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Title: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: ninwa on December 15, 2013, 02:22:08 pm
Reminder of no-tolerance rule

This is the place to discuss how you went, congratulate other people on their results, and generally talk about the release of ATARs and/or individual scores.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Stick on December 16, 2013, 07:06:36 am
Omg I was never counting on Chancellor's Scholars Program at all.... omg thank you so much everyone
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: lala1911 on December 16, 2013, 07:06:50 am
Congratulations to everyone on their scores! Hope you all got what you wanted.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Special At Specialist on December 16, 2013, 07:14:45 am
WOOOOOO I GOT A 28 IN ENGLISH! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I'm so relieved... no more worrying, no more stress. Everything is going right for once :)

Omg I was never counting on Chancellor's Scholars Program at all.... omg thank you so much everyone

Congratulations Stick! Brilliant ATAR! You've done so well!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: simba on December 16, 2013, 07:19:54 am
OMG CONGRATS S@S, SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!!

I cannot believe my score. OMG, I thought I was screwed.

This is crazy

I didn't even PREDICT any score this high!! :o
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: lala1911 on December 16, 2013, 07:20:51 am
Congratulations Stick and Specialist@Spesh! + everyone else!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: casbanjo on December 16, 2013, 07:24:54 am
Congratulations Stick!

I'm so relieved right now. Results are in my signature  :D
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 07:27:12 am
Omg I was never counting on Chancellor's Scholars Program at all.... omg thank you so much everyone

wow you star. congrats man!! all the best for uni and well deserved score.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: QTPi on December 16, 2013, 07:28:48 am
Are the scored we get scaled or raw?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: slothpomba on December 16, 2013, 07:29:03 am
WOOOOOO I GOT A 28 IN ENGLISH! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I'm so relieved... no more worrying, no more stress. Everything is going right for once :)

Congratulations Stick! Brilliant ATAR! You've done so well!

Congrats! Finally made it mate!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: RKTR on December 16, 2013, 07:39:37 am
i'm really disappointed T.T   :( :'(
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 07:40:16 am
Are the scored we get scaled or raw?

Raw.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: alondouek on December 16, 2013, 07:40:55 am
Omg I was never counting on Chancellor's Scholars Program at all.... omg thank you so much everyone

Well done mate, fully deserved!

And well done to everyone else as well, massive congrats to S@S - proof that if you put in the hard yards it is worth it in the end. May you all go from strength to strength!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Chalkhous on December 16, 2013, 07:47:07 am
Omg!
Methods: 43
Psychology: 50  ;D ;D ;D

Does anyone in Year 12 know what a 43 would scale to?

44 goes to a 49.48 so you probably got a 48-49. Methods this year is amazing, 50 goes to 52!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Irving4Prez on December 16, 2013, 07:56:52 am
Hey guys, for bio was the grades provided in the text; GA 1/2/3

GA 1 being unit 3 SAC scores?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 08:03:12 am
Hey guys, for bio was the grades provided in the text; GA 1/2/3

GA 1 being unit 3 SAC scores?

Yes
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: DefyingGravity on December 16, 2013, 08:11:14 am
Pretty jiffed right now...

I've had multiple chronic illnesses this year (to a point where I could barely get to school more than two days a week) and so my VCE coordinator advised me that I should get a whole 5 aggregate points added to my ATAR.
However, I've added up all my scaled scores to get the exact aggregate score that it shows online and in the text I received - No extra SEAS stuff added.
Is the SEAS stuff meant to show up online and in text and in your final ATAR? Because from all the research I had done, I was pretty sure it's meant to... Or will it show up on the letter we get in the mail?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 08:14:29 am
Pretty jiffed right now...

I've had multiple chronic illnesses this year (to a point where I could barely get to school more than two days a week) and so my VCE coordinator advised me that I should get a whole 5 aggregate points added to my ATAR.
However, I've added up all my scaled scores to get the exact aggregate score that it shows online and in the text I received - No extra SEAS stuff added.
Is the SEAS stuff meant to show up online and in text and in your final ATAR? Because from all the research I had done, I was pretty sure it's meant to... Or will it show up on the letter we get in the mail?

SEAS is added by the institutions not by VTAC. You don't find out how many points your score was boosted. It just happens and if you qualify you receive a first round offer.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: DefyingGravity on December 16, 2013, 08:16:20 am
SEAS is added by the institutions not by VTAC. You don't find out how many points your score was boosted. It just happens and if you qualify you receive a first round offer.
Nyoooooo. Ahhh, that sucks balls... Thanks.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: werdna on December 16, 2013, 08:16:55 am
Pretty jiffed right now...

I've had multiple chronic illnesses this year (to a point where I could barely get to school more than two days a week) and so my VCE coordinator advised me that I should get a whole 5 aggregate points added to my ATAR.
However, I've added up all my scaled scores to get the exact aggregate score that it shows online and in the text I received - No extra SEAS stuff added.
Is the SEAS stuff meant to show up online and in text and in your final ATAR? Because from all the research I had done, I was pretty sure it's meant to... Or will it show up on the letter we get in the mail?

Nope... all SEAS extra points, allowances etc are not 'official' in any way. The 5 points will be added by the selections officers at your preferred universities when they offer places to students. The extra points etc are only for selections and admissions purposes, modified/boosted ATARs won't show up anywhere on certificates or anything like that.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Irving4Prez on December 16, 2013, 08:22:20 am
Is it possible for your unit 4 sacs to scale more than your unit 3 sacs? :/
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluegirl on December 16, 2013, 08:25:46 am
My boyfriend got an atar of 52.4 and he's extremely gutted. I don't even know what to say to him :(

He's going to the army so doesn't need an atar but he's shattered. I feel useless.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 08:26:20 am
Is it possible for your unit 4 sacs to scale more than your unit 3 sacs? :/

Yes. As rankings for each unit are separate.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Sergy01 on December 16, 2013, 08:27:52 am
Is there somewhere here to advertise tutoring?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: lala1911 on December 16, 2013, 08:30:15 am
My boyfriend got an atar of 52.4 and he's extremely gutted. I don't even know what to say to him :(

He's going to the army so doesn't need an atar but he's shattered. I feel useless.
Tell him that there are still so many opportunities with 52.4 ATAR. You can still do I.T, Health Science, Arts etc. They are still very respected courses and can bring in a respectable income. A course that is 90 ATAR doesn't mean its better than a course with 50 ATAR.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 08:32:35 am
Is there somewhere here to advertise tutoring?
http://www.atarnotes.com/?p=tutoring

My boyfriend got an atar of 52.4 and he's extremely gutted. I don't even know what to say to him :(

He's going to the army so doesn't need an atar but he's shattered. I feel useless.

Did he have any goals that he set? Really at the end of the day the ATAR doesn't mean much especially as he is following a path which doesn't need one. He's moving in the direction he wants to go and that's all that matters. That being said his feelings are valid and if you want to you can try to support him through them, but you should put yourself first and not let it effect you.

Really his ATAR isn't that bad and as long as it helps him move forward in life, it's served its purpose.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: abcdqd on December 16, 2013, 08:33:30 am
That Methods 52 scaled LOL. Anyone have any idea why it scaled this much?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: flyhighx on December 16, 2013, 08:33:55 am
hi,
just wondering how does SEAS work ?
I have already applied for it, I heard that once you apply for it you automatically get into access Melbourne?
Also how does the first round offers work?
How many courses do we get offered?
thanks
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: ChickenCh0wM1en on December 16, 2013, 08:34:07 am
Would you ever consider for a moment hiring a tutor with no prior teaching experience and a SS of 39 for the subject?
Was never worried about my atar, I was only concerned about my lit SS, and I'm so gutted with this result. I can't do anything with it and it's the only thing I've ever been "good" at in high school.http://www.atarnotes.com/?p=tutoring

Why not? As long as they can concisely and efficiently explain the concept, the tutor who scored a SS of 39 may potentially be better than those who scored higher! :)

Good luck!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: slothpomba on December 16, 2013, 08:34:45 am
My boyfriend got an atar of 52.4 and he's extremely gutted. I don't even know what to say to him :(

He's going to the army so doesn't need an atar but he's shattered. I feel useless.

He still beat over 50% of the state, its honestly nothing to sneeze at. At the end of the day, the ATAR only has as much meaning and weight as you give it. If he didn't need it, he should hardly look upon it as wasted or failing.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: unfamila on December 16, 2013, 08:37:42 am
whoever marked my English exam is either a good bloke or an idiot, how do I get an A+
 
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Sergy01 on December 16, 2013, 08:40:16 am
Would you ever consider for a moment hiring a tutor with no prior teaching experience and a SS of 39 for the subject?
Was never worried about my atar, I was only concerned about my lit SS, and I'm so gutted with this result. I can't do anything with it and it's the only thing I've ever been "good" at in high school.http://www.atarnotes.com/?p=tutoring

Actually, I would. Even if the person had a study score of like 35. They've been through VCE, and they have been taught. They know where they have made mistakes, thus they can pass on the knowledge they have with caution and attention to detail. Plus, 39 is that close to 40 that they wouldn't (or shouldn't) care.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 08:41:54 am
hi,
just wondering how does SEAS work ?
I have already applied for it, I heard that once you apply for it you automatically get into access Melbourne?
Also how does the first round offers work?
How many courses do we get offered?
thanks
VTAC passes the application onto the institutions you apply for, the institutions make their adjustments, you don't find out what the adjustments were, if you make it into the course you receive a first round offer.

Access melbourne is just unimelb's fancy name for their SEAS program.
Iirc you get the offer highest on your preference list you get into to.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Lolly on December 16, 2013, 08:44:33 am
I don't know how to feel at the moment. I'm happy of course, but I missed out on my goal and first pref by .10 . :P Might still be able to get in. I DON'T KNOW argh#firstworldproblems.:P
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: mazzdog on December 16, 2013, 08:45:05 am
Can I still get into biomed at melbourne if I missed the clearly in ATAR by 0.1?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: mishamigo on December 16, 2013, 08:46:40 am
Would you ever consider for a moment hiring a tutor with no prior teaching experience and a SS of 39 for the subject?
Was never worried about my atar, I was only concerned about my lit SS, and I'm so gutted with this result. I can't do anything with it and it's the only thing I've ever been "good" at in high school.http://www.atarnotes.com/?p=tutoring

sounds so much like me right now that it hurts :(
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 08:47:03 am
Can I still get into biomed at melbourne if I missed the clearly in ATAR by 0.1?
I don't know how to feel at the moment. I'm happy of course, but I missed out on my goal and first pref by .10 . :P Might still be able to get in though. I DON'T KNOW argh #firstworldproblems:P
For both of you:
No one knows the 2014 clearly in, it could drop for all we know. Anyway you have a pretty good chance of getting in if you get .1 below.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: achre on December 16, 2013, 08:49:32 am
sounds so much like me right now that it hurts :(
Oh no, aj... it's okay, we can be above-average-but-not-exceptional together.  :)
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: s.ay on December 16, 2013, 08:55:10 am
I don't know how to feel at the moment. I'm happy of course, but I missed out on my goal and first pref by .10 . :P Might still be able to get in. I DON'T KNOW argh#firstworldproblems.:P

Me, except change .10 to .50 :P
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: mishamigo on December 16, 2013, 08:55:33 am
Oh no, aj... it's okay, we can be above-average-but-not-exceptional together.  :)

ah yes... the joys of being almost-but-not-quite-incredible!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Special At Specialist on December 16, 2013, 08:57:06 am
just wondering how does SEAS work ?

If you are eligible for SEAS, they will effectively boost your ATAR, but only if the course that you are applying for recognises the SEAS disadvantage. It won't actually change your ATAR or study scores, but the universities will give you a better chance of getting in. They might pretend that your 80 was a 90, even though your certificate still says 80, for example.

I have already applied for it, I heard that once you apply for it you automatically get into access Melbourne?

If UoM recognises the SEAS you have applied for, then you are set to get Access Melbourne. For example, if you went to an underrepresented school that is on the list of schools they published, then you will automatically be eligible for Access Melbourne and will only require a 78 for Arts/Science/Environments, 88 for Commerce and 95 for Biomedicine, guaranteed entry.

Also how does the first round offers work?

Most people get the offer they want in their first round, but sometimes, if you came very close but didn't quite make the cutoff, they will give you an offer for the second round. Don't count on it though: if you're happy with your second preference and they gave you an offer for the first round, then you should accept it.

How many courses do we get offered?

You will only receive one offer per round. So if you messed your preferences up, you have until the 24th of December to change them. Otherwise, they start from your first preference and work their way down. If you decide that you want to do your second preference, but you were eligible for your first preference, then you will miss out. That's why it's important to get your preferences right: choose what you want to do first, not what you think you will/won't get into.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: simba on December 16, 2013, 09:04:21 am
Oh, and I'm giving Brenden almost full credit for my English score!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: dim_sim on December 16, 2013, 09:04:38 am
Hi, quick question! Has anyone received any scholarship offers from Monash yet? (like a phone call or something?) Even though my ATAR is good I'm feeling somewhat defeated after working so so hard. :/
That said, I hope everyone is happy and proud of their efforts and results!! :)
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Lasercookie on December 16, 2013, 09:04:56 am
hi,
just wondering how does SEAS work ?
I have already applied for it, I heard that once you apply for it you automatically get into access Melbourne?
Also how does the first round offers work?
How many courses do we get offered?
thanks
Each university will look over your SEAS application and will then, depending on the extent of disadvantage, take it into consideration. University of Melbourne's SEAS program is called Access Melbourne, so yes applying for SEAS is the same as applying for Access Melbourne. What considerations that will actually be given you can find on the university websites (such as the Access Melbourne page).

You will receive one offer per round, which will be the course which you've preferenced the highest on your list. This is also why it's important to actually list your preferences in the order you want to do them the most. If you don't make it into your first preference, simple, they'll just look at your next preference and so on until they're able to give you an offer.

From VTAC, once you have an offer, you won't receive any other offers for courses you listed as a lower preference (unless you forfeit it and take a negotiated offer). Say in the first round you get your second preference. You won't receive an offer for your third preference in second round, but you may (not guaranteed) receive an offer for your first preference in the second round. If you get your first preference in the first round, you won't get any more offers (with the exception of the negotiated offer, which works a bit differently). You can find more information on the VTAC website here http://www.vtac.edu.au/results-offers/offers.html

Interstate systems might work slightly differently, but the gist of how preferences and all that work are mostly the same.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Namat on December 16, 2013, 09:06:08 am
I was just wondering that do we get accepted into uni on our raw scores or scaled??
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Lasercookie on December 16, 2013, 09:09:19 am
I was just wondering that do we get accepted into uni on our raw scores or scaled??
The study scores listed for university prerequisites are raw, which I think is what you're asking. Your ATAR is calculated with your scaled scores.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Nato on December 16, 2013, 09:11:16 am
do we all get our results in the mail sometime soon? Or did it have to be ordered?

thanks
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Special At Specialist on December 16, 2013, 09:13:05 am
Oh, and I'm giving Brenden almost full credit for my English score!

Same! Without Brenden, I probably would've missed the 25 study score cutoff for my dream uni course.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Phy124 on December 16, 2013, 09:15:30 am
Hi, does anyone know what a 48 in methods scales to exactly?
(I'm in year 11, so can't check exact scaling)
51+

(A 45 scaled to 50 and a 50 scaled to a 52)
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Lasercookie on December 16, 2013, 09:15:36 am
do we all get our results in the mail sometime soon? Or did it have to be ordered?

thanks
Your results will come in the mail. You'll get a Statement of Results from VCAA which will list all the VCE (units 1/2/3/4) you've taken and your raw study scores and your GAT scores. There's also a VCE certificate, which, don't quote me on this, but I think your school will receive and get to you somehow (likely via mail). You'll also get a letter from VTAC which will have your ATAR statement, which has your ATAR and scaled scores on it.

If you wanted detailed exam marks and all that, you can order Statement of Study Scores (which tells you stuff about your graded assessments) and Statement of Marks (which tells you what marks you got for each question on an exam) - the forms are on the VCAA website. In most cases I don't think it's worth bothering with those.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: HossRyams on December 16, 2013, 09:23:51 am
I did well but...... Really guttered to be honest. I'll be fine soon
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Lolly on December 16, 2013, 09:38:06 am
I did well but...... Really guttered to be honest. I'll be fine soon
Same feels
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Professor_Oak on December 16, 2013, 09:38:35 am
The site said I got a study score of 43 for biology, does that mean I'll be scaled to 44? Or is 43 my scaled score?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: ChickenCh0wM1en on December 16, 2013, 09:45:35 am
The site said I got a study score of 43 for biology, does that mean I'll be scaled to 44? Or is 43 my scaled score?

That is your raw score (43) so it will be scaled to 44.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Natalie96 on December 16, 2013, 09:58:08 am
Well I'm really happy! I was expecting to get in the low to mid 70s but ended up with 85.95!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Nguyensanity on December 16, 2013, 10:14:17 am
Might be a little irrelevant - does anybody know when the Examiner's Reports will be released?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Lasercookie on December 16, 2013, 10:18:25 am
Might be a little irrelevant - does anybody know when the Examiner's Reports will be released?
Not until next year, they usually don't start getting published until late Feb/March-ish (and will trickle out subject by subject)
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Nguyensanity on December 16, 2013, 10:19:33 am
Not until next year, they usually don't start getting published until late Feb/March-ish

Thank you very much, looking forward to see how others went on certain questions - and what the examiners deemed to be the correct answer, clearing up all the discussion across these boards  ;D
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: clıppy on December 16, 2013, 10:21:03 am
So how many 99.95ers do we have on AN this year?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Phy124 on December 16, 2013, 10:34:58 am
Hey guys I am quite depressed with my results, I really messed my year up, always was one of the smartest from year 7 - year 11, but I do not know what happened. Next year I really wanna focus and get my things together again I have always looked at my course as Civil Engineering, I would really like to know what oppurtunities I have with an atar of 59.5. I received 25 in english, 24 in methods, 23 in chem and 27 in physics. I really want to make the most and best of my future, I really wanted to get into Deakin but as I am not sure if it possible for me now as it required 61.95. I really dont know what happened to me, I think i really just flunked my exams, as I did quite well in all sacs all year (besides english, was never my best friend).
Victoria University's Bachelor of Engineering (Civil Engineering) might be an option. It requires a study score of 20 in Mathematical Methods rather than the 25 which most other universities will require. I am currently unsure of the ATAR clearly-in requirement, sorry.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: M_BONG on December 16, 2013, 11:06:29 am
Hi guys,

I did my first 3/4 this year and I was wondering if there were any ways to find out your actual moderated SAC scores/exam scores for your subjects? I know my grades for all GAs but was curious to my exact scores.

Are our subject teachers given our exact scores for all our GAs or is there no way to find out?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: sparkatrine on December 16, 2013, 11:17:51 am
sorry to be random but i was wondering if the study scores below every contrubutors comment is their raw or scaled score.
Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: teletubbies_95 on December 16, 2013, 11:18:19 am
ALL OF YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY.
I'm so proud of youu all :)
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 12:19:45 pm
Hi guys,

I did my first 3/4 this year and I was wondering if there were any ways to find out your actual moderated SAC scores/exam scores for your subjects? I know my grades for all GAs but was curious to my exact scores.

Are our subject teachers given our exact scores for all our GAs or is there no way to find out?

Thanks :)
When the letter arrives in the mail it comes with a form you can send in to get statements of marks etc. (For a fee of course)
sorry to be random but i was wondering if the study scores below every contrubutors comment is their raw or scaled score.
Thanks!  :)
Generally speaking they are raw scores. Scaled scores have a decimal point, raw scores are whole numbers.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: ~T on December 16, 2013, 12:39:45 pm
Never in my wildest dreams did I think I could crack 99.95. I am ecstatic right now. CONGRATS EVERYONE!!!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Zealous on December 16, 2013, 12:42:41 pm
Never in my wildest dreams did I think I could crack 99.95. I am ecstatic right now. CONGRATS EVERYONE!!!

Congrats Tim! The maths in your sig look pretty awesome (49, 50, 50). Great work.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: silverpixeli on December 16, 2013, 01:36:15 pm
Hi, quick question! Has anyone received any scholarship offers from Monash yet? (like a phone call or something?) Even though my ATAR is good I'm feeling somewhat defeated after working so so hard. :/
That said, I hope everyone is happy and proud of their efforts and results!! :)

I got a text that said details of my offer were in the mail, but no call
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Jcp34 on December 16, 2013, 02:10:29 pm
Hi guys, hope you all are pleased with your results.  :)

Quick question:
I did Year 12 Psychology this year as a year 11. I received a study score of 46 with
GA 1 - A
GA 2 - A+
GA 3 - A+.
I've seen quite a few students today who have gotten less than me (as low as 40) with A+ for all GAs. Does that mean that I must have gotten a high A for GA 1 and high A+s for GA 2 and 3? Or is it something else? I'm a tad confused.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: brenden on December 16, 2013, 02:14:54 pm
Hi guys, hope you all are pleased with your results.  :)

Quick question:
I did Year 12 Psychology this year as a year 11. I received a study score of 46 with
GA 1 - A
GA 2 - A+
GA 3 - A+.
I've seen quite a few students today who have gotten less than me (as low as 40) with A+ for all GAs. Does that mean that I must have gotten a high A for GA 1 and high A+s for GA 2 and 3? Or is it something else? I'm a tad confused.

Thanks in advance.
Yes, I can only imagine you nearly full marked the exam and had your Unit 4 SACs scale up close to full marks, and you would have been .5 of a mark below an A+ for Unit 3. That actually looks quite crazy, well done!

Oh, and I'm giving Brenden almost full credit for my English score!

Same! Without Brenden, I probably would've missed the 25 study score cutoff for my dream uni course.

And I am, of course, declining all credit. I couldn't match the bravery of either of you in a million years. I'm just so proud of you simba, I can't even explain.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Jcp34 on December 16, 2013, 02:16:15 pm
Okay, thank you Brencookie!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: brenden on December 16, 2013, 02:18:58 pm
You're welcome :), well done on such a great score.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: jeanweasley on December 16, 2013, 02:26:06 pm
Awesome work guys! :D
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Joseph41 on December 16, 2013, 02:34:58 pm
ALL OF YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY.
I'm so proud of youu all :)

Hi there, and congratulations! Incredible scores. Well done in particular for HHD!  :)
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Ballerina on December 16, 2013, 03:11:10 pm
Hi, quick question! Has anyone received any scholarship offers from Monash yet? (like a phone call or something?) Even though my ATAR is good I'm feeling somewhat defeated after working so so hard. :/
That said, I hope everyone is happy and proud of their efforts and results!! :)

I received my scholarships from Melb and Monash a few days after my ATAR was released. They gave firm scholarship offers with the title of each scholarship included, and asked that I go online to confirm acceptance of the scholarships. However, RMIT and La Trobe I believe came a week after ATAR release, and were initially vague/provisional. Their offers were along the lines of 'RMIT and La Trobe have expressed interest in offering you a scholarship on the basis you receive a course offer.' In other words, Melb/Monash offered the scholarships before I was informed I was accepted into a course in January, and La Trobe/RMIT mainly prefer to wait until after.

All were through the postal mail.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: duhherro on December 16, 2013, 03:17:29 pm
if you didn't get the clearly in atar for your first pref, and may be considered for a second round, but you end up getting a first round offer for another preference, but you decline it thinking you might get a second round offer, isn't that really risky though as you might not get the second round offer?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: spectroscopy on December 16, 2013, 03:26:23 pm
lmao my teacher whose been teaching psych for like 15 years must be super disappointed in me and in his own score predicting abilities, got 41 with all A+'s and he told me that he: "cant see me getting anywhere lower than 45 worst case scenario, and I'm a chance for a 50"
oh i can never show my face at school again :( going to order a statement of marks and maybe even an inspection of exam to see where i went wrong
oh well
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: teletubbies_95 on December 16, 2013, 03:42:04 pm
Hi there, and congratulations! Incredible scores. Well done in particular for HHD!  :)

HEYY ! :)
Hahah! Thank you so much for your help this year ! :) and thanks to all the ANrs who helped me on the HHD board ! :)
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: abcdqdxD on December 16, 2013, 03:43:37 pm
When the letter arrives in the mail it comes with a form you can send in to get statements of marks etc. (For a fee of course)Generally speaking they are raw scores. Scaled scores have a decimal point, raw scores are whole numbers.

Are you getting a statement of marks for Eco? I'm curious was the A+ cutoff was... :P
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: sjayne on December 16, 2013, 03:52:16 pm
I'd like to get a statement of marks too, but not sure if there's any point
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: psyxwar on December 16, 2013, 03:56:06 pm
I'd like to get a statement of marks too, but not sure if there's any point
i am too; why not?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Mafioso on December 16, 2013, 04:08:16 pm
I got a 50 for one of my subjects. What are my chances of receiving a Premier's Award?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: alchemy on December 16, 2013, 04:17:19 pm
I got a 50 for one of my subjects. What are my chances of receiving a Premier's Award?

50 raw? Then, likely.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 04:24:15 pm
Are you getting a statement of marks for Eco? I'm curious was the A+ cutoff was... :P

Yes I'm going to get one. I'm curious also. I was actually so relieved to see I A+'d the exam, as I completely forgot my responses and hence how well I did :P

Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Mafioso on December 16, 2013, 04:25:02 pm
50 raw? Then, likely.

Yup 50 raw
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: psyxwar on December 16, 2013, 04:27:54 pm
Yup 50 raw
Depends on the subject really. Top 5 in a subject get it.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: evelyn96 on December 16, 2013, 05:22:34 pm
Opinions on whether I should order Statement of Marks or Statement of Study Score? I achieved a 50 in English and would love to know my score on the exam/ my scores for each section- do both give this information? Thanks!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 05:35:29 pm
Opinions on whether I should order Statement of Marks or Statement of Study Score? I achieved a 50 in English and would love to know my score on the exam/ my scores for each section- do both give this information? Thanks!

To know your exam marks you want a statement of marks.

To work out how your study score was calculated e g. Find out scaling/random mathematical thing a statement of study score.

I honestly couldn't read the study score statement as it was to mathematical for me :P
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: QTPi on December 16, 2013, 06:30:15 pm
What is GA 1 GA 2 and GA3?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Lasercookie on December 16, 2013, 06:42:20 pm
What is GA 1 GA 2 and GA3?
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/handbook/2013/AdHand2013_PartC.pdf

Section 8, Page 84 has a table where it tells you what Graded Assessment (GA) corresponds to what assessment task (Unit 3 sacs, Exam 1, Exam 2 etc.) for each subject
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 07:27:14 pm
What is GA 1 GA 2 and GA3?

For most (single exam) subjects:
GA1=u3 sacs
GA2=u4 sacs
GA3=exam

Maths subjects:
GA1=all sacs
GA2=first I.e. No cas exam
GA3=second I.e. Cas active exam

Scored vet subjects=
GA1=internal assessment I.e. Sacs/pracs
GA2=written exam
Scored vet studies have no GA3

Some subjects which have folios etc. May vary. I don't do subjects which have those type of things so have no clue how they work.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Seige on December 16, 2013, 07:55:02 pm
I did average
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: casbanjo on December 16, 2013, 08:55:36 pm
I did average

So, 50 atar then?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: grannysmith on December 16, 2013, 09:03:50 pm
I never knew there was an average ATAR...
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: alondouek on December 16, 2013, 09:39:07 pm
The average ATAR is generally around the 62-65 region, not sure what it was this year.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: casbanjo on December 16, 2013, 09:47:12 pm
I thought the ATAR was a percentile and the average was 50?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: mishamigo on December 16, 2013, 09:51:44 pm
The average ATAR is generally around the 62-65 region, not sure what it was this year.

I thought the ATAR was a percentile and the average was 50?

65.4 for girls and 63.3 for boys.
It is a percentile, but the average is higher because of a large number of students who drop out/fail and hence don't recieve an ATAR. Or, at least, that's what I've been told!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert123 on December 16, 2013, 10:05:58 pm
I thought the ATAR was a percentile and the average was 50?

From what I've heard, it is a ranking with the number of students who did yr 10 for that year level? People that do VCAL or drop out would be hypothetically given the bottom atars and the rest of us the ones above them
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Blues Fan on December 16, 2013, 11:25:57 pm
Does anyone know why sac scores are much lower than intended. Like the lettering doesn't match up?!
E.g. 43/50 = B+ and 46/50 = A
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Lasercookie on December 17, 2013, 12:03:09 am
Does anyone know why sac scores are much lower than intended. Like the lettering doesn't match up?!
E.g. 43/50 = B+ and 46/50 = A
I'm assuming those numbers are the raw sac grades your teacher gave you. SAC scores undergo statistical moderation, which is what all that ranking business and other stuff is. So the scores your teacher gave you won't match to the moderated scores that are used to calculate your study scores. 
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: RakiZtahX123 on December 17, 2013, 12:18:36 am
I really need someones opinion of what i got:

Accounting - 24.28
English - 18.90
Mathematical Methods - 34.48
Specialist - 29.64
Information Technology - 24.48
Physics - 32.15

,by looking at it, how much do you think would this have?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Lasercookie on December 17, 2013, 12:29:55 am
I really need someones opinion of what i got:

Accounting - 24.28
English - 18.90
Mathematical Methods - 34.48
Specialist - 29.64
Information Technology - 24.48
Physics - 32.15

,by looking at it, how much do you think would this have?
Provided that I'm not making a mistake anywhere, but adding up your scaled scores will give you your aggregate (top 4, where english must be in the top 4 and then 10% of the bottom two subjects): 18.90+34.48+29.64+32.15 + 0.10 * 24.28 + 0.10 * 24.48 = 120.046
And then checking the aggregate to ATAR table for this year http://144.140.62.148/pdf/aggregate-ATAR.pdf which is 120.0: 64.40

Is that an example of what you wanted to see? I'm not quite sure what you're asking, or why you're asking it. At this stage it's probably better to start thinking about what you want to do next year. If you do feel disappointed and happened to miss out on the course you wanted to do, have a look at alternative pathways to the course too (similar courses that you can transfer into and so on). Don't be afraid to call up universities and just ask if there's any chance of them giving you an offer and what they'd suggest you to take, simply talking to them might prove valuable.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: lala1911 on December 17, 2013, 03:15:44 am
I've probably seen around five people concerned about their study score between the 50-75 range. Allow me to start off by mentioning that I am in that category, so this isn't just going to be some comforting post by some high achiever.

There are still plenty of opportunities at University for 50-75 ATAR students. You can still do well respected courses such as Business, I.T, Health Sciences, Education and Arts. These jobs can lead you into successful careers and further study. If you do well in your first year, you can transfer into another course (with ease internally afaik if you get good scores and there isn't a major demand).

I'm in contact with a few students doing I.T right now and are already making $40/hr part-time while studying fulltime. I have a friend who scored low 60s and he's working in computer security on great wages. I know some people programming casually and making good $$.

Same applies for non-IT subjects, you could be doing a few Accounting jobs here and there while making some $ and doing a job.

What I'm trying to get at is that you dont need a high ATAR to make money in life. I don't even think there is a strong correlation between ATAR/Financial success. I'd say it's somewhat moderate perhaps - I have no source so don't attack me here mr sauce(wo)men.
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: RakiZtahX123 on December 17, 2013, 08:29:59 am
Thanks lala and laser--
last question, is studying English on tafe the only option to meet the prerequisites if i've got an ss of below 25??? :))
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: TheWackyCheese on December 17, 2013, 10:33:42 am
I got a 42 for Legal Studies which I am ecstatic about. I'm just wondering, what percentile does that place me in the state? If "9% of students will get a score on or above 40" and "2% of students will get a score on or above 45", I'm guessing I'm in the 6% or 7% of students?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: AsianNerd on December 17, 2013, 11:41:04 am
 ;D Im happy with my score even though its not as high as most people here... i never expected to get above 93  :) ;) :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Edward21 on December 18, 2013, 12:10:31 am
I just need to say, I am SO happy my signature is filled now ;) Do the school rankings come out tomorrow??
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: josanator on December 18, 2013, 12:17:46 am
Well done to everyone, hopefully you get where you want to in life  :D
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: H3 on December 18, 2013, 12:42:28 am
I need some advice please! I got 43 for further maths, with
GA 1: A+ (100% sacs) rank 1
GA 2: A+ (40/40)
GA 3: A+

the next highest score in my cohort was 2 42's and then a 41 and then a 40.
I heard that the student who got a 42 lost 4 marks on exam 1 and left out a couple of questions on exam 2. I'm just confused right now because I got an A+ for exam 2 and thought I only lost 5 marks. Could I be wrong and might of lost more marks? but how is it possible to lose more than say 7 marks and still get an A+? my other concern is that my teacher did not actually put me rank 1 despite my sacs which were higher than everyone. Any advice/thoughts ?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: pollos_girl on December 18, 2013, 11:51:04 am
I'm overall really happy with my ATAR- maths saved me but literature was really disappointing.
Anyone here looking at studying medicine? That is my first preference and I'm not sure if my score will make me competitive enough...

Any year 11's wanting tutoring... I'm here :)
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: darklight on December 18, 2013, 03:39:39 pm
Does anyone know when the grade distributions/cutoffs will be out?  :D
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: zvezda on December 18, 2013, 03:44:48 pm
Does anyone know when the grade distributions/cutoffs will be out?  :D

not until next year i think
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: RakiZtahX123 on December 18, 2013, 08:46:06 pm
I got lower than the minimum prerequisites for English.  :)
and most degrees requires a minimum of 25. Are there any ways I could do to still get in to my degree??
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Stick on December 18, 2013, 08:50:48 pm
You may wish to talk to the user 'Special at Specialist' in regards to this. :)
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: darklight on December 20, 2013, 12:50:52 pm
I received my SOM today so for those interested:

Psychology A+ cut-off: 226 to 280 (i.e 113 to 140 out of 140)
Methods Exam 1: 72-80/80 (36-40/40)
Methods Exam 2: 123-160/160 (61.5 - 80/80)

Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: kevleee on December 20, 2013, 01:35:46 pm
I received my SOM today so for those interested:

Psychology A+ cut-off: 226 to 280 (i.e 113 to 140 out of 140)
Methods Exam 1: 72-80/80 (36-40/40)
Methods Exam 2: 123-160/160 (61.5 - 80/80)



Did you email in your application form on Tuesday?
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Yacoubb on December 20, 2013, 01:53:11 pm
Have I missed out on statement of marks applications? Shet :/
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: zvezda on December 20, 2013, 01:54:35 pm
Have I missed out on statement of marks applications? Shet :/

The deadline for applications is still a fair while away. You have plenty of time dw
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: Yacoubb on December 20, 2013, 01:55:23 pm
The deadline for applications is still a fair while away. You have plenty of time dw

Oh Thank God! :) Thanks!
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: EstherR on December 20, 2013, 04:09:45 pm
If you are eligible for SEAS, they will effectively boost your ATAR, but only if the course that you are applying for recognises the SEAS disadvantage. It won't actually change your ATAR or study scores, but the universities will give you a better chance of getting in. They might pretend that your 80 was a 90, even though your certificate still says 80, for example.

If UoM recognises the SEAS you have applied for, then you are set to get Access Melbourne. For example, if you went to an underrepresented school that is on the list of schools they published, then you will automatically be eligible for Access Melbourne and will only require a 78 for Arts/Science/Environments, 88 for Commerce and 95 for Biomedicine, guaranteed entry.

Most people get the offer they want in their first round, but sometimes, if you came very close but didn't quite make the cutoff, they will give you an offer for the second round. Don't count on it though: if you're happy with your second preference and they gave you an offer for the first round, then you should accept it.

You will only receive one offer per round. So if you messed your preferences up, you have until the 24th of December to change them. Otherwise, they start from your first preference and work their way down. If you decide that you want to do your second preference, but you were eligible for your first preference, then you will miss out. That's why it's important to get your preferences right: choose what you want to do first, not what you think you will/won't get into.


Regarding the SEAS at Melbourne aka ACCESS MELBOURNE: I got 77.9 and come from an under represented school, the clearly in for my school is 78 for an arts course at Melbourne
I was wondering if I could still get in even with the .1 difference????????????????????????????
Title: Re: Class of 2013: ATAR and Study Scores Discussion Thread
Post by: melvinpig on December 20, 2013, 06:36:32 pm
Hey guys, congratz on your results (all of you). We all achieved our best!!
Also everyone, I would like to know, I got an Atar of 76.6. I applied for 4 courses, an atar of 86.95,82.65,82.05 and a guarantee one of 70 Respectively on my course selection. I was wondering, would I have any chance to get in any of the top 3 that I listed.

Thank you all!!!!!!!