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VCE Stuff => VCE English Studies => VCE Subjects + Help => VCE English Language => Topic started by: carbon12 on March 20, 2014, 09:09:57 pm
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Hey guys.
I am just wondering how many examples would be required to be given for a 4 mark question asking.
Discuss turn taking strategies in the text and explain how they help to build rapport and cooperation between the interlocutors.
This is in relation to a recent sac I was given in which I gave two examples and explained each of them well (the teacher said). But got marked down for not having enough examples.
I have done all the VCAA exams and have noticed a pattern of 1 mark per example and 1 mark for linking the example to the question and explaining it.
Am I correct in saying that I should get more than 2 marks for giving two examples and explaining each thoroughly?
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I got my practice SAC back today and looking at the 4 mark questions, I gave two examples with an explanation and got full marks. This is also the case in VCAA exams. Your teacher is wrong to say more than two examples are needed to get 4 marks because just listing examples will not get a mark without an explanation. So yeah, you are correct!
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Thank you for the reply. I thought that this was the case of 1 mark per example and explanation.
I complained to my English language teacher today about it but she was stubborn expecting me to add more examples for a 4 mark question. Tomorrow I will have a chat to the head of campus and hopefully get it sorted as it could possibly throw off my ranking.
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You are most certainly NOT correct - the VCAA marking system for EL is holistic - that is, the marks are for how well you answer the whole question, not a mark for x and a mark for y. USUALLY it is a good hint as to how much information you should write, but there have been cases where I believe they were expecting more information than what was hinted at in the points. Part of the mark is for how you phrase your answer too - if you write in dot-points you may not get full marks.
In any case, your teacher is free to use whatever marking scheme they like, as long as they mark consistently.
I am a teacher and have been an examination marker.
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You are most certainly NOT correct - the VCAA marking system for EL is holistic - that is, the marks are for how well you answer the whole question, not a mark for x and a mark for y. USUALLY it is a good hint as to how much information you should write, but there have been cases where I believe they were expecting more information than what was hinted at in the points. Part of the mark is for how you phrase your answer too - if you write in dot-points you may not get full marks.
In any case, your teacher is free to use whatever marking scheme they like, as long as they mark consistently.
I am a teacher and have been an examination marker.
According to the OP, the teacher said that the examples were explained well but there needed to be more examples to receive full marks. The teacher wanted more examples, however, examples don't get a mark if they aren't explained? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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You don't get a mark for simply identifying or listing examples. You need to explain them and link them back to the text.
....and this is what I need to work on as well, haha! SAC tomorrow. :(
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According to the OP, the teacher said that the examples were explained well but there needed to be more examples to receive full marks. The teacher wanted more examples, however, examples don't get a mark if they aren't explained? Correct me if I'm wrong.
That is the way that I would normally mark, but as I said before - teachers are allowed to use whatever marking scheme they want, as long as they mark consistently. Perhaps the teacher wanted more examples which had the same explanation? e.g. a couple of examples of jargon and an explanation of the function of jargon in the text? Or perhaps she wanted more examples with more explanation.