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Archived Discussion => Health & Physical Education => 2014 => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Physical Education => Topic started by: Smiley_ on November 06, 2014, 01:58:37 pm
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Hope it went well for everyone!
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I hope it all went well guys!
(I'll be a bit quiet for the next few hours... will be smashing out some solutions for you guys. :) )
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How'd everyone go? :)
I found it alright, a few questions stumped me a bit but overall not too bad.
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How'd everyone go? :)
I found it alright, a few questions stumped me a bit but overall not too bad.
I think a few questions were a bit weird, don't worry too much, everyone would have faced the same challenges :)
Well done on finishing everyone, and thanks heaps to Smiley_ for posting the exam :)
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I think a few questions were a bit weird, don't worry too much, everyone would have faced the same challenges :)
Well done on finishing everyone, and thanks heaps to Smiley_ for posting the exam :)
That's very true! Thanks for everything this year Lex with the VCE PE Hub website and everything else! Definitely was a massive help!
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That's very true! Thanks for everything this year Lex with the VCE PE Hub website and everything else! Definitely was a massive help!
Thanks heaps, I really appreciate that :)
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How'd everyone go? :)
I found it alright, a few questions stumped me a bit but overall not too bad.
The question about fatigue based on the cycle ergometer and 20m shuttle run test got me...not sure if I would have got any marks or not hahah :)
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hey guys quick q
at the bottom of connect's answers, it said that they assume the A+ cut off will be around 90 'like last year' yet the VCAA grade distribution thingo says A+ was 75%
which is correct? or have I misinterpreted the vcaa thing
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hey guys quick q
at the bottom of connect's answers, it said that they assume the A+ cut off will be around 90 'like last year' yet the VCAA grade distribution thingo says A+ was 75%
which is correct? or have I misinterpreted the vcaa thing
We mean 90/120 which is 75% :)
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We mean 90/120 which is 75% :)
oh my mistake :3
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The question about fatigue based on the cycle ergometer and 20m shuttle run test got me...not sure if I would have got any marks or not hahah :)
Yeah that question got me as well!
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Hey Lex just with the answers provided by you guys, were they the only correct answers?
I ask because for the question on the HGH, did you have to refer to health of athletes (WADA), i referred to enhancement of performance and the unfair advantage.
Thanks again!
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Hey Lex just with the answers provided by you guys, were they the only correct answers?
I ask because for the question on the HGH, did you have to refer to health of athletes (WADA), i referred to enhancement of performance and the unfair advantage.
Thanks again!
Yep, that's fine. I forgot to add an extra comment about other acceptable answers - sorry!
The question asked for reference to one of WADA's rationale. So you had to pick from: health, safety, fairness, role modelling for children and the maintenance of the spirit of sport.
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What would 113-116 get as a study score??
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Yep, that's fine. I forgot to add an extra comment about other acceptable answers - sorry!
The question asked for reference to one of WADA's rationale. So you had to pick from: health, safety, fairness, role modelling for children and the maintenance of the spirit of sport.
Alright cool! Thank you :)
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For multiple choice number 10, could you argue that it could be contrast therapy to increase the removal of lactate?
Thanks
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Just curious...
What mark would you need for a 45+?
I always hesitate to answer these sorts of questions - it's always a bit of a guessing game! However, I'd say just over 100 would give you a very good shot at 45+.
A 49-50.
I agree with this one - losing so few marks would put you right up there.
For multiple choice number 10, could you argue that it could be contrast therapy to increase the removal of lactate?
Thanks
My train of thought for this Q was "what are the immediate actions I need to take". We'd likely use an active recovery to assist lactate/hydrogen ion removal, coupled with a sports drink to replenish fuels and fluids. I took the idea that contrast therapy would probably be used a little bit further away than "within 30 minutes after a match".
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For multiple choice number 10, could you argue that it could be contrast therapy to increase the removal of lactate?
Thanks
For this question I think we had to also take into consideration that it's a contact sport, and the heat in contrast water therapy so soon after the match would aggravate any soft tissue injuries. Just my 2 cents.
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With the Isotonic Hypertonic Hypotonic question and explanation, If for example I chose Hypotonic for rehydration to stp the negative effects of dehydration (instead of the suggested answer on connect isotonic) and my explanation was still good, would I be able to pick up two consequential marks? Or would I lose all 3 (if it is in fact isotonic)
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i mentioned hypertonic due to the high concentration of carbohydrates to allow for bursts of energy, i think many people are going to have differing answers but depends on your justification i guess
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i mentioned hypertonic due to the high concentration of carbohydrates to allow for bursts of energy, i think many people are going to have differing answers but depends on your justification i guess
My issue is that the question didn't identify whether the sports drinks were going to be consumed pre or during event. Very unlikely post based on the stem but, if it were pre, then Hypertonic would be appropriate, if it were during, then both Iso and Hypo would be appropriate, I just don't see how they can say that one is more appropriate than the other, like, Hypo and Iso both rehydrate the athlete but during a 90 minute event it's not like they would need to top up on glycogen until after the game. Hyper during an event can cause gastric upset so it's very strange..
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My issue is that the question didn't identify whether the sports drinks were going to be consumed pre or during event. Very unlikely post based on the stem but, if it were pre, then Hypertonic would be appropriate, if it were during, then both Iso and Hypo would be appropriate, I just don't see how they can say that one is more appropriate than the other, like, Hypo and Iso both rehydrate the athlete but during a 90 minute event it's not like they would need to top up on glycogen until after the game. Hyper during an event can cause gastric upset so it's very strange..
I can see your argument for hypotonic drinks. However, my thought process about sports drinks usually is along the lines of: "always isotonic unless there are extenuating circumstances". For example, if we were told that it was a hot day - hypotonic all the way. Hence, I selected isotonic as it would provide thee best balance of both fuel and fluid replenishment.
Also note that while we aren't crossing over to lipolysis dominance, we want to decrease the contribution from aerobic lipolysis as much as possible (aerobic lipolysis resynthesises ATP at a lower rate, hence lower intensity). So even though these team sports are usually under 90-120 minutes per match, we'd still want to top-up glycogen stores.
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I can see your argument for hypotonic drinks. However, my thought process about sports drinks usually is along the lines of: "always isotonic unless there are extenuating circumstances". For example, if we were told that it was a hot day - hypotonic all the way. Hence, I selected isotonic as it would provide thee best balance of both fuel and fluid replenishment.
Also note that while we aren't crossing over to lipolysis dominance, we want to decrease the contribution from aerobic lipolysis as much as possible (aerobic lipolysis resynthesises ATP at a lower rate, hence lower intensity). So even though these team sports are usually under 90-120 minutes per match, we'd still want to top-up glycogen stores.
So then this brings me back to my original question (I agree with your logic, Isotonic was probably a better answer) If I were to argue that dehydration would be the main cause of fatigue during such events, and then that Hypotonic would be the most suited/important for rehydration, would I still be able to get 2 marks for the second part of the question, or would I be likely to lose all 3?
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So then this brings me back to my original question (I agree with your logic, Isotonic was probably a better answer) If I were to argue that dehydration would be the main cause of fatigue during such events, and then that Hypotonic would be the most suited/important for rehydration, would I still be able to get 2 marks for the second part of the question, or would I be likely to lose all 3?
Likely to receive 1 mark for identifying dehydration as a factor.