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Title: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: InNeedForHelp on November 09, 2014, 05:17:08 pm
I'm kind of nervous since I think I won't be able to achieve the score I want for English when I complete VCE English.

What can I do out and in class to prepare myself for VCE English, I'm currently year 9.
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: brenden on November 09, 2014, 05:27:02 pm
Read as much books as you can and write the occasional short story/blog post and you'll set yourself up for a 50 :p
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: Kaleidoscope on November 09, 2014, 05:30:32 pm
I'm kind of nervous since I think I won't be able to achieve the score I want for English when I complete VCE English.

What can I do out and in class to prepare myself for VCE English, I'm currently year 9.

I'd say read 'intellectual' books to widen your vocab and strengthen your grammar - once your foundations are strong you should be good to go in any direction. Also get used to the format of essays and try writing creative pieces to see if you have any underlying strength there.
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: InNeedForHelp on November 09, 2014, 09:56:11 pm
Read as much books as you can and write the occasional short story/blog post and you'll set yourself up for a 50 :p
Would reading GoT and Hunger Games series suffice?  ;)
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: literally lauren on November 09, 2014, 11:52:37 pm
Would reading GoT and Hunger Games series suffice?  ;)

Just those over the next two years... probably not...
I'd recommend looking at some search engines that can help you find books similar to those you like. Try and broaden your reading spheres as much as possible though.
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: InNeedForHelp on November 10, 2014, 05:21:16 pm
Just those over the next two years... probably not...
I'd recommend looking at some search engines that can help you find books similar to those you like. Try and broaden your reading spheres as much as possible though.
Thanks!

Can you recommend me any books that you've enjoyed? Im going to China in Christmas but I don't want to completely forget about english  :P
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: EvangelionZeta on November 10, 2014, 08:58:01 pm
Thanks!

Can you recommend me any books that you've enjoyed? Im going to China in Christmas but I don't want to completely forget about english  :P

Here's a good list to start with of books that are both enjoyable and yet intellectually challenging:

Never Let Me Go (Kazuo Ishiguro)
The Secret History (Donna Tartt)
Atonement (Ian McEwan)
Frankenstein (Mary Shelley)
The Boat (Nam Le)
Swallow the Air (Tara June Winch)

But also - don't just read fiction, read anything and everything!  Read online articles, essays, anything you can find.  It's not about reading just to improve your VCE score, it's about reading for the sake of being an avid reader (which, trust me, is incredibly valuable as a state of being in and of itself).

If you want to focus on VCE English skills, also just do some writing on your own.  Write notes to yourself, essays on things you find interest, short stories, reviews, anything.  Seriously.
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: InNeedForHelp on November 11, 2014, 09:29:38 am
Here's a good list to start with of books that are both enjoyable and yet intellectually challenging:

Never Let Me Go (Kazuo Ishiguro)
The Secret History (Donna Tartt)
Atonement (Ian McEwan)
Frankenstein (Mary Shelley)
The Boat (Nam Le)
Swallow the Air (Tara June Winch)

But also - don't just read fiction, read anything and everything!  Read online articles, essays, anything you can find.  It's not about reading just to improve your VCE score, it's about reading for the sake of being an avid reader (which, trust me, is incredibly valuable as a state of being in and of itself).

If you want to focus on VCE English skills, also just do some writing on your own.  Write notes to yourself, essays on things you find interest, short stories, reviews, anything.  Seriously.
What sort of essays should I be writing that would benefit me in VCE.

I also want to mature my writing, but I'm not sure how? Does this happen by time, or can I speed up the process?
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: EvangelionZeta on November 23, 2014, 05:29:18 pm
What sort of essays should I be writing that would benefit me in VCE.

I also want to mature my writing, but I'm not sure how? Does this happen by time, or can I speed up the process?

Literally just write anything.  Like, I think people get way too caught up in the idea that you have to write in a specific style for VCE - that's true to some degree, but mastering that style really just relies on you getting better at writing in general.  To put it in perspective, I've been getting my current students to write diary entries - seriously, anything will help.
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: Lawliet on November 28, 2014, 04:35:33 pm
What sort of preparations or things should we do in the months preceding year 12 other than reading our texts?
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: nikegod on November 28, 2014, 04:59:23 pm
What sort of preparations or things should we do in the months preceding year 12 other than reading our texts?

Work on your vocab. Compile a list, work them into sentences, memorise phrases - expanding your lexical arsenal will pay in dividends when you're faced with 50-55 mins to write an 800-1200 word essay, with the ultimate goal of impressing the examiners, three times over. Don't use ridiculous language, but rather, choice words, with very specific meanings that more accurately convey your intentions, as these will help you stand out. Easy to do from the get go, but also whilst doing your own reading. I defined any words I didn't know using my phone, and then screenshotted those definitions and saved them into an album that I would look over once a week or so. Really helped with the exam, as you don't want to be repeating words, especially in section C where some students use 'suggests' and 'shows' in every second sentence.
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: Lawliet on November 29, 2014, 04:05:03 pm
Thank you !  :D
I will try to make these my habits over the summer holidays.
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: lolaishappy on December 16, 2014, 06:28:41 pm
I wanted ask would reading the newspaper be a better alternative to reading novels? I mean if your atleast interested  in the world news, since choosing novels can be a hassle while the newspaper is general. You know what I mean? Jellybean?
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: ras on December 16, 2014, 06:40:54 pm
I wanted ask would reading the newspaper be a better alternative to reading novels? I mean if your atleast interested  in the world news, since choosing novels can be a hassle while the newspaper is general. You know what I mean? Jellybean?

Reading the newspaper is perfect, particularly for VCE English. It helps immensely for language analysis, and can also help progress your vocab. Moreover, if you are aware of current issues it can be easier to find evidence relevant to the context study. Trying to read the newspaper each day definitely helped me improve my English throughout this year :)
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: lolaishappy on December 16, 2014, 06:44:30 pm
Reading the newspaper is perfect, particularly for VCE English. It helps immensely for language analysis, and can also help progress your vocab. Moreover, if you are aware of current issues it can be easier to find evidence relevant to the context study. Trying to read the newspaper each day definitely helped me improve my English throughout this year :)

Yaay we gon ace this ras lol. Also what newspaper did you read, I'm reading the Herald Sun, but what about The Age? It's alot complicated, than HS. I dnt know if you know, but is there more opinion pieces in there?
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: cosine on December 16, 2014, 06:46:20 pm
Guys i just really lack motivation and a sense of willingness for english. I acknowledge the fact that english is the most important subject, but i just CANT enjoy it! What can I do to enjoy it, because I know that once i enjoy it, i will do relatively well in it :(
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: sparked on December 16, 2014, 06:48:47 pm
Hey!

So I got a 50 (cannot believe it, absolutely stoked!) and I'll make a short video as to how I (think I) got a 50.

Until then - the single, biggest piece of advice I can give you - is to practice!!!

Practice your writing, spelling, expression. Practice construction of ideas. KNOW your text.

What do you like the least about it??
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: cosine on December 16, 2014, 06:52:37 pm
Hey!

So I got a 50 (cannot believe it, absolutely stoked!) and I'll make a short video as to how I (think I) got a 50.

Until then - the single, biggest piece of advice I can give you - is to practice!!!

Practice your writing, spelling, expression. Practice construction of ideas. KNOW your text.

What do you like the least about it??

I think it just seems pointless to me... like writing essays, whats the point? I just cant see why... haha hope i dont offend anyone, its just my honest feeling towards english :(
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: appleandbee on December 16, 2014, 06:58:18 pm
Hey!

So I got a 50 (cannot believe it, absolutely stoked!) and I'll make a short video as to how I (think I) got a 50.

Until then - the single, biggest piece of advice I can give you - is to practice!!!

Practice your writing, spelling, expression. Practice construction of ideas. KNOW your text.

What do you like the least about it??

Just wondering what context theme did you do? Just wondering because I'm currently brainstorming ideas for Whose Reality, my teacher doesn't like students referencing other texts outside of the selected ones, because she doesn't like us to do story telling.

True I love English and much as I love maths (a lot)  :D
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: M_BONG on December 16, 2014, 07:19:01 pm
Just wondering what context theme did you do? Just wondering because I'm currently brainstorming ideas for Whose Reality, my teacher doesn't like students referencing other texts outside of the selected ones, because she doesn't like us to do story telling.

True I love English and much as I love maths (a lot)  :D
Woop *virtual high-five*. Whose Reality is actually really, really interesting since it's very philosophical (a bit self-diagnostic for me, hah) And I would say that your teacher is wrong because the whole purpose with Context is that you are using your set texts only as a springboard for bigger ideas and the only way you are going to do that is by using external examples/texts.

I am really keen to share some of my Whose Reality insights - cuz it's so interesting. PM me/post here if you need help with brainstorming!
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: literally lauren on December 16, 2014, 07:46:57 pm
I think it just seems pointless to me... like writing essays, whats the point? I just cant see why... haha hope i dont offend anyone, its just my honest feeling towards english :(
No offence taken, I'm pretty sure every VCE student has thought this at some point.

Where do I start...

From a purely pragmatic standpoint, English has to count in your top 4 subjects for Year 12 (unless you're also doing Englang or Lit.) so assuming you want to do well in VCE - a fairly safe assumption on AtarNotes ;) - it's worth investing some time in what is essentially a very easy subject once you've got the conceptual understanding.

In terms of why you should write essays, it's often the best way to improve, and it's pretty much the only way to consolidate your knowledge. If you were to ask the same thing of another subject (ie. why do practice exams for maths? why rehearse my oral for my language study?) you'll get your answer. It's not like you should be constantly churning out essays all year; I probably wouldn't have written any more than 20 throughout Year 12. There are many other ways to study which are much more effective for some people:
You get the idea.

Where you get your motivation is entirely up to you. Some students are entirely extrinsic, eg. 'I want to beat my smart arse friend' or 'I to get amazing results and share them with the world AtarNotes.' Others do it for their own reasons, eg. personal (and sometimes arbitrary) Study Score aims, or that rarest reason of all: knowledge for knowledge's own sake.

Even though I enjoy the idea of English (surprise!) I'm not really a staunch defender of the practicality of the current VCE course. Yes - most of you will never have to worry about writing an essay again. Nor will you ever be weighed down by the intricacies of topic sentences and contention identification. Unless you go on and do an English degree, but what kind of idiot wastes her life doing that!?
(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/102011/1319738930_homer_simpson_hides_in_hedge.gif)

However, there is some underlying lesson to be learned in practicing expressing yourself clearly and concisely. There are very few careers out there that don't rely on some form of communication.

If you're like me and don't find yourself invested in the numerical outcome, you could always find interests between the lines of the study design. For instance, did you know there's a word that means 'pertaining to, or suited to horses'? There is. It's 'caballine.' You can use that in a Context essay - if you can make it relevant. My friends used to challenge me to incorporate the most bizarre things (current record is fruit bowl, Albuquerque, and coathangers, all in the one essay.)
I even wrote one of the GAT pieces without using the letter 'e' for a $50 bet.
and yes, I totally won

No VCE subject is inherently enjoyable; your mindset will make all the difference. I could spend an hour typing up all the great things I've discovered, or the stuff I never would have learned if I hadn't first begun to engage with the English course, but my best advice is for you to make it enjoyable in your own way - whatever that may be.
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: appleandbee on December 16, 2014, 08:12:18 pm
I think it just seems pointless to me... like writing essays, whats the point? I just cant see why... haha hope i dont offend anyone, its just my honest feeling towards english :(

I don't think we should pick on English alone. You say in pretty much every post that you love maths, well most careers don't require a knowledge of calculus or advanced probability. I'm sure most people that study maths because of uni pre-reqs, can't appreciate mathematical beauty or logic nor see its applications,  it seems pointless to them. In history, you can look at it in this way 'why should we be studying the past, when we are living in the present and looking to the future?' Learning so much about chemical bonding seems pointless to many people because they can't relate to it. I guess it's hard to see the point in fields that are out of our spectrum.

I didn't like English until this year, when we started analyzing texts in more depth. Every text in the VCE curriculum,  contain ideas/ values underpinning the society we live in, there's always a reason why a text is in the curriculum. Rather than just seeing it as a subject where you write essays perhaps put more emphasis on exploring the ideas that reflect the human condition and the society we live in, and see essays as a vehicle for expressing those ideas in a coherent way.

Woop *virtual high-five*. Whose Reality is actually really, really interesting since it's very philosophical (a bit self-diagnostic for me, hah) And I would say that your teacher is wrong because the whole purpose with Context is that you are using your set texts only as a springboard for bigger ideas and the only way you are going to do that is by using external examples/texts.

I am really keen to share some of my Whose Reality insights - cuz it's so interesting. PM me/post here if you need help with brainstorming!

Yeah, Whose Reality is really interesting agreed  :)

I'll pm you later when I'm in more of an English mindset
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: 90+FTW on December 17, 2014, 06:58:54 pm
Essay Writing! Essay Writing! Essay Writing! I cannot stress this enough. That's a general preparation that you can apply to all of VCE English, individually speaking however, different things work for different sections of the exam.

For text response:
Know your content very well and ensure that you're able to manipulate it properly and clearly. You need to look at the specific features of your text and see how they contribute to the overall interpretation...there's more but I can't be bothered blabbing on about it sorry. lol (very tired at the moment)

For context:
You really need to determine whether you want to lean towards a creative, semi creative or expository piece. I actually prefer expository pieces since I believe that examining the topic sentence through this form is much easier. This is one of the most important things, and surprisingly many students just write essays without addressing the question at all, tut tut! For example, I did Whose Reality (and fucking loved it with all my heart) but it involves A LOT of abstract concepts that need to be reified clearly through language. Doing that via stories and poems, which are already quite broad and abstract can work to one's detriment. However, doing it in an essay format is much easier since you can explicitly refer to the topic question, ensuring that you stay on track - at least I believe it is. Of course, to each their own!

For language analysis
As a lit student, language analysis really wasn't a big deal to me. Lit is essentially language analysis, but at a more sophisticated level. It's difficult for me to say, but  just ensure that you know the linguistic terminology, how to follow the format and how to properly address TONE. It sounds odd for me to emphasis this, I know, but I spoke to the chief examiner about this and they said that tone is something many students forget to address (tut tut again!). I think this is probably the most important section, and I say this because (once again speaking to the chief examiner) if the examiners are unsure about whether to give you a 40+ study score in English they will ALWAYS look at your language analysis section to finally determine. Many students dismiss it, arguing that if they do better in the other two sections then it'll compensate (many of my students certainly said this!) for their language analysis. CERTAINLY NOT THE CASE.


apologies for the poor ranting.
Title: Re: How do I prepare myself for VCE English?
Post by: Superfruit on December 18, 2014, 03:37:06 pm
I'm kind of nervous since I think I won't be able to achieve the score I want for English when I complete VCE English.

What can I do out and in class to prepare myself for VCE English, I'm currently year 9.

The best thing is to do is to write heaps of practice essays and show them to your teacher at lunch. Aim for at least 7 practice essays before each test at school. Also, once you start doing language analysis, write one every week (try to...it really depends on how much time you have)
Good luck