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Title: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: plsletmedowell on December 16, 2013, 11:34:49 am
Congrats to everyone for your awesome ATARs!  :)

So I didn't study all year and got like 67, the clearly in for my course is like 65, will that change much this year? Will I get into my desired course?

Also if I wanted to transfer to Monash after 1 year, and I didn't meet a certain prerequisite (missed it by 2) I have no chance right? Even though when scaled, it's above?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: mishamigo on December 16, 2013, 11:36:14 am
Courses are here, with 2013 cut-offs!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-features/news-in-education/vce/results-guide


Edit: Yes, the 2013 cut-offs aren't the updated ones. They're the currently available guides. Probably should have made this clearer :P
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: plsletmedowell on December 16, 2013, 11:39:49 am
OMG Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: Lasercookie on December 16, 2013, 11:44:45 am
Courses are here, with 2013 cut-offs!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-features/news-in-education/vce/results-guide
Those are last years cut-offs "Additionally last year’s selection data has been included as a guide (only) for 2014 selection" (you can also see that it's the same as what's on the VTAC website). The 2013 cut-offs won't be released until offers are actually released (since they're dependent on that). It is possible that the clearly in might shift around, generally previous years give a good guide to how it might fluctuate but not always.
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: Special At Specialist on December 16, 2013, 11:46:20 am
Just a quick question: when it says that there are 25% offers below clearly in... is that the amount of offers below the clearly in, or the chance you have of getting in if you are below the clearly in? I thought it was the former but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: Lasercookie on December 16, 2013, 11:50:54 am
Just a quick question: when it says that there are 25% offers below clearly in... is that the amount of offers below the clearly in, or the chance you have of getting in if you are below the clearly in? I thought it was the former but I'm not sure.
It's the amount of offers.

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The % of offers below the Clearly-in-ATAR represents the percentage of offers made to applicants with an ATAR lower than the Clearly-in.
http://www.vtac.edu.au/pdf/publications/indices/11selectionindex.pdf and etc. which you'll find elsewhere on the VTAC site too
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: Special At Specialist on December 16, 2013, 11:56:39 am
Thank you Laserred. Unfortunately, I'm in the dark now because I don't know how many people applied for the course and thus it is almost pointless for me to know the percentage of offers below the clearly-in.
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: rufisino on December 16, 2013, 11:57:17 am
Quick question, the course i want to get into is Commerce/Economics at Monash and has a clearly in of 92.00. I only got 91.30, what are my chances of getting in?
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: BigAl on December 16, 2013, 11:59:23 am
It changes each year...RMIT aerospace eng for example...it was 88.?? 2 years ago but 90.?? last year
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: flyhighx on December 16, 2013, 12:00:34 pm
Hi,
Commerce in Monash is 90.3 ( Clear - in). Does the clear in mean a guaranteed score or is it a minimum requirement score?
If I achieved 92 will I be able to secure a place in this course? Or does it depend on how many people apply?
thanks
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 12:24:47 pm
Hi,
Commerce in Monash is 90.3 ( Clear - in). Does the clear in mean a guaranteed score or is it a minimum requirement score?
If I achieved 92 will I be able to secure a place in this course? Or does it depend on how many people apply?
thanks

Clearly in as the word suggests is the point from which applicants are "clearly in", that is guaranteed an offer. Keep in mind the clearly in changes from year to year based on demand-generally clearly ins hover around the same ATAR give or take 1 or 2. 
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: abcdqdxD on December 16, 2013, 12:32:27 pm
Hi,
Commerce in Monash is 90.3 ( Clear - in). Does the clear in mean a guaranteed score or is it a minimum requirement score?
If I achieved 92 will I be able to secure a place in this course? Or does it depend on how many people apply?
thanks

With 92 you should definitely get in
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: Lasercookie on December 16, 2013, 01:59:07 pm
Thank you Laserred. Unfortunately, I'm in the dark now because I don't know how many people applied for the course and thus it is almost pointless for me to know the percentage of offers below the clearly-in.
I'm not sure if it's something we can guess at how many they'll decide to offer below the clearly in this year, so this is a bit irrelevant and doesn't help you at all. But I think it's interesting anyway.

VTAC actually does publish the numbers of what course has been preferenced and at what position http://www.vtac.edu.au/reports/appstats-ug-2013.html The data is from early November however, I'm guessing the next cycle of data comes after change of preference ends.
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: duhherro on December 16, 2013, 03:13:05 pm
so if you don't get the clearly in atar, do you just get a 2nd round offer?
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: plsletmedowell on December 16, 2013, 03:29:46 pm
I'm guessing if I don't meet the prerequisites I won't have a chance to transfer despite getting HDs?
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: Mr Keshy on December 16, 2013, 03:50:39 pm
How much below the clearly in gives you a reasonable chance, for both 1st and 2nd round offers? Have to figure out whether it's worth applying for a course that I'm 5 points below!
Title: Re: Clearly in ATARS - Will it differ much this year?
Post by: chasej on December 16, 2013, 05:41:35 pm
How much below the clearly in gives you a reasonable chance, for both 1st and 2nd round offers? Have to figure out whether it's worth applying for a course that I'm 5 points below!

It can't hurt applying as if you don't get it, you just get the next pref right?

5 points is a little far off on the top end of ATARs to be honest though you should always list courses in the order you want not the order to get an offer first.