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Title: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: plsbegentle on June 27, 2014, 05:10:51 pm
So Guys, last year I got into Suzanne Cory, but this year I really really want to get into mhs in year 10. The only thing I really need help on, is my persuasive essay. I get how the structure works but i clearly don't know how to start the introduction. For example, how should i like write my contention. i don't want to just write, therefore we should ban this or that, something catchy. And pls can someone provide like a full introduction of a random topic.
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Asteriskkk on June 27, 2014, 06:22:52 pm
Last year? So are you Year 10 then?
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: pi on June 28, 2014, 11:30:14 am
If he got in last year (ie. Year 8 ) I'd imagine this person would be in Year 9 now.

I'll try and type out some essays if I can find them at home.
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: SMOKIE on July 13, 2014, 07:29:07 pm
Use TEEL
Topic sentence
 what is your main point?
 Evidence
 what is your evidence? It reinforces your idea in your topic sentence.
 Explanation
 why is your point important?
 Link
 How does it relate to your actual topic?
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Hannibal on July 13, 2014, 07:34:55 pm
For the creative essay, is it best to somehow kill off the protagonist or end it with a cliff hanger? I know neither of them is better than a legitimate resolution, but that seems to be impossible to form with a climax preceding it in 15 minutes. 

Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Shinkaze on July 13, 2014, 07:45:29 pm
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For the creative essay, is it best to somehow kill off the protagonist or end it with a cliff hanger? I know neither of them is better than a legitimate resolution, but that seems to be impossible to form with a climax preceding it in 15 minutes. 

Thanks in advance :)

My answer is probably not that good but I usually start it off being with a memory that I had while I'm tired and then in the end I usually just end it with a half cliff hanger and fell asleep....Not too hard to finish this in 15 minutes I guess
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: SMOKIE on July 13, 2014, 07:49:32 pm
For the creative essay, is it best to somehow kill off the protagonist or end it with a cliff hanger? I know neither of them is better than a legitimate resolution, but that seems to be impossible to form with a climax preceding it in 15 minutes. 

Thanks in advance :)

I would always love an interesting cliff hanger BUT if it isn't strong and dramatic, enough to convey the audience to care what is going to happen next, then just stick with a normal resolution that finishes the story well. If this is for selective entry school, I would never kill off the protagonist, coz you never know who is marking ur work. They might not like how you ended the story.
Just keep it basic with beginning, middle and a fancy ending.
if you need anymore help pm as I got into mhs and very knowledgeable in this area of english
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: randyz on July 26, 2014, 06:37:04 pm
Hey guys did anyone get an interview. I got one today! :D
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Hannibal on July 26, 2014, 06:45:07 pm
Hey guys did anyone get an interview. I got one today! :D
Was it via eMail? Will probably have to wait until Monday for my mum to check her work eMail lol.
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: chingchongling on July 27, 2014, 11:15:31 am
I thought results were given on the third week of August? They can't have marked it that quickly?
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: pi on July 27, 2014, 11:18:57 am
I thought results were given on the third week of August? They can't have marked it that quickly?

That's usually for yr9 entry.
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: chingchongling on July 27, 2014, 11:25:43 am
That's usually for yr9 entry.

Oh, :o just kind of surprised we had the test on 19th of July and the results are already out o.O. Literally out in a week.
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: spectroscopy on July 27, 2014, 11:42:32 am
Suzanne cory reks mhs #controversy

anyway a good place to look for ideas would be for vce english oral presentations, and just look at peoples introductions there, its pretty much a similiar thing to the persuasive essays you need to write
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: plsbegentle on July 27, 2014, 04:56:57 pm
Yeh i got an interview now! Yah
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Hannibal on July 28, 2014, 04:24:08 pm
Received an interview as well, lets smash it out :)
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Denuka on July 28, 2014, 05:25:45 pm
:( nothing for me
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: plsbegentle on July 28, 2014, 07:17:23 pm
Anyone on Wednesday morning?
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: SMOKIE on July 29, 2014, 05:34:54 pm
Good Luck to anyone having there interview tomorrow!
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: plsbegentle on August 04, 2014, 07:15:54 pm
Anyone know when will you be notified if you got accepted or not in mhs?
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: drepwns on August 05, 2014, 05:26:03 pm
Good Luck to anyone having there interview tomorrow!
*their  ;)
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: naruto98733 on August 06, 2014, 09:29:57 am
Anyone know when will you be notified if you got accepted or not in mhs?
Was NOT accepted - letter received yesterday.
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: randyz on August 06, 2014, 05:45:41 pm
Hey guys,
I got into Melbourne High, I recieved the letter today.  ;D
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Hannibal on August 06, 2014, 07:13:45 pm
Yay, received an offer as well! 4 superiors so I did alright :D.

Nice work randyz haha.
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: winchesteraddict on August 06, 2014, 08:25:00 pm
Yay, received an offer as well! 4 superiors so I did alright :D.

Nice work randyz haha.

Good on you Hannibal :)
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: chingchongling on August 06, 2014, 08:27:49 pm
Congratz to you guys :)! Didn't get in only 2 superiors :\
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: pi on August 06, 2014, 08:33:53 pm
Hey guys,
I got into Melbourne High, I recieved the letter today.  ;D
Yay, received an offer as well! 4 superiors so I did alright :D.

Nice work randyz haha.

Hope you guys choose MHS :)
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: The Usual Student on August 06, 2014, 11:11:08 pm
Yay, received an offer as well! 4 superiors so I did alright :D.

Nice work randyz haha.

Wow, good job! I got five superiors and a above average for my test back when I did it but I didn't even get an interview :( ( damm co curricular )
Now it's JMSS or MHS ( if you do get in)
It really depends on what you want to be in life and what type of schooling you prefer. MHS is probably more rounded then JMSS but you seem like the kids who has a strong passion for science so JMSS could be a good route for you to go down. I really can't sell the idea of going to MHS to you since I don't go there but I can tell you the advantageous of JMSS

- Kids there absolutely adore science
- Science facilities
- Modern approach on education
- I can't be sure but it is most likely closer to you
- connections with Monash
- Scholastically, we may not be as good as MHS but we can get you where you want ! People are very serious when it comes to VCE at JMSS. The teachers are really clear and passionate, a lot of them are scientist themselves.
That is all of the top of my head so yeah. Either way way, choose what is best for your development!
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Hannibal on August 06, 2014, 11:20:31 pm
Wow, good job! I got five superiors and a above average for my test back when I did it but I didn't even get an interview :( ( damm co curricular )
Now it's JMSS or MHS ( if you do get in)
It really depends on what you want to be in life and what type of schooling you prefer. MHS is probably more rounded then JMSS but you seem like the kids who has a strong passion for science so JMSS could be a good route for you to go down. I really can't sell the idea of going to MHS to you since I don't go there but I can tell you the advantageous of JMSS

- Kids there absolutely adore science
- Science facilities
- Modern approach on education
- I can't be sure but it is most likely closer to you
- connections with Monash
- Scholastically, we may not be as good as MHS but we can get you where you want ! People are very serious when it comes to VCE at JMSS. The teachers are really clear and passionate, a lot of them are scientist themselves.
That is all of the top of my head so yeah. Either way way, choose what is best for your development!
Yep haha, decisions decisions :(. Although I love science, I'm not really interested in going into research or the medical field, I would prefer a commerce/maths based course and job. What I love about JMSS is how fresh and friendly it seems, compared to the slightly daunting and competitive  appearance of Melbourne High. Also it seems easier to fit in socially with JMSS rather than MHS, especially with starting school at the same time, alongside the less competitive environment.

Still not sure though... I'll see how the interview goes :)
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: pi on August 06, 2014, 11:31:29 pm
I've never seen any Year 10's have any problems fitting in at MHS :) I won't go through a list of advantages (just look at the yearly success in academia, sport, music, cadets, etc. and it becomes obvious) BUT we have a castle 8)
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Shenz0r on August 07, 2014, 06:34:22 pm
The cohorts are MHS are like a brotherhood. It's not as competitive as it seems once you've actually settled down - if anything the cohort is incredibly supportive and motivating.

(Pick MHS you seriously will NOT regret it)
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: plsbegentle on August 07, 2014, 07:07:36 pm
I was in gold coast for this week and I came back home with good news! 5 superiors 1 above and got into MHS. Thank you everyone who helped me get this far!!!!!
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: plsbegentle on August 07, 2014, 07:13:57 pm
Wow, good job! I got five superiors and a above average for my test back when I did it but I didn't even get an interview :( ( damm co curricular )
Now it's JMSS or MHS ( if you do get in)
It really depends on what you want to be in life and what type of schooling you prefer. MHS is probably more rounded then JMSS but you seem like the kids who has a strong passion for science so JMSS could be a good route for you to go down. I really can't sell the idea of going to MHS to you since I don't go there but I can tell you the advantageous of JMSS

- Kids there absolutely adore science
- Science facilities
- Modern approach on education
- I can't be sure but it is most likely closer to you
- connections with Monash
- Scholastically, we may not be as good as MHS but we can get you where you want ! People are very serious when it comes to VCE at JMSS. The teachers are really clear and passionate, a lot of them are scientist themselves.
That is all of the top of my head so yeah. Either way way, choose what is best for your development!

How did you NOT get an interview? The only co-curricular activity I did was hockey.
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: SMOKIE on August 07, 2014, 07:28:13 pm
The cohorts are MHS are like a brotherhood. It's not as competitive as it seems once you've actually settled down - if anything the cohort is incredibly supportive and motivating.

(Pick MHS you seriously will NOT regret it)

Reason why you shouldn't come MHS(jkjkjk)
 Toilets are crap, full of tissues on ceilings.
 The corridors are cramped and the year 12s are bossy and wont let you through.
 If you look out from the history room in the T building you see this guy imprinted on the art building, weird!
 They make you sit on primary school chairs.....
 If you don't play League of Legends, CSGO or Fiffa. The nerds will stalk you until you do.
 Ever get a bottom lock, enjoying waiting 5 minutes for your turn.
 
The good things about MHS:
 class parties and JAMESSSSSSSSSS Guthrie u legend

JMMS +1 MHS -1
 
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: The Usual Student on August 07, 2014, 07:29:51 pm
How did you NOT get an interview? The only co-curricular activity I did was hockey.

I didn't really have anything viable In my co curricular
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: SMOKIE on August 07, 2014, 07:36:41 pm
I was in gold coast for this week and I came back home with good news! 5 superiors 1 above and got into MHS. Thank you everyone who helped me get this far!!!!!

Well done plsbegentle, hope I see you next year! Imagine we both in the same class pref. 10N would be hilarious!
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: The Usual Student on August 07, 2014, 08:11:59 pm
Yep haha, decisions decisions :(. Although I love science, I'm not really interested in going into research or the medical field, I would prefer a commerce/maths based course and job. What I love about JMSS is how fresh and friendly it seems, compared to the slightly daunting and competitive  appearance of Melbourne High. Also it seems easier to fit in socially with JMSS rather than MHS, especially with starting school at the same time, alongside the less competitive environment.

Still not sure though... I'll see how the interview goes :)



Regardless of your choice, allow me to stress something. This is not aimed directly at you but to people in general. JMSS IS NOT ENTIRELY SCIENCE BASED! Jmss has so many other options other then science especially for the mathematicians. A lot of kids come to JMSS just to see what science is like and end up going down another road of work. Jmss does not force you into science, all it does is give you my science opportunities then other schools. I really get frustrated when people think all JMSS does is prepare people for science jobs ( Not saying you are but a lot of people do).
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: pi on August 07, 2014, 09:08:40 pm
Yep haha, decisions decisions :(. Although I love science, I'm not really interested in going into research or the medical field, I would prefer a commerce/maths based course and job. What I love about JMSS is how fresh and friendly it seems, compared to the slightly daunting and competitive  appearance of Melbourne High. Also it seems easier to fit in socially with JMSS rather than MHS, especially with starting school at the same time, alongside the less competitive environment.

Still not sure though... I'll see how the interview goes :)

To be honest, I think MHS would suit you really well. They have a very strong Commerce dep and many Commerce links with the Old Boys Association which you can't really get in any other non-elite private school (for boys). You sound like someone who wants to be well-rounded, and MHS really encourages that, there's a club for everything (academics, charity, anime, sports, chess, break-dancing, environment, debating, cadets, sexual orientation, board games, and the list goes on) and facilities on the school grounds (hockey field, basketballs courts, oval, cricket nets, swimming pool, whatever) to cater for all that extra enrichment.  I used to walk past JMSS every day and see about 100 people crammed onto their sole basketball court during lunchtime or recess, I really feel sorry for them, every time they went to this small patch of grass next to the road they had a teacher with them, seems awfully restrictive and lacking of facilities if you ask me :/

Also on a Commerce note, I know that from my year MANY students were offered cadet-ships and things into big firms like PwC, E&Y and KPMG (ie. Big Four firms). Just food for thought if you want to head down those roads :)

I agree, the school does seem daunting. It's got a very proud history of academic excellence that can seem a bit frightening, it's also got that elite private school grandeur-ness about it's main building (castle!!!) which can be a bit intimidating. However, given the location centrally in the city, the bromance of the cohort (not that there aren't events with Mac.Rob!), the abundance of on-ground facilities, the fact that there is a library that can accommodate the school's population, and the history of excellence; choosing MHS would be a no-brainer for me :) 

Reason why you shouldn't come MHS(jkjkjk)
 Toilets are crap, full of tissues on ceilings.
 The corridors are cramped and the year 12s are bossy and wont let you through.
 If you look out from the history room in the T building you see this guy imprinted on the art building, weird!
 They make you sit on primary school chairs.....
 If you don't play League of Legends, CSGO or Fiffa. The nerds will stalk you until you do.
 Ever get a bottom lock, enjoying waiting 5 minutes for your turn.
 
The good things about MHS:
 class parties and JAMESSSSSSSSSS Guthrie u legend

Boys will be boys :P

The "guy imprinted on the art building" is MHS alumni Lindsay Fox. He also used to park his helicopter on the oval. MHS is cool like that, we actually own an oval and we have some sweet alumni who have really made it places in the world.

Not sure about nerds stalking people, if you go outside to play a bit of cricket or soccer or whatever you avoid that? Never happened in my time at MHS. We had people play LoL and SC in the library, but they kept to themselves and that was fine by me.

Sucks to be you with a bottom locker! Evaded getting one for 4 years :P
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Shenz0r on August 07, 2014, 09:25:43 pm
Also, Year 12 formal at Grand Hyatt.

You know you want to.
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: SMOKIE on August 08, 2014, 06:03:38 pm


Boys will be boys :P

The "guy imprinted on the art building" is MHS alumni Lindsay Fox. He also used to park his helicopter on the oval. MHS is cool like that, we actually own an oval and we have some sweet alumni who have really made it places in the world.

Not sure about nerds stalking people, if you go outside to play a bit of cricket or soccer or whatever you avoid that? Never happened in my time at MHS. We had people play LoL and SC in the library, but they kept to themselves and that was fine by me.

Sucks to be you with a bottom locker! Evaded getting one for 4 years :P

" If you go outside to play a bit of cricket or soccer" The year 12s and 11s take up the whole field. ITS IMPOSSIBBLE.
Wait Lindsay Fox, Isn't he rich. I heard he studied at MHS and left for some reason..

Nah in class, all they talk about is Lol Lol Lol. And i would have no clue what it is.....
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: pi on August 08, 2014, 07:05:28 pm
" If you go outside to play a bit of cricket or soccer" The year 12s and 11s take up the whole field. ITS IMPOSSIBBLE.

lol, ask them to play against them? Back when I was at MHS we all loved a bit of inter-year soccer or inter-year cricket. We had one net for the Year 11/12s and one for the Year 9/10s, worked out pretty well. Also, you can play soccer on the oval or in the gym if you make a booking(?) >.> Lots of people also played a bit of soccer on the basketball courts too, they were usually free for that with the ones near the cricket nets having bball games. Plenty of room for everyone, especially if you ask for a match.

Wait Lindsay Fox, Isn't he rich. I heard he studied at MHS and left for some reason..

Yeah Google brah. He got expelled.

Nah in class, all they talk about is Lol Lol Lol. And i would have no clue what it is.....

So maybe ignore them or plug some music in? Hardly an issue.
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Hannibal on August 10, 2014, 12:17:49 am
Hey Pi, I have two quick questions :)

Does the school allow you to do a 1&2 in Year 10 and/or a 3&4 in Year 11?

What are your opinions on MHS vs a mid-tier private school? Are there any advantages to Melbourne High other than an academic focus with that?
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: pi on August 10, 2014, 01:09:06 am
Hey Pi, I have two quick questions :)

Does the school allow you to do a 1&2 in Year 10 and/or a 3&4 in Year 11?

What are your opinions on MHS vs a mid-tier private school? Are there any advantages to Melbourne High other than an academic focus with that?

Things have probably changed since I was there, but 3/4s for yr11 were bio, accounting, psych, bm, eco, hhd, and a few others. I think they now allow methods, not too sure though. Either way, I don't think it's advantageous to knock off methods in yr11 anyway, if you're doing spesh in the same year it's pretty much like doing 4 subjects in year 12 instead of 5.

What's a mid-tier private school? It certainly doesn't have the resources of mgs, scotch, xavs, skevs, etc etc but for a govt school it's resources are second to none. Having never been to a private school, I'm not sure who it stacks up to the "mid-tier" ones, but I have heard that our music program (+/- combined with Mac.Rob sometimes) is up there with some of the best schools, which is surprising given we don't dish out money for music scholarships.
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: SMOKIE on August 10, 2014, 10:05:07 am
Hey Pi, I have two quick questions :)

Does the school allow you to do a 1&2 in Year 10 and/or a 3&4 in Year 11?

What are your opinions on MHS vs a mid-tier private school? Are there any advantages to Melbourne High other than an academic focus with that?

We do have an yr9 evening night which basically tells us what to expect in year 10. Melbourne high's community is great, however ur stuck with a castle and...(not mentioning the toilets) cough cough. :P
Hannibal, you don't need to stress about which school you want to go. From your heart, ask this question " Is Melbourne High where i want to spend rest of my secondary life at" OR at another school. Is it JMMS or UNI High?
You're going to  achieve high standards, If your already devoting so much time on your studies and other what not so forth.
( JMMS REKts MHS)

Things have probably changed since I was there, but 3/4s for yr11 were bio, accounting, psych, bm, eco, hhd, and a few others. I think they now allow methods, not too sure though. Either way, I don't think it's advantageous to knock off methods in yr11 anyway, if you're doing spesh in the same year it's pretty much like doing 4 subjects in year 12 instead of 5.

What's a mid-tier private school? It certainly doesn't have the resources of mgs, scotch, xavs, skevs, etc etc but for a govt school it's resources are second to none. Having never been to a private school, I'm not sure who it stacks up to the "mid-tier" ones, but I have heard that our music program (+/- combined with Mac.Rob sometimes) is up there with some of the best schools, which is surprising given we don't dish out money for music scholarships.
Some students in my cohort are thinking of doing methods in yr10, however the work load is obv going to be be A LOT. But my brother did methods in yr10 and yr11 before doing spesh in yr12.
I reckon our music program is first class, no other schools can beat us.
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Shenz0r on August 10, 2014, 03:01:43 pm
If you go to MHS then here's what you would expect by the time you get to Year 12.


Damn it's been so long lol
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: pi on August 10, 2014, 03:12:11 pm
Damn it's been so long lol

Damn hahahaha (edit: Woody at the end hahahahahahahahaha), do you have the fb link to last year's one or the one from your year?

Found the one from my year haha

Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Shenz0r on August 10, 2014, 03:15:54 pm
It's not on youtube but it's on vimeo
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: Shenz0r on August 10, 2014, 03:22:18 pm
Damn hahahaha (edit: Woody at the end hahahahahahahahaha), do you have the fb link to last year's one or the one from your year?

Found last year's too: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151955921989822
Title: Re: Melbourne High Year 10
Post by: pi on August 10, 2014, 03:25:30 pm
Ah yes, he's the guy. This is another good one from the class of '13 :D https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151715946344822

edit: really love the message at the end of this one, so many nostalgia :')