ATAR Notes: Forum
Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: saints1996 on January 05, 2014, 01:17:51 am
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Do you think that my 90.00 will get me into environments for 2014?
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Do you think that my 90.00 will get me into environments for 2014?
Absolutely. The clearly-in last year was 85.20
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:D Can't wait to move over there!
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:D Can't wait to move over there!
To the land of the schizophrenic weather!
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With 90, they'll probably give you their chancellors scholars scholarship. ^.^
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I don't understand why they insist on giving it out only to 99.90+ students for Environments, since nobody with that ATAR ever seems to enrol in the course :/
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Really wish they'd follow UWAs name (after they followed the Melb Model) and call it a "Bachelor of Design."
1. Apparently 7/10 are architecture majors
2. Bachelor of Environments sounds super lame and vague.
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The name is also relevant, since all the majors are directly related to manipulating, observing, creating etc. environments of different kinds. And most of the architecture wannabes drop out or change majors after first year. It's a smaller course but I don't think calling it a Bachelor of Design is accurate at all; majors such as Geomatics, Property, Environmental Science and Environmental Geographies, Politics and Cultures aren't strictly design-related, if at all, and a decent number of people complete them. Just because the course is smaller and fewer students do those majors doesn't invalidate the degree/reduce it to only architecture (see also Bachelors of Oral Health and Agriculture).
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So true about the drop-out rate for Archi. Back when I did it (pre-Melbourne model); we had 150 odd 1st yrs. By the end of 3rd yr, it was down to 50 odd. (Even less go on to complete the actual B./M. Architecture Degree).
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Coming from an actual Environments student's perspective, I have come across many(I really mean many) Environments students who want to do majors other than the design ones and they include Property, Civil Engineering, Environmental Engineering, Construction etc. In saying this, I must agree that renaming the Bachelor of Environments to a "Bachelor of Design" would completely restrict the course towards the Architecture and Urban design majors, which is not what the whole course is about! Other than design, which is one of the many areas of focus within the course, the Bachelor of Environments provides its students with the choice to learn about construction principles, sustainability, management, structural principles, planning, the natural environment, geography, geology, politics, history, environmental science, technological development and the list goes on.
For example, considering that I am an Environments student majoring in Civil Engineering, I have felt that the course, when possibly compared to doing a Civil Engineering major through the Bachelor of Science, has not only provided me with the scientific knowledge I must know about structures, but has also enabled me to "think outside the box" by considering the social and environmental impact that these structures may have on the world for instance.
Therefore, my point is that saying that the Bachelor of Environments is strictly design related would be an inaccurate and a quite ignorant assertion as the course, just like Science, Commerce, Biomed etc. allows its students to choose from a wide range of studies(like the ones I mentioned above).