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VCE Stuff => VCE English Studies => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE English Language => Topic started by: aqple on March 17, 2014, 08:48:48 pm

Title: Are "gonna" "lotta" "outta" examples of elision?
Post by: aqple on March 17, 2014, 08:48:48 pm
Just a tad confused over this. My teacher said they were contractions.
Title: Re: Are "gonna" "lotta" "outta" examples of elision?
Post by: alchemy on March 17, 2014, 09:55:34 pm
Just a tad confused over this. My teacher said they were contractions.

They are elisions. Contractions (such as ‘cannot’) are set forms that have morphologized (can be identified as a meaningful unit), whereas elisions aren’t.

EDIT: Wrote "contractions" twice (in place of elisions at the end of the sentence). Fixed now.
Title: Re: Are "gonna" "lotta" "outta" examples of elision?
Post by: aqple on March 17, 2014, 10:09:37 pm
Oh right, thanks!  :D
Title: Re: Are "gonna" "lotta" "outta" examples of elision?
Post by: hairychinesekid on March 29, 2014, 10:19:25 am
Contractions (such as ‘cannot’) are set forms that have morphologized (can be identified as a meaningful unit), whereas contractions aren’t.
Are you sure about that?
Title: Re: Are "gonna" "lotta" "outta" examples of elision?
Post by: ealam2 on March 29, 2014, 07:22:23 pm
Gonna, lotta and outta are examples of elision- a phonological process (sounds run into each other for fast and fluent speech).

Contractions (more of a morphological process than a phonological one): you would generally talk about them when you're pertaining to written texts like those words with apostrophes like can't, won't, shouldn't

Hope this clears things up a bit! :)
Title: Re: Are "gonna" "lotta" "outta" examples of elision?
Post by: alchemy on March 30, 2014, 10:04:31 am
Are you sure about that?

http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Elision.html

Quote: "Contraction differs from elision in that contractions are set forms that have morphologized, but elisions are not."
Title: Re: Are "gonna" "lotta" "outta" examples of elision?
Post by: maurlock on March 30, 2014, 11:11:26 am
http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Elision.html

Quote: "Contraction differs from elision in that contractions are set forms that have morphologized, but elisions are not."
He is referring to you having written contractions twice
Title: Re: Are "gonna" "lotta" "outta" examples of elision?
Post by: alchemy on March 30, 2014, 11:34:05 am
He is referring to you having written contractions twice

Oh LMAO! Sorry, my stupid mistake!