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Archived Discussion => Mathematics/Science/Technology => 2014 => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Mathematical Methods CAS => Topic started by: BLACKCATT on November 06, 2014, 07:05:23 pm
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Just curious as to what everyone thinks the A+ cutoff will be for methods.
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Why is the majority vote 66-68? This year's exam was very straightforward except a few multiple choice. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 69-70.
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I feel like the multiple choice is what is going to divide most of the state...
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Why is the majority vote 66-68? This year's exam was very straightforward except a few multiple choice. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 69-70.
MC was quite hard, many non-routine questions in ER and lots of room for silly substitution errors. Compare this to 2013, which has one "tangent of death" question, reasonable MC and the rest was pretty normal and its pretty clear that they should be somewhat on par give or take a few marks (probably leaning more to give). 2013 was 61.5 A+ cutoff.
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MC was quite hard, many non-routine questions in ER and lots of room for silly substitution errors. Compare this to 2013, which has one "tangent of death" question, reasonable MC and the rest was pretty normal and its pretty clear that they should be somewhat on par give or take a few marks (probably leaning more to give). 2013 was 61.5 A+ cutoff.
I think it's a consensual opinion that MC was relatively difficult but there weren't many non-routine questions in ER. Q1-4 were all borderline routine and Q5 was slightly more challenging but was considerably easier than the last question of the '13 paper. Although the 'tangent of death' incited the most controversy, the state performed poorly on Q1f and several parts from Q3 (<10% and <20% from memory) in contrast to today's last page which was 6 marks? Don't really see how one can compare today's paper with last year's. A+ cut will at least be 5-8 marks higher.
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I think it's a consensual opinion that MC was relatively difficult but there weren't many non-routine questions in ER. Q1-4 were all borderline routine and Q5 was slightly more challenging but was considerably easier than the last question of the '13 paper. Although the 'tangent of death' incited the most controversy, the state performed poorly on Q1f and several parts from Q3 (<10% and <20% from memory) in contrast to today's last page which was 6 marks? Don't really see how one can compare today's paper with last year's. A+ cut will at least be 5-8 marks higher.
Yeah idk actually, people did badly on the tangent q but it was also relatively straight forward. Maybe we're being too hard on ourselves, heres hoping for an A+ cutoff in the sixties.
MC wasnt hard, maybe compared to SA but yeah.
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MC was quite hard, many non-routine questions in ER and lots of room for silly substitution errors. Compare this to 2013, which has one "tangent of death" question, reasonable MC and the rest was pretty normal and its pretty clear that they should be somewhat on par give or take a few marks (probably leaning more to give). 2013 was 61.5 A+ cutoff.
You make a good point, I'm also probably overestimating how well the state did that exam. A+ cutoff maybe 66-67?
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IMO last year's exam cut-off was so low because the last 8-10 marks were very inaccessible to most of the state, including the upper end of the spectrum.
Although this exam was overall quite difficult... methods is a difficult subject, and the majority of this exam was accessible to everyone. Let alone the strong students who could've easily made it close to the 80s.
So I don't think this exam is comparable to last years, which was a freak accident, but that being said, being consistently challenging-ish it probz won't be above 70. Somewhere close to 70 I'd imagine.
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Considering that 2012 wasn't too difficult compared to 2013, and the cutoff was still the same for exam 2 on both years. I think it's going to be a bit higher this year but I don't think it will be any higher than 66 to be honest.
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Looking at the grade distributions for the past couple of years, the highest minimum for A+ was 66 (for 2010). When I did that exam, it felt fair bit easier then this years (the only mark I actually lost for it was the first MC queation lol).
I think 64 would be close to the A+ cut off but it all depends on how everyone went
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IMO last year's exam cut-off was so low because the last 8-10 marks were very inaccessible to most of the state, including the upper end of the spectrum.
Although this exam was overall quite difficult... methods is a difficult subject, and the majority of this exam was accessible to everyone. Let alone the strong students who could've easily made it close to the 80s.
So I don't think this exam is comparable to last years, which was a freak accident, but that being said, being consistently challenging-ish it probz won't be above 70. Somewhere close to 70 I'd imagine.
I disagree. The 2012 (exam 2) had the exact same cutoff and yet it didn't have any niche questions that was the decider of the paper. The reason why the cutoff was the same was because the difficulty of it was more even distributed throughout it, rather than skewed towards the very last question as was the case in 2013. Its going to be a similar story this year, especially with there being 5 questions.
I think people on this forum are greatly overestimating the cutoff, perhaps because the vast majority of atarnotes members are likely going to be within the A+ cutoff and hence found the exam easier from their perspective as opposed to the average raw 30 student.
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I think people on this forum are greatly overestimating the cutoff, perhaps because the vast majority of atarnotes members are likely going to be within the A+ cutoff and hence found the exam easier from their perspective as opposed to the average raw 30 student.
Yeah. Honestly, I found that exam pretty difficult. Just luck that I only lost 1 mark on MC! But almost everyone I spoke to afterwards said they couldn't answer half the questions on the exam.