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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => Monash University => Topic started by: Michael Scofield on August 02, 2014, 06:13:32 pm
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What exactly is the difference between the two? What are the pros and cons of each? Also, would it be possible for me to transfer into the B.Comm from B.Bus even though I didn't do methods in year 12? Besides maintaining a credit average, are there any other requirements? Thanks a lot!
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What exactly is the difference between the two? What are the pros and cons of each? Also, would it be possible for me to transfer into the B.Comm from B.Bus even though I didn't do methods in year 12? Besides maintaining a credit average, are there any other requirements? Thanks a lot!
1. Prestige (if nothing else). Most of the units in BComm and BBus are identical and just vary by unit code/name.
2. Pros and cons is really what you make of it, I think it is hard to give a definite answer to that. BComm is at the Clayton campus, whereas BBus is at the Caulfield campus - consider travel time to and from uni. Employment wise, you're up against hundreds of students if you do BComm or BBus either way. Personally, I don't think it matters which course you do - it's what you make of it that counts.
3. Yes, it would be possible as far as I am aware. Have a read of this: http://www.buseco.monash.edu.au/esg/agu/policies/internal-course-transfers.html. You need to maintain a distinction (70+) average, not credit average.
Bachelor of Commerce or Bachelor of Economics - 70%
Single degree:
- Clayton
- Monash University Malaysia
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If you didn't do methods in year 12, I'm pretty sure as well as maintaining a distinction average, you'll also need to have done a bridging course - in this case, MTH1010.
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If you didn't do methods in year 12, I'm pretty sure as well as maintaining a distinction average, you'll also need to have done a bridging course - in this case, MTH1010.
I was hoping this wasn't the case! Why is this maths necessary? Also, do I just need to pass this? (50%)
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1. You just need an overall high average, not individual. However, if you only just pass, you're not likely to do well.
2. I'm going to be blunt - methods is a pre-req for a reason. If you're this against doing maths, reevaluate your career goals.
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1. You just need an overall high average, not individual. However, if you only just pass, you're not likely to do well.
2. I'm going to be blunt - methods is a pre-req for a reason. If you're this against doing maths, reevaluate your career goals.
It's not that I'm against doing methods, I'm just worried I might not do well considering I'm not the best at maths and those doing it at my school are struggling. Just wondering, is the maths in commerce similar to methods?
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It's not that I'm against doing methods, I'm just worried I might not do well considering I'm not the best at maths and those doing it at my school are struggling. Just wondering, is the maths in commerce similar to methods?
The maths in commerce largely depends on what you major in. Regardless of major, there's going to be some maths though, as you'll have to do first year statistics (harder than further, but easier than methods).
If you major in Accounting = very little maths, though a lot of numbers.
Marketing = only some stats
Management = no maths
Business Law = no maths
HRM = no maths
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Finance = some maths, but it depends on your units. Probably not a major to do if you really don't like maths, as some finance units are fairly quantitative, e.g. derivatives, and most will involve calculations (although often fairly easy).
Economics = a fair degree of unavoidable maths, including calculus
Econometrics = maths
Actuarial = difficult maths
which is why a 25 in Methods is required for Commerce. So, although you could theoretically get through a commerce degree without much maths by majoring in certain areas, a lot of the majors do require it. If you're really only interested in the non-quantitative side, then maybe consider just going with a Business degree. Business degrees are usually stronger on the first list of majors I mentioned and don't focus so much on the latter (though the degree structure is quite similar...one of the few differences is that Commerce means being required to choose a couple of units from a list of 4 other subjects, a couple of which involve some maths).
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It's not that I'm against doing methods, I'm just worried I might not do well considering I'm not the best at maths and those doing it at my school are struggling. Just wondering, is the maths in commerce similar to methods?
Depends on what you want to major in. If you want to major in a quantitative discipline, you definitely want to go to Clayton and you definitely want to do Methods, for a lot of reasons (not least of which is that they're mostly taught only at Clayton). Basically, what Rohmer posted.
Otherwise, you may as well go to Caulfield, unless Clayton is closer.
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Come to Clayton. Everyone loves Clayton campus. And if you either get to Business / Commerce, I don't advise you to do a maths heavy major (like actuarial or econometrics) unless you actually like maths.