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VCE Stuff => VCE English Studies => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE Literature => Topic started by: Capricious on November 02, 2007, 06:45:27 pm
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Hey guys who else here is doing Literature? Anyone else silly enough (like me) to have done it as their sole English and seriously underestimated the difficulty of the exam? Heh heh. Ah well it's almost over now anyway, what texts are you writing on in the exam? I'm doing Lear and The Hamilton Case. Lear's great but there's always so so much to write on you can lose track :S How many pages do you guys usually write in a practice essay (and do you get it done in the hour)? I just hope the Lit examiners will be forgiving with my handwriting...
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I'm doing Sugar and Other Stories and Wright's poetry. I'm kind of just excited to get Lit out of the way. I know what I'm going to talk about (probably). I usually get to about 1000 words (just) in the hour for my first one, a little less for the second. I too hope they are fogiving on the handwriting situation. Mine has gotten terrible recently.
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I'm doing Lear and Gatsby. Considered doing Wright's poetry.
I think it's mainly difficult because it's hard to know what is expected of you, if that makes sense. Like you can't read a whole essay on the examiners report, like you can with english. So I write whole essays and then have no idea if what I'm writing is relevant
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I'm doing Sugar and Other Stories and Wright's poetry. I'm kind of just excited to get Lit out of the way. I know what I'm going to talk about (probably). I usually get to about 1000 words (just) in the hour for my first one, a little less for the second. I too hope they are fogiving on the handwriting situation. Mine has gotten terrible recently.
Yeah a week ago (and even a couple of days ago), I was freaking out about the Lit exam but now I'm just so over stressing about it. Handwriting and Lit don't go together I've decided :P
edit: yeah I totally agree goosefraba, and even the examiners can't make up their minds...I went to the VATE day and got hand outs which had sample analyses - and they were all a different style to eachother. Some of them had really formulaic introductions which the examiner reports always say not to do...
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haha on the subject of handwriting, i was just reading the 2006 assessors report and it says -
Students should be aware that poor spelling and handwriting are not penalised
then goes on to say something about them needing to be able to read it haha.
Capricious, I don't suppose you'd be able to post some of those samples up here? or on the gmail account? I have absolutely none, because there are never any lit lectures in my area. But if you don't have a scanner don't worry haha
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Haha there are some funny excerpts of 'poor responses' in the examiners reports...
Shakespeare was obviously going through a mid-life crisis
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is anybody here doing Donne's poetry, the white earth, or Antigone?
yeah thank GOD about the handwriting. mine begins legible then turns to utter crap
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greetings english nerds :)
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haha greetings :D
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in reply to how many pages...i say i do about 4 with about 1000 words...Im doin Lear and Austen's sense and sensibility..both very easy to write on but hard to make it sound sophisticated...does anyone here sound as good as the model essays? i couldn't believe it when i read the model answers!
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does anyone here sound as good as the model essays? i couldn't believe it when i read the model answers!
god no. i read them last night. rather depressing
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does anyone here sound as good as the model essays? i couldn't believe it when i read the model answers!
god no. i read them last night. rather depressing
Where?
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I don't do year 12 lit, but I'm doing year 11 lit this year ^____^
I don't think I will be doing lit next year though ><;
For my exam we're doing Antigone..I think.. ><; And possibly poetry? I don't remember O_O
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Where?
VCAA assessment reports. They only give really short excerpts though
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we did a prac exam, like most schools, and it depressed me INTENSELY when one of my best friends got 40/40. gaaaaaaaah. is anyone like me, and incredibly unprepared for thursday? i have psych the same day*groan*
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we did a prac exam, like most schools, and it depressed me INTENSELY when one of my best friends got 40/40. gaaaaaaaah. is anyone like me, and incredibly unprepared for thursday? i have psych the same day*groan*
Gah 40/40? Can I swap brains with your friend for Thursday? I'm so unprepared and it's my only English. We don't have practice exams at my school except for English. I've being doing practice ones and I do ok on Lear and fail miserably on my other text. My expression is terrible and it doesn't help when the lecturer at VATE said 'Oh the essays that get 20/20, I probably couldn't write in a week' :shock: So you know there's a lot of hope for the rest of us :P
@Goosefraba: they are depressing =( I'd upload the ones I have but I don't think I have the pword for the gmail account.
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we did a prac exam, like most schools, and it depressed me INTENSELY when one of my best friends got 40/40. gaaaaaaaah. is anyone like me, and incredibly unprepared for thursday? i have psych the same day*groan*
Gah 40/40? Can I swap brains with your friend for Thursday? I'm so unprepared and it's my only English. We don't have practice exams at my school except for English. I've being doing practice ones and I do ok on Lear and fail miserably on my other text. My expression is terrible and it doesn't help when the lecturer at VATE said 'Oh the essays that get 20/20, I probably couldn't write in a week' :shock: So you know there's a lot of hope for the rest of us :P
@Goosefraba: they are depressing =( I'd upload the ones I have but I don't think I have the pword for the gmail account.
lol i want to swap brains with her too... she also got full marks on the practice english one. hence me studying lit with her tmrw. i do english as well, which is so much easier than lit. we have practice exams for every subject, to see where we're sitting, i guess.
i do okay on Antigone but terribly on Donne or The White Earth. Books are a lot harder than plays or poetry i think.
whats VATE? was tht the melbourne lectures? my parents refused to let me go to those cos i live 4hrs away from Melbourne.
i got 6/20 for one. and 13/20 for another. tht was with no study. with study im guessing ill get 13-14 for both.
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lol i want to swap brains with her too... she also got full marks on the practice english one. hence me studying lit with her tmrw. i do english as well, which is so much easier than lit. we have practice exams for every subject, to see where we're sitting, i guess.
i do okay on Antigone but terribly on Donne or The White Earth. Books are a lot harder than plays or poetry i think.
whats VATE? was tht the melbourne lectures? my parents refused to let me go to those cos i live 4hrs away from Melbourne.
i got 6/20 for one. and 13/20 for another. tht was with no study. with study im guessing ill get 13-14 for both.
Nice scores for no study! It's hard to study for Lit because you don't know what to expect. I got full marks on a few of my Lear essays but sometimes I can do horribly on them if the passages suck. But my teacher's not an examiner and I suspect she's marking fairly easily...Yeah the VATE lectures were the ones at unimelb - I live about 2 hours away so I didn't have it as bad as you. They were good and bad, bad being one of the lecturers used some third year lecture notes from a Uni in the States as their notes (yay google) and another recycled the ones she used last year (which I had already gotten from a friend =p) But they were good for saying what you had to do and what you shouldn't do, I'm glad I don't do English because I'd get waaay too confused between the different styles.
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lol i want to swap brains with her too... she also got full marks on the practice english one. hence me studying lit with her tmrw. i do english as well, which is so much easier than lit. we have practice exams for every subject, to see where we're sitting, i guess.
i do okay on Antigone but terribly on Donne or The White Earth. Books are a lot harder than plays or poetry i think.
whats VATE? was tht the melbourne lectures? my parents refused to let me go to those cos i live 4hrs away from Melbourne.
i got 6/20 for one. and 13/20 for another. tht was with no study. with study im guessing ill get 13-14 for both.
Nice scores for no study! It's hard to study for Lit because you don't know what to expect. I got full marks on a few of my Lear essays but sometimes I can do horribly on them if the passages suck. But my teacher's not an examiner and I suspect she's marking fairly easily...Yeah the VATE lectures were the ones at unimelb - I live about 2 hours away so I didn't have it as bad as you. They were good and bad, bad being one of the lecturers used some third year lecture notes from a Uni in the States as their notes (yay google) and another recycled the ones she used last year (which I had already gotten from a friend =p) But they were good for saying what you had to do and what you shouldn't do, I'm glad I don't do English because I'd get waaay too confused between the different styles.
lol considering my friend did no study and got full marks... maybe i shud hire a hit on her lol. its not like studying the actual texts tht im bad at, its more knowing how to analyse them. we did NO practices before the practice exam and to sit down and see 3 passages with the word "discuss" above them was FAIRLY daunting. im like 'discuss....what?' so that was fairly annoying. what was funny tho was looking around at everyone doing the prac in our school gym and everyone had the exact same look on their face, that being 'huuuuuuuh?' so that was kinda comforting XD
my teacher marks REALLY harshly and we have a theory tht he is in love with my friend cos no WAY did one of hers deserve full marks, she had maybe 4 quotes and they didnt relate to her point attt alllll.
english is so much easier. like, a million times easier. all u need really is to express urself coherently, and have a good knowledge of the text and bam! tht right there is 7/10 for an essay. doing english has helped with lit kinda.
shiiite still procrastinating...
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Yeeeeeeah. I'm procrastinating too. I'm doing lit, but thank goodness, I did english last Friday, so I at least have one english under my belt. I think it went okay, so I can afford to go a little... worse on my lit exam.
I'm doing Donne poetry and Ragtime, a novel which I'm pretty sure no one else is doing. Well, maybe like fifty people in the state. Obscure. But yeah, the practice exams are so painful. I find it really hard, because I have trouble with the time limit. I could write so much... but there's no time. I didn't have this trouble in english. :(
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I have Psych on the same day too. Ugh. I can't believe the Lit exam is going to go until 5:15.
I haven't studied nearly as much for Lit as for all my other subjects, fotunately it doesn't seem to matter though. I get my texts and I feel ready all the same, I just need to go over my notes. My teacher told me not to bother studying too much for Lit (apparently I don't need it) which has been a good excuse for me to focus a little more on all my other subjects.
I'm hoping to get ~18 for both essays, though I wouldn't be surprised if I got ~16-17 scores. I reeeeally want a 45+ for Lit (though I'd settle for anything above 40).
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im doing washington square and chekhov's three sisters.
difficult to write on but once you're on a role it just flows... but having a drama background helps immensly when studying a play.
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I'm writing on Lear and Ragtime tomorrow.
And I know - lucky us who get to do psych and lit!!!
I agree, it does help to write with a drama background. I took theatre studies last year, and drama this, and so much crosses over! It's brilliant!
And does anyone else struggle with intros? And how the heck do you write them!!! I've previously just been jumping right in, but our teacher seems to think it's a good idea to have an intro...
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our douche of a teacher [yes, we all lover her SOO much *note the sarcasm*] kept on telling us that we need to have an interesting first line and then jump straight into the analysis.
apparently, the assessors are more interested in what you've got to say in an analytical sense then how you introduce your piece.
which is probably true...