
If you do MUEP chemistry you can get credit for the first semester of study for two units - those being the two chemistry units. It just means you'll have only two units for semester one of first year. You'd have to do chemistry in sem 2 anyway because they regard CHM1011 and CHM1022 as only worth one semester of pharmacy's chemistry.

They don't get much because they're not fully qualified. Pharm interns still need to be supervised and they're still undergoing training. Like with most jobs, experience influences how much you get paid. There's a leap in pay after the intern year's over (providing you pass the registration exam).

Coz IMO, it's an overrated job (glorified storekeeper).
lol. It's also an overeducated job. Current regulations that say pharmacies may only be owned by a registered pharmacist which keeps community pharmacies from being taken over by supermarkets. This makes it slightly more lucrative than it would be with competition - good for the people, bad for the pharmacists. I'd also like to point out that this fictional GP would've had to held a accredited pharmacy degree along with a medicine one which was actually my first reason in typing this paragraph.
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: methodsboy on July 11, 2009, 04:16:32 pm
THIS THREAD WAS ONLY INTENDED FOR PHARMACEUTICAL SCIENCE DISCUSSION >_<". PLEASE DISCUSS PHARMACEUTICAL SCIENCE JOBS THANK YOU.
i've heard from numerous peeps that jobs opportunities for BPharmSc are vast in VIC. And those for engineering are slowly declining since too many people keep doing engineering. Is this true or is it just propaganda?
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: kurrymuncher on July 11, 2009, 07:51:53 pm
THIS THREAD WAS ONLY INTENDED FOR PHARMACEUTICAL SCIENCE DISCUSSION >_<". PLEASE DISCUSS PHARMACEUTICAL SCIENCE JOBS THANK YOU.
i've heard from numerous peeps that jobs opportunities for BPharmSc are vast in VIC. And those for engineering are slowly declining since too many people keep doing engineering. Is this true or is it just propaganda?

slowly declining?? what are you smoking??
Title: Re: Pharmaceutical Science
Post by: methodsboy on July 12, 2009, 12:59:22 pm
^in victoria