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VCE Stuff => Victorian Technical Score Discussion => Topic started by: scandin9 on July 14, 2014, 09:28:23 pm

Title: Methods Study Score
Post by: scandin9 on July 14, 2014, 09:28:23 pm
How many marks can be lost in the examination if you want a 40 raw [47 scaled] in Math methods?If I am rank 1-5 in a private school
Title: Re: Methods Study Score
Post by: emilyhobbes on July 16, 2014, 07:48:56 pm
It can vary dramatically year to year, and the 40 raw to 47 scaled (which I assume you're getting from 2013 data) was because of really difficult exams. In previous years, a 40 normally scales closer to the 43-44 range, and unlike last year, methods doesn't usually scale over 50.

that being said, a 40 raw would probably be around a high A to low A+ range, and you can check out what that's correlated to in past years on vcaa grade distributions :)
Title: Re: Methods Study Score
Post by: juzza12 on July 18, 2014, 06:17:47 pm
It can vary dramatically year to year, and the 40 raw to 47 scaled (which I assume you're getting from 2013 data) was because of really difficult exams. In previous years, a 40 normally scales closer to the 43-44 range, and unlike last year, methods doesn't usually scale over 50.

that being said, a 40 raw would probably be around a high A to low A+ range, and you can check out what that's correlated to in past years on vcaa grade distributions :)
I would like to correct you Emily I believe scaling has nothing to do with the difficulty of exams, but rather how well the entire cohort of VCE Methods students in 2013 performed across other studies.
Title: Re: Methods Study Score
Post by: spectroscopy on July 18, 2014, 09:31:01 pm
I would like to correct you Emily I believe scaling has nothing to do with the difficulty of exams, but rather how well the entire cohort of VCE Methods students in 2013 performed across other studies.
both are correct, when the exam is hard, people usually do more poorly, as a result the scores of the vce methods cohort are much lower than other studies, thus it scales more
Title: Re: Methods Study Score
Post by: Robert123 on July 22, 2014, 08:41:27 pm
both are correct, when the exam is hard, people usually do more poorly, as a result the scores of the vce methods cohort are much lower than other studies, thus it scales more
This is off topic but I'm pretty sure it is more about ranking then score in exam (eg for an easy exam a c+ might be at 70% where for a harder exam a c+ would be a 60%. However, since the study score is a "ranking" in that subject, a person score would not be affected since everybody should perform the same relative to each other regardless of the difficulty of the exam).

IMO, I think the reason why method scale to 52 was to encourage more people to do it as there has been large drops in number of that subject.
Title: Re: Methods Study Score
Post by: anna.xo on July 31, 2014, 07:51:13 pm
This is off topic but I'm pretty sure it is more about ranking then score in exam (eg for an easy exam a c+ might be at 70% where for a harder exam a c+ would be a 60%. However, since the study score is a "ranking" in that subject, a person score would not be affected since everybody should perform the same relative to each other regardless of the difficulty of the exam).

IMO, I think the reason why method scale to 52 was to encourage more people to do it as there has been large drops in number of that subject.

Taking the course now, I can't even begin to imagine why -.-
Title: Re: Methods Study Score
Post by: keltingmeith on July 31, 2014, 08:43:49 pm
It's really a shame that people have that opinion, anna - but at the same time, I can't fault you or anyone else for having it.

Maths can be incredibly beautiful, fun and enjoyable - just as much as any other subject can be. Methods, however, takes mathematics, scrunches it into a tiny ball, and throws it in the garbage, handing back to you a tiny little turd that it calls "mathematics". The worst part is that it turns off so many potentially brilliant mathematicians, and gives everyone the complete wrong idea of what mathematics is all about or what mathematicians might do with their lives...

/off-topic banter
Title: Re: Methods Study Score
Post by: Bluegirl on August 06, 2014, 08:19:39 pm
Taking the course now, I can't even begin to imagine why -.-

I'm with you. Wish I never did methods haha.
Title: Re: Methods Study Score
Post by: Reus on August 06, 2014, 08:34:10 pm
I'm with you. Wish I never did methods haha.
Same! -.-