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National Education => General National Education Discussion => Topic started by: cesaro on August 17, 2014, 06:14:39 pm

Title: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: cesaro on August 17, 2014, 06:14:39 pm
I was just wondering if anyone knows if there was a way to try and calculate what ATAR I could be headed towards next year by using my unit 1/2 SAC marks/mid year exam results/end of year exam results/overall percentage results/etc???
Title: Re: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: BLACKCATT on August 17, 2014, 06:18:05 pm
Don't even try predicting your atar based off 1/2 subjects.
Title: Re: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: cesaro on August 18, 2014, 05:22:51 pm
Ok, thanks. I was just wondering if there was some kind of way to do it, because apparently at the end of yr 11 some schools give their students a predicted atar
Title: Re: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: Special At Specialist on August 18, 2014, 05:44:26 pm
Unit 1/2 is all internal assessments, whereas unit 3/4 is all external assessments (the internal SAC's you do get scaled externally), which makes it practically impossible to predict your ATAR based off your unit 1/2 assessments.

The best you could do would be to find a year 12 student at your school who is getting / used to get exactly the same marks you got in the same subjects, then see what their ATAR is. Though I can't guarantee that such a person exists. And even then, this assumes that your scores and their scores are consistent from year 11 to year 12, which is a very big assumption.

apparently at the end of yr 11 some schools give their students a predicted atar

I've never known any school to do this... I know that some teachers will give you a predicted study score for a particular subject towards the end of unit 4 by looking at your SAC scores and your trial exam marks, but that's about as good as it gets.
Title: Re: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: lzxnl on August 18, 2014, 07:20:30 pm
Take the average of all of your SAC scores. Then multiply by 0. Then add 50. There, you have a possible ATAR score, with a 100% uncertainty in it.



One of my friends got a C in sem 1 GMA. He later went on to get a 99.90 ATAR and a 41 in spesh. Year 11 doesn't make your ATAR. Year 12 does.
Title: Re: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: JackSonSmith on August 18, 2014, 09:49:36 pm
Some 1/2 are mostly unrelated to 3/4. (I'm looking at you Psychology)
Title: Re: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: cesaro on August 19, 2014, 08:40:52 pm
I've never known any school to do this... I know that some teachers will give you a predicted study score for a particular subject towards the end of unit 4 by looking at your SAC scores and your trial exam marks, but that's about as good as it gets.
Yeah, just wondering because my school does interviews at the end of yr 11 and apparently they predict your atar, but I don't know if its like "you could probably score around 70 or 80" or if they actually say "we predict your atar to be 88.35".
Title: Re: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: brenden on August 19, 2014, 08:45:57 pm
Yeah, just wondering because my school does interviews at the end of yr 11 and apparently they predict your atar, but I don't know if its like "you could probably score around 70 or 80" or if they actually say "we predict your atar to be 88.35".
Tell your school they suck from Brenden.
Title: Re: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: cesaro on August 23, 2014, 04:10:54 pm
Tell your school they suck from Brenden.
Nah, my school probably already knows they suck (well they should and don't even get me started on my school). All I'm gonna say is that it's a pretty generic, below average, public school...
Title: Re: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: LiquidPaperz on August 23, 2014, 05:04:00 pm
is it usually most schools that predict atars? Also is it a good idea to ask your unit 3/4 teachers what they predict your study score to be? im not sure how to ask? Hi Mr/Mrs ....., what do you think my study score for ..... will be? im finding that a bit too direct and not sure whether he/she would answer!
Title: Re: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: MJRomeo81 on August 23, 2014, 06:00:22 pm
No way to predict it. Year 11 results don't really indicate anything.
Title: Re: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: LiquidPaperz on August 23, 2014, 06:22:59 pm
no i mean, im doing 2 year 12 subjects, can i approach those teachers and ask what my study score will be around?
Title: Re: Way to predict your ATAR by using yr 11 results?
Post by: MJRomeo81 on August 23, 2014, 06:49:08 pm
no i mean, im doing 2 year 12 subjects, can i approach those teachers and ask what my study score will be around?

Ohh, yes definitely! As far as I know, teachers submit estimated study scores to VCAA.