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Archived Discussion => 2009 => Mid-year exams => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Accounting => Topic started by: monokekie on August 06, 2009, 04:58:30 pm

Title: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: monokekie on August 06, 2009, 04:58:30 pm
  :)what've you got?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: TonyHem on August 09, 2009, 10:51:57 am
does anyone know how we can actualy get one of these
my school has left me completely in the dark : (
Your school doesn't know. You need to fill out a request for a SoM and send it to VCAA ( it costs money though).
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: sdhains on August 09, 2009, 10:52:19 am
83/90. I'm slightly disappointed i was aiming a little higher. What kind of study score do you think its worth?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: andrew4443 on August 09, 2009, 02:24:36 pm
does anyone know how we can actualy get one of these
my school has left me completely in the dark : (

Print it from here: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/schooladmin/forms/vce/statemarksinspectscripts.pdf
and send it off to the address down the bottom, should only take 3-4 days for you to get it back.

I got the same as you sam5, where did you lose your marks?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: jywalker on August 09, 2009, 10:09:39 pm
since the cutoff is 79/90, assuming a similar one in the end of year and A+ sac average

I'd expect a 43-45 study score if you got 83/90 on the next exam aswell
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: sdhains on August 10, 2009, 12:30:35 am
since the cutoff is 79/90, assuming a similar one in the end of year and A+ sac average

I'd expect a 43-45 study score if you got 83/90 on the next exam aswell

ahh right. thanks mate.

andrew, i lost 1 mark for a calculator error on the bank column question 1.1.2 (FML), 1 mark on subsidiary ledger working, a (perhaps) dubious 1.5 marks on residual value theory question (i'm really can't see how i lost marks on this one),  1 mark for not having stock gain overstated, somehow .5 of a mark on commencing entry question, 1 mark on cashflow statement, 1 mark on GJ entries.
I don't understand how i lost marks on residual value theory question and commencing entry question. any ideas?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: phanphy on August 11, 2009, 06:06:11 pm
I wonder what kinda score you'd need for a fifty xD
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: rnolan304 on August 12, 2009, 01:52:52 pm
I received my statement of marks the other day. Came back with a 173/180..which translates to 86.5/90... I thought accounting didn't have such a system as half marks? Does anyone have a clue how I recieved half marks for a question. (Question 1.8)?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: darlok on August 12, 2009, 02:03:47 pm
One marker gave it m/n, the other gave it (m-1)/n
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: lacoste on August 12, 2009, 02:09:18 pm
I think that the mid-year papers were marked twice by two assessors. and then they just average between the two given that there isnt a large discrepency. :)
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: Noblesse on August 12, 2009, 02:31:49 pm
Quote
The examination marking process is rigorous, carefully and expertly conducted, and designed to be fair to all students. For most studies, your examination papers are marked twice, by two different markers. Each marking is done separately and each marker does not know the marks given by the other marker. If there is insufficient agreement between their marks, the paper is assessed by a third marker.

For Mathematics, Accounting, Biology, Chemistry and Physics, examination papers are marked by a single marker. This is because in these examinations experience shows there is little or no difference in the marks given by pairs of markers marking the same paper.

In these examinations, the GAT is used to identify which students will have their papers marked a second time. A student’s GAT score is used to calculate their predicted examination score. If a student’s examination score is significantly different from this predicted score, their paper will be marked again.

The GAT is also used as part of a final check on examination scores. If a student’s final examination score is significantly different from the score predicted by the GAT, school indicative grades, other examination scores or School-assessed Tasks for the study their examination will be assessed again by the Chief Assessor’s panel. See the Anomalous Examination Grades page for more information.

A student’s score may go up or stay the same, but it will not go down as a result of this final check.
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/exams/gat/relates.html
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: lacoste on August 12, 2009, 04:09:32 pm
For Chem this year, two people mark it.

Dont know about accounting then
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: nbalakers24 on August 15, 2009, 03:53:04 pm
do examiners give half marks?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: monokekie on August 15, 2009, 04:03:51 pm
hmmmm... i Think they get something like base score and max score, according to the statement of marks, the chem exam is out of 73 marks in total, so the total "base score" is 73 and total "max score" is 146, and the final mark is out of 146. so generally speaking they do give half marks, if you are referring to the marks rewarded on the actual exam
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: geeza23 on September 01, 2009, 09:43:40 pm
141 pretty disappointing like 3 or 4 off an A lol so what if i get another B+ for end of year?what's do u guys think would be a realistic study score?and what if i got an A?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: sdhains on September 02, 2009, 12:41:06 am
141 pretty disappointing like 3 or 4 off an A lol so what if i get another B+ for end of year?what's do u guys think would be a realistic study score?and what if i got an A?

i suppose it depends on your SAC marks, but i would estimate around 35-6
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: H-kay on September 05, 2009, 02:53:34 pm
does anyone knw wat the expected range for an A+ is?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: phanphy on September 05, 2009, 05:48:22 pm
79/90 and higher for unit 3 exam
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: darkphoenix on September 06, 2009, 09:51:07 pm
yeah its 79, still cant believe i couldnt make that.
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: monokekie on September 06, 2009, 09:57:13 pm
yeah its 79, still cant believe i couldnt make that.
don't lose heart, blitz the end of year
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: darkphoenix on September 06, 2009, 10:03:37 pm
yeah its 79, still cant believe i couldnt make that.
don't lose heart, blitz the end of year

Yeah thats what im planning to do, these holidays im gonna study accounting as much as i can.

I wont be satisified with anything other than an A+ for it.
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: monokekie on September 06, 2009, 10:07:17 pm
yeah its 79, still cant believe i couldnt make that.
don't lose heart, blitz the end of year

Yeah thats what im planning to do, these holidays im gonna study accounting as much as i can.

I wont be satisified with anything other than an A+ for it.

that's the attitude :)
I am going to do the same
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: darkphoenix on September 06, 2009, 10:21:17 pm
yeah its 79, still cant believe i couldnt make that.
don't lose heart, blitz the end of year

Yeah thats what im planning to do, these holidays im gonna study accounting as much as i can.

I wont be satisified with anything other than an A+ for it.

that's the attitude :)
I am going to do the same

Nice, did you get A too?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: monokekie on September 06, 2009, 10:26:08 pm
yeah its 79, still cant believe i couldnt make that.
don't lose heart, blitz the end of year

Yeah thats what im planning to do, these holidays im gonna study accounting as much as i can.

I wont be satisified with anything other than an A+ for it.

that's the attitude :)
I am going to do the same

Nice, did you get A too?
nah, i didn't get an A.
I just think i cud have done better lol
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: darkphoenix on September 06, 2009, 10:38:13 pm
Ah i see, i reckon everyone has that mindset, unless they got like the highest A+ in the state
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on September 06, 2009, 10:51:53 pm
just out of curiosity, do you reckon heaps of people would have got above 86/90? im not sure how competitive acc is...
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: monokekie on September 07, 2009, 04:01:36 pm
17 people in our cohort's got A+, out of around 80, and my school's just an average school. i think acc is quite competitive.
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on September 07, 2009, 04:38:29 pm
ahhh so my mark wouldn't be considered very high then if heaps were getting in the 86+ range...
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: monokekie on September 07, 2009, 07:14:41 pm
ahhh so my mark wouldn't be considered very high then if heaps were getting in the 86+ range...
last year highest is 88 according to rhjc, so i suspect this year's highest would probz be full mark considering the fact that this year's easier

but 86 is good enough to be considered as very high though the competition is more vigorous this year :p
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: m@tty on September 07, 2009, 07:20:14 pm
just out of curiosity, do you reckon heaps of people would have got above 86/90? im not sure how competitive acc is...
I seriously doubt that since last year I think the highest was 88

How do you know highest score? Was it you??
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: darkphoenix on September 07, 2009, 09:31:03 pm
No no one got full marks this year, if i remember correctly the highest in the state was around 86.5 or 86?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: rhjc.1991 on September 07, 2009, 09:31:57 pm
just out of curiosity, do you reckon heaps of people would have got above 86/90? im not sure how competitive acc is...
I seriously doubt that since last year I think the highest was 88

How do you know highest score? Was it you??
word of mouth. I could be wrong so please don't quote me on this matter. One of my friends from other schools was talking to the head examiner who told him that the highest he saw was 86 or 88 and I know a guy who got 88/90.
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: rhjc.1991 on September 07, 2009, 09:40:46 pm
ahhh so my mark wouldn't be considered very high then if heaps were getting in the 86+ range...
last year highest is 88 according to rhjc, so i suspect this year's highest would probz be full mark considering the fact that this year's easier

but 86 is good enough to be considered as very high though the competition is more vigorous this year :p
It doesn't matter, I know of a guy who got 2 marks above A+ last yr (78/90) and still achieved 47 raw. I doubt he got full marks in Unit 4 Exam.

On the other hand, in 2007, out of six 90/90 at MHS, only 2 or 3 achieved 49-50 and the rest weren't that great. Ironically, the people who got Premier's Awards didn't get full marks in Unit 3!
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: ryley on September 07, 2009, 09:49:47 pm
@game_freak: 86 or 86.5/90 cannot be the highest for this years unit 3 accounting exam, as I know of at least two people in my methods class getting 87/90
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: darkphoenix on September 07, 2009, 10:08:11 pm
Hm yeah i think it must have been 88 then.
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: NE2000 on September 08, 2009, 03:33:17 pm
just out of curiosity, do you reckon heaps of people would have got above 86/90? im not sure how competitive acc is...
I seriously doubt that since last year I think the highest was 88

How do you know highest score? Was it you??
word of mouth. I could be wrong so please don't quote me on this matter. One of my friends from other schools was talking to the head examiner who told him that the highest he saw was 86 or 88 and I know a guy who got 88/90.

Did he end up getting a premiers 50? Just curious, because as you noted, some people score insanely high on midyears and don't work as much for endyears whereas some people get low on midyears relatively and work hard for endyears and succeed (so for all you current accounting people: a good midyear mark doesn't mean you can afford to relax at all). Although to get highest in the state, this guy was probably some hardcore freak at accounting. Was he a year 11?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: rhjc.1991 on September 08, 2009, 07:06:21 pm
just out of curiosity, do you reckon heaps of people would have got above 86/90? im not sure how competitive acc is...
I seriously doubt that since last year I think the highest was 88

How do you know highest score? Was it you??
word of mouth. I could be wrong so please don't quote me on this matter. One of my friends from other schools was talking to the head examiner who told him that the highest he saw was 86 or 88 and I know a guy who got 88/90.

Did he end up getting a premiers 50? Just curious, because as you noted, some people score insanely high on midyears and don't work as much for endyears whereas some people get low on midyears relatively and work hard for endyears and succeed (so for all you current accounting people: a good midyear mark doesn't mean you can afford to relax at all). Although to get highest in the state, this guy was probably some hardcore freak at accounting. Was he a year 11?
yeah. he didn't get premier's. apparently he made heaps of errors in unit 4 exam due to lack of pressure.
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on September 08, 2009, 08:18:09 pm
how did you go on midyrs rhjc.1991?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: NE2000 on September 10, 2009, 07:44:40 pm
just out of curiosity, do you reckon heaps of people would have got above 86/90? im not sure how competitive acc is...
I seriously doubt that since last year I think the highest was 88

How do you know highest score? Was it you??
word of mouth. I could be wrong so please don't quote me on this matter. One of my friends from other schools was talking to the head examiner who told him that the highest he saw was 86 or 88 and I know a guy who got 88/90.

Did he end up getting a premiers 50? Just curious, because as you noted, some people score insanely high on midyears and don't work as much for endyears whereas some people get low on midyears relatively and work hard for endyears and succeed (so for all you current accounting people: a good midyear mark doesn't mean you can afford to relax at all). Although to get highest in the state, this guy was probably some hardcore freak at accounting. Was he a year 11?
yeah. he didn't get premier's. apparently he made heaps of errors in unit 4 exam due to lack of pressure.

lol, must've been quite a gun to get a 50 without feeling much pressure.
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: Noblesse on September 10, 2009, 07:48:52 pm
Heh, I didn't get my mid-semester statement of marks, as I didn't want to know how low my A+ was  ;)

17 people in our cohort's got A+, out of around 80, and my school's just an average school. i think acc is quite competitive.

Holy crap, that is a lot of people doing accounting. My class had four :) (had to join with another school for cross marking)
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on September 10, 2009, 08:11:00 pm
Wow, Jamison...you got a premier's award? Awesome!!

Any tips for unit 4 exam?
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: NE2000 on September 10, 2009, 08:12:42 pm
Heh, I didn't get my mid-semester statement of marks, as I didn't want to know how low my A+ was  ;)

Seeing as you got a premiers, you now know how 'low' that exam mark was ;)
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: Noblesse on September 10, 2009, 08:25:02 pm
Key Tips for Accounting:

1. Do lots of practice exams.
2. Don't suck.
3. ? ? ? ? ? ?
4. PROFIT!

:P

Otherwise, see here http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,10516.0.html
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: phanphy on September 14, 2009, 03:33:21 pm
I've heard the highest was 88.
Title: Re: Accounting Statement of Marks
Post by: lacoste on September 14, 2009, 05:53:27 pm
do you guys find out from chief assesors or something?