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Title: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: deborahchew on June 11, 2014, 02:25:41 pm
Hi everyone! This is my second time taking the GAT and I thought it was pretty easy and fun to do this year.

Here are some tips for future GAT takers:
- Since English is the 'most important' subject, instead of spending 30 minutes on each essay, I think it's definitely more useful to take 40 mins (15 mins reading time, 40 mins essay 1, 40 mins essay 2, 90 mins MCQ, 10 mins shading)
- Do the essays first (requires more thinking and effort)
- I found it useful to find and do all the humanities questions first and then the maths and science, instead of jumping between the two areas
- During the 15 mins reading time, I outlined how I was going to approach the essays (alternatively, you could answer the first 10 MCQ's in your head)
- For essay 1, instead of doing a traditional essay, I think examiners like to see some creativity so I did a magazine article, for essay 2, I did a letter to the editor (you could do a speech, opinion article etc)
- Don't SLEEP (half my year fell asleep, you're already there so you might as well try your best, you have nothing to lose!)

Now, for the 2014 cohort, what did you guys think? What did you write for the second essay? And since we all have the question booklet, are there any MCQ's you weren't too sure of? Fire away!
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: walkec on June 11, 2014, 02:45:23 pm
I quite enjoyed the GAT today, as weird as that sounds to say. I had a lot of fun writing both the writing tasks. For the first task I did a speech as a student trying to remove the stigma attached to chess to encourage his classmates to take up chess as a pastime. I also liked the prompts for the second task because we did surveillance as our issue for language analysis in English this year, so I had many examples I could draw on to make my piece stand out  :) I wrote the second piece as an argumentative essay.

MCQ were pretty standard. A few whacky ones thrown in for good measure, but they were what I was expecting. I do agree about putting more time into the writing tasks. I spent about 45 minutes on each writing task, so it's a little bit longer than suggested but not too much.
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Zealous on June 11, 2014, 02:45:26 pm
Here are some tips for future GAT takers:
- Since English is the 'most important' subject, instead of spending 30 minutes on each essay, I think it's definitely more useful to take 40 mins (15 mins reading time, 40 mins essay 1, 40 mins essay 2, 90 mins MCQ, 10 mins shading)
8 seconds to shade each bubble? That's very generous of you.  ;D

I definitely agree regarding English, there's no harm in spending more time than suggested on the English essays. I certainly did today and I think my pieces turned out much better than last year.
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: deborahchew on June 11, 2014, 02:53:56 pm
8 seconds to shade each bubble? That's very generous of you.  ;D

Well, I factored in the OCD people who need to shade every single inch in that bubble  ;)

I loved how they put in a topic that is very current (surveillance state, security cameras, privacy). I'm sure the examiners will have very interesting essays to read.

Oh, and I enjoyed the lights flashing on and off question as well as the deciphering the code one (made me feel almost like a spy)!

The map of New York City did my head in... anyone else struggle with that?
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: lmnop on June 11, 2014, 03:05:51 pm
It was fairly standard for me, I've mainly had problems with some of those text analysis questions.

Btw, what do you put for that question which asks you name an area which doesn't refer back to any early occupation during the 17th century or something? (It isn't Beaver Street is it?)         
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Vermilliona on June 11, 2014, 03:08:42 pm
Nah I thought beaver street did refer to early occupation coz there was a big fur industry + it was all forests and stuff. I put Brooklyn bridge
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Phy124 on June 11, 2014, 03:13:55 pm
Suggested multiple choice answers are as follows:

1.     C
2.     C
3.     C
4.     C
5.     C
6.     C
7.     C
8.     C
9.     C
10.   C
11.   C
12.   C
13.   C
14.   C
15.   C
16.   C
17.   C
18.   C
19.   C
20.   C
21.   C
22.   C
23.   C
24.   C
25.   C
26.   C
27.   C
28.   C
29.   C
30.   C
31.   C
32.   C
33.   C
34.   C
35.   C
36.   C
37.   C
38.   C
39.   C
40.   C
41.   C
42.   C
43.   C
44.   C
45.   C
46.   C
47.   C
48.   C
49.   C
50.   C
51.   C
52.   C
53.   C
54.   C
55.   C
56.   C
57.   C
58.   C
59.   C
60.   C
61.   C
62.   C
63.   C
64.   C
65.   C
66.   C
67.   C
68.   C
69.   C
70.   C

Hope you all did well 8)
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: deborahchew on June 11, 2014, 03:22:06 pm
Btw, what do you put for that question which asks you name an area which doesn't refer back to any early occupation during the 17th century or something? (It isn't Beaver Street is it?)         

I put Wall Street, but reading it over again, just realised Wall Street = trading. Hahaha. Got that one wrong.

What about the art one? Was choosing between dynamic and vibrant or melodramatic and daring. Art students, help!
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: deborahchew on June 11, 2014, 03:23:17 pm
I have seen great intolerance in the support for intolerance...self-defeating or hypocritical?
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Mieow on June 11, 2014, 03:35:35 pm
Suggested multiple choice answers are as follows:

Hope you all did well 8)
I was so close  :'(

Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: lmnop on June 11, 2014, 03:38:49 pm
I put Wall Street, but reading it over again, just realised Wall Street = trading. Hahaha. Got that one wrong.

What about the art one? Was choosing between dynamic and vibrant or melodramatic and daring. Art students, help!

Really, I thought the "wall" was in reference to the how fortified the area was (in the context of the question). I put "dynamic and vibrant" for the art one, mainly because of the phrase "brightly coloured" which sticks out somewhere in the passage.
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Yacoubb on June 11, 2014, 03:46:10 pm
Maths questions were REALLY easy! Really happy with my first piece for English, not too happy for my second piece though. I think I thought I had less time than I actually did, and so I rushed it. The humanities based questions I really just guessed tbh. I'm just glad it's over!

 
I have seen great intolerance in the support for intolerance...self-defeating or hypocritical?



I did hypocritical!
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Jono_CP on June 11, 2014, 03:47:55 pm
For the persuasive piece I mentioned as my outside sources: Mohammed Ali and juxtaposed his appreciation for cameras with the reclusive Michael Jackson.

Since I couldn't get any poignant quotes for the prompts, had to rely on George Orwell's 1984 dystopian novel for the 'privacy/government' prompt. Also mentioned Tony Abbott presumably 'tapping' the phones of Australian's according to Clive Palmer in the House of Representatives.

Not my best written pieces to be brutally honest - had some trouble with the specific contexts of the prompts in question.

I legitimately guessed every single multiple choice question. Was not 100% sure on any one of them - especially the maths/science ones. God help me...
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: noneofyourbusiness on June 11, 2014, 03:54:14 pm
I had no idea what was going on in some parts and had to rush the last 10 questions. What are your thoughts on The Tantrum/hair cutting one, the baseball one and code words one.
Thanks
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: lmnop on June 11, 2014, 04:18:47 pm
Also, what do you guys get for that question which asks you calculate the average time it
takes to produce x pieces of timber?
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: RKTR on June 11, 2014, 04:45:42 pm
Also, what do you guys get for that question which asks you calculate the average time it
takes to produce x pieces of timber?
10
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: deborahchew on June 11, 2014, 04:50:23 pm
I had no idea what was going on in some parts and had to rush the last 10 questions. What are your thoughts on The Tantrum/hair cutting one, the baseball one and code words one.
Thanks

Tantrum: the loss she experienced was her own special view of her mother, the poem portrays the child's reaction with incomprehension and the last line evokes a sense of sad resignation (this could be objective detachment)

Baseball: disjunction between the setting and nature

Codes: GARY, BY, LENA, SAUL and JAKE
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: deborahchew on June 11, 2014, 04:53:33 pm
For the first essay, I wrote as a Grandmaster from Russia (obviously) in the 'World Chess Magazine' giving a Chess 101. For the second one, I referenced Edward Snowden, Australian wiretapping of embassies in Jakarta, 1984 and Stasiland... wish I had put in something about the Fifth Estate!

Overall had good fun doing the paper. The 3 hr 15 mins well prepares us for the year end English exam
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: RKTR on June 11, 2014, 05:06:55 pm
First one I wrote as an international chess player. Second one i mentioned the US government spying on citizens
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Zealous on June 11, 2014, 05:15:18 pm
Wow, you guys were so creative for the writing pieces - writing as chess players or Grandmasters.

I just regurgitated all the information that was on the page and tried to make it sound beautiful.
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: lmnop on June 11, 2014, 05:17:43 pm
Tantrum: the loss she experienced was her own special view of her mother, the poem portrays the child's reaction with incomprehension and the last line evokes a sense of sad resignation (this could be objective detachment)

Baseball: disjunction between the setting and nature

Codes: GARY, BY, LENA, SAUL and JAKE


This is probably a silly question, but was the "Tantrum" poem about some kid's outburst at her mum's haircut or something else entirely like cancer?
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Valyria on June 11, 2014, 05:23:14 pm
I just regurgitated all the information that was on the page and tried to make it sound beautiful.

I can relate. I opened with "Shāh Māt" which was the Persian phrase they gave us which meant "the king is ambushed". I thought that was ingenious before I realised it led me nowhere...
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: PsychoT on June 11, 2014, 05:26:52 pm
For the first one I basically did one long sales wind for people to play Chess. Second one I think I did on the news of the world phone tapping scandal, but it was terrible and didn't mean anything essentially, wasn't happy with it.
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: deborahchew on June 11, 2014, 05:28:46 pm


This is probably a silly question, but was the "Tantrum" poem about some kid's outburst at her mum's haircut or something else entirely like cancer?

Not silly at all! Now that you mention it, I think it is cancer! Read it as a haircut the first time. Thanks for pointing that out.

I can relate. I opened with "Shāh Māt" which was the Persian phrase they gave us which meant "the king is ambushed". I thought that was ingenious before I realised it led me nowhere...

Hahahah A+ for effort? Maybe the flow in the intro wasn't great but you probably did well overall!
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: auds on June 11, 2014, 05:28:59 pm



I just regurgitated all the information that was on the page and tried to make it sound beautiful.

That was me as well.   :P
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Reus on June 11, 2014, 05:31:59 pm
My second writing task argument was purely based on
"What's better your bra size secret to be exposed or a potential 9/11-like incident to reoccur?" LOL
 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Crystall97 on June 11, 2014, 05:59:00 pm
It was fairly standard for me, I've mainly had problems with some of those text analysis questions.

Btw, what do you put for that question which asks you name an area which doesn't refer back to any early occupation during the 17th century or something? (It isn't Beaver Street is it?)         

I don't know, personally I said "battery park" thinking that batteries probably weren't invented in the 17th century...
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: balmemat on June 11, 2014, 07:36:13 pm
I found the GAT easier this year than last year, not sure whether that had anything to do with being in Yr 12 this year, or just I probably tried a bit more this year. I felt good coming out of it, though it always makes you laugh looking at the people next to you who just sat their colouring/drawing on the paper and multiple choice, without doing a writing task!
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Jono_CP on June 11, 2014, 07:45:14 pm
Frustrated. I studied for the English components but not necessarily the multiple choice, just did not have the time.

Multiple Choice............ Maybe I was half-brain dead, but I didn't understand most of it to be perfectly honest. Karma.
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Sense on June 11, 2014, 07:47:38 pm
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Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: AnonStu on June 11, 2014, 10:23:41 pm
I did the GAT fairly seriously. Here are my multiple choice answers if anyone's interested

1. B
2. D
3. A
4. C
5. A
6. C
7. D
8. B
9. A
10. C
11. A
12. A
13. D
14. D
15. C
16. A
17. D
18. D
19. B
20. C
21. D
22. B
23. A
24. B
25. C
26. A
27. D
28. A
29. A
30. A
31. B
32. B
33. C
34. C
35. A
36. A
37. C
38. A
39. D
40. D
41. D
42. B
43. C
44. A
45. B
46. B
47. C
48. C
49. B
50. B
51. A
52. B
53. B
54. D
55. B
56. C
57. A
58. C
59. D
60. C
61. D
62. A
63. A
64. D
65. C
66. B
67. B
68. D
69. C
70. C
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: deborahchew on June 11, 2014, 11:59:16 pm
I did the GAT fairly seriously. Here are my multiple choice answers if anyone's interested

I did mine seriously too! Here are the answers I had that were different from yours (*=probably wrong): There's quite a few. Oh well, I had fun!

7. B
8. D
11. C
16. B*
18. A*
20. C
33. A
36. C
40. D*
44. D
46. D
48. D*
49. C
50. D*
51. C
53. C*
55. C
58. D*
65. B*
66. C
67. D*
69. A
Title: Re: GAT 2014 Discussion + Tips + Answers
Post by: Jason12 on June 12, 2014, 12:56:55 am
for the persuasive i mentioned how batman uses Lucius's sonar concept to scan the entire city using everyone's cell phones and how lucius calls it 'unethical and wrong' then related that to what the government is doing.