ATAR Notes: Forum
VCE Stuff => Victorian Technical Score Discussion => Topic started by: Jordan Furlong on April 04, 2014, 06:25:02 pm
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Hi everyone.
I'm dreaming big and want a high atar (90 plus). I have good self-motivation usually and do well in school (A grading). I'm in year 11 but doing Revolutions 3/4, Psych 3/4 aswell as my 1/2's French, Literature, Methods, Chemistry and plan to pick up specialist in 2015. So far my revolutions sac's are ranked about 3rd-5th and my psych sacs are equal first in the class. I would like your opinions about whether I can get 40 or 45 plus raw scores, tips, whether the school will affect me, and also if being in a rural school will improve choice selection by government, uni's, scholarships etc. Thanks
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Well I can't see why, with a bit of work that it sounds like you're already putting in, you couldn't get those scores :)
For the rural part, pretty sure we get extra points added on to our ATAR at a lot of uni's depending on the postcode zoning of where you live. CSU I think is about 5. I think Melbourne Uni has Access Melbourne though?
And also, as someone else from a little rural school - virtual high five, mate. Good luck.
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Yeah as others said, there is no reason to not get 40+ if you are such a motivated and successful student. Personally I think that it is "belief" that can get us to what we want. I admit that schools slightly do affect our results, but don't worry about it too much. I even know a guy who got an ATAR of 99+ in a school in which the percentage of students who get 40+ ss is less than 4%. So again, If you genuinely believe that you can achieve a 95+ ATAR, you definitely will. :)
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Hey guys. It's totally doable. OP, keep doing what you're doing man, awesome job! I also went to a pretty bad school (though it got better before I graduated). The fellow above me can attest to the truth of my statements! In 2011, no one in my school scored above 40 in English, and then in 2012 four of us did. Doesn't sound like much but it felt impossible before we did it. My friend got a 50, I got a bit below that, and there was a 44 and a 40, all in a school that was meant to be a shitty public school. It may seem impossible for two straight years, but even when it feels that way, I guarantee you can do it. I was totally consumed by VCE (like... TOTALLY), but I used to use this little piece of deductive logic to keep going even though t perceptions were so illogical and distorted:
1. It is possible for all above average students to do exceptionally well.
2. I am an above average student
Conclusion: Therefore, it is possible for me to score exceptionally well.
If you think (1) is true and (2) is true, the conclusion is impossible to be false. Take it with you through VCE.
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My school ranked in the bottom ten in the state (median SS wise). There were still two of us who broke 95 (the only two who also broke 80, whoops haha). Don't let your school define your ATAR. Statistically, it is an enormous disadvantage, but in every set of statistics there are outliers. With what you've described, I have no doubt that you can be that outlier :)
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My school ranked in the bottom ten in the state (median SS wise). There were still two of us who broke 95 (the only two who also broke 80, whoops haha). Don't let your school define your ATAR. Statistically, it is an enormous disadvantage, but in every set of statistics there are outliers. With what you've described, I have no doubt that you can be that outlier :)
Much respect.
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It's absolutely possible, you just have to put your mind to it and work hard over the next two years. If you can be rank 1 on sacs, then you'll be less affected by your school but will still have to do well on exams.
Try and find others at your school who want to do as well, stick with them and motivate each other, work together and help each other out. I went to a school that is ranked slightly higher than yours (but not by much) and still did well (97+), along with a few others. We set ourselves goals and tried to help each other move forward and achieve them.
There are numerous examples of people on AtarNotes who haven't come from the best areas or schools, and have gone on to show everyone what you can really do if you keep working hard and don't let the situation and environment around you affect you. There was user last year from a country school that hadn't really had any great results before, who went on and got 99+.
Don't let it hold you back, aim high and work hard to achieve your goals, and maybe stick around on AtarNotes for a bit of help here and there, you'll pick up small things you might not have been aware of otherwise.
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The dux of my old school in 2012 had an ATAR of 96.xx, last year the dux had an ATAR of 99.80. I think this goes to show that anyone who has the ability and is willing to put in the hard yards can do exceptionally well in VCE, irregardless of the school they attend.
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If you can be rank 1 on sacs, then you'll be less affected by your school but will still have to do well on exams.
If you finish up rank 1 I thought you weren't affected by your school at all ?
I hope that's the case anyway :(
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If you finish up rank 1 I thought you weren't affected by your school at all ?
I hope that's the case anyway :(
Your school can influence you implicitly. Eg. Having a bunch of potheads around you.
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There are many schools that are considered "Under represented" yet still manage to pull high 99+
Anything is possible, just got to put in the hard yards
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Much respect.
Appreciate that :)
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Thanks everyone for the feedback, it is genuinely very helpful!
Also I have just found out about muep and umep courses and i'm really interested in hearing your opinions. If I did 5 subjects next year (French, Literature, Methods, Chemistry, Specialist) would the workload be to big to add a umep course?? I've thought about dropping chemistry, but is it more sensible to keep a science subject? Thanks :)