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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: Belgarion on February 14, 2014, 08:27:33 pm
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Hey,
I just wanted to confirm something with you guys because i have always been told this but have never actually had it confirmed. Doing a summer breadth and winter breadth in 2nd year leaves you with the option of having to do no breadths in 3rd year right? Effectively reducing the subjects from 4 per semester to 3 per semester in third year? I believe it is called underloading.
Thanks
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Hey,
I just wanted to confirm something with you guys because i have always been told this but have never actually had it confirmed. Doing a summer breadth and winter breadth in 2nd year leaves you with the option of having to do no breadths in 3rd year right? Effectively reducing the subjects from 4 per semester to 3 per semester in third year? I believe it is called underloading.
Thanks
I believe underloading is less than 37.5pts, so 2 subjects or less. Doing 3 subjects is still considered normal. Someone correct me if I'm wrong :)
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Hey,
I just wanted to confirm something with you guys because i have always been told this but have never actually had it confirmed. Doing a summer breadth and winter breadth in 2nd year leaves you with the option of having to do no breadths in 3rd year right? Effectively reducing the subjects from 4 per semester to 3 per semester in third year? I believe it is called underloading.
Thanks
That's right and that's exactly what I've just done (finished yesterday)
As far as whether or not to call it underloading, it may not be technically called that as jtvg suggests, but yep, colloquially that's what everyone would call it.
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You could just do breath in every single semester of first and second year (4 breadths) and then do no breadths in third year but take 4 x core subjects in third year instead of taking 3 subjects a semester...you only need to do 6 breadths so there would be no reason to take breadth in third year if you did it that way instead.
But if you want to take 3 subjects per semester you would need to either extend your degree or take summer/winter subjects, yes.
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Thanks for the responses guys. I wasn't too concerned with what it was called just with if it could be done so dont stress too much about that part.
@simpak i have done 2 breadths last year and i am planning to do another one each semester this year as well as the summer breadth ive completed and a winter breadth. Im not quite sure what you mean in the first part of your response about 4 core subjects? Im in biomed so in 3rd year do we not have a core subject we have to take as well as 2 subjects for our major and usually a breadth per sem? So by doing the breadths in the breaks during second year i will not have to do them in third year?
Thanks
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You only need to take four breadth subjects across your degree as opposed to the maximum of six; you don't need to do four of them in second year to avoid doing breadth in third year. That said, taking a winter and summer subject would still allow you to have fewer subjects per semester in third year.
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i suggest people do their breaths after they do all their core subjects..but that's just me because I'm bad at multitasking and can't be stuffed doing subjects I'm really into and subjects i have no interest in at the same time.
so eg. finishing your major by 2 and a half years and doing all the breaths in the last semester
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Personally I love having breadths whilst I'm doing core. It changes things up :) Too much biomed is just that, too much!
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I don't think people should impose their personal preferences here; some people take breadths they enjoy, others prefer to take more science-based subjects because they enjoy them more, others take breadths that are easy to lighten the workload of their core subjects, etc. etc.
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wait. i thought you had to do either 6 breadth or 4 breadths and 2 selectives? Could you explain what you mean by this levilamp?
You only need to take four breadth subjects across your degree as opposed to the maximum of six; you don't need to do four of them in second year to avoid doing breadth in third year. That said, taking a winter and summer subject would still allow you to have fewer subjects per semester in third year.
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You can do 6 breadths (subjects not in your discipline), or 4 breadths and 2 selective a (subjects still within your discipline but not necessarily towards your intended major).
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You can do 6 breadths (subjects not in your discipline), or 4 breadths and 2 selective a (subjects still within your discipline but not necessarily towards your intended major).
It sounds as if levilamp is implying that we need not do 6 subjects but can just do 4. Im familiar with the concept of 6 breadths or 4 breadths & 2 selectives but i seem to be misunderstanding what he means.
In second year i have my core (which is 2 subjects in 1 in biomed), an elective and a breadth per sem.
On top of this i have done a summer breath and am planning on a winter breadth which would take my breath total to 6.
I know that instead of that, i could say do instead of 1 breath per semester in my second year, i could do a selective each semester.
These are the only 2 options right? Unless i am getting something wrong
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I just meant you don't necessarily have to 6 breadths, but that you can replace two of them with selectives :) Then if you only did four breadths in 1/2nd year you could do two selectives in 3rd year if that's something you'd like to do.
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Minimum requirement: you have to do at least two breadths at level 1 and one each at level 2 and level 3.
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Minimum requirement: you have to do at least two breadths at level 1 and one each at level 2 and level 3.
I'm not sure if that's the case for arts, but definitely not biomed or science I don't think.
Biomed science requirements: 4 subjects of breadth (min), with at least 1 subject at level 2 or level 3.
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Minimum requirement: you have to do at least two breadths at level 1 and one each at level 2 and level 3.
I dont think we have to do a level 3 breadth
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I'm not sure if that's the case for arts, but definitely not biomed or science I don't think.
Biomed science requirements: 4 subjects of breadth (min), with at least 1 subject at level 2 or level 3.
I dont think we have to do a level 3 breadth
Well there you go - it might just be an Arts thing then.
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Well there you go - it might just be an Arts thing then.
I'm glad you said it actually, I have a friend in arts I need to talk to now.... #whoops
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this is from the handbook for Arts:
The Bachelor of Arts requires the successful completion of 300 points (24 x 12.5-credit point subjects) comprising:
225 points of Arts discipline subjects including:
at least six arts discipline subjects (75 points) at level 1, including one Arts Foundation Subjects;
at least six arts discipline subjects (75 points) at level 2;
at least six arts discipline subjects (75 points) at level 3.
Students usually complete 100 points of study at each of first, second and third year levels.
50 points of breadth subjects including:
a minimum of 12.50 points and maximum of 37.50 at level one;
at least 12.5 points at level two or three
25 points of Arts discipline or breadth subjects at level 1,2 or 3
no more than a total of 125 points may be taken at level 1
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this is from the handbook for Arts:
The Bachelor of Arts requires the successful completion of 300 points (24 x 12.5-credit point subjects) comprising:
225 points of Arts discipline subjects including:
at least six arts discipline subjects (75 points) at level 1, including one Arts Foundation Subjects;
at least six arts discipline subjects (75 points) at level 2;
at least six arts discipline subjects (75 points) at level 3.
Students usually complete 100 points of study at each of first, second and third year levels.
50 points of breadth subjects including:
a minimum of 12.50 points and maximum of 37.50 at level one;
at least 12.5 points at level two or three
25 points of Arts discipline or breadth subjects at level 1,2 or 3
no more than a total of 125 points may be taken at level 1
Yeah, breadth is the same for everything then
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a minimum of 12.50 points and maximum of 37.50 at level one;
at least 12.5 points at level two or three
25 points of Arts discipline or breadth subjects at level 1,2 or 3
Hmm, I've misunderstood this bit apparently.
Yeah, breadth is the same for everything then
Not quite, and this I'm sure about - Commerce students can take up to 8 breadth subjects, with a minimum of 4.
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Not quite, and this I'm sure about - Commerce students can take up to 8 breadth subjects, with a minimum of 4.
Do we really count them though?
Ok I may have forgotten about commerce. Whoops