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Title: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: Mellyboo on December 19, 2014, 11:32:17 pm
Ive been considering buying myself a tome like thesaurus. Was in the op shop the other day and came across a 10 volume thesaurus for $30.... Those things usually cost thousands. Should I invest in this or would it be little to no help reading one? I am finding myself quite excited to begin this task, seems like a challenge and I like me a challenge! Opinions ?
Title: Re: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: pi on December 19, 2014, 11:52:02 pm
So let me get this straight, you're in the holidays and are excited at the prospect of spending it reading a 10-volume Thesaurus from cover-to-cover?
Title: Re: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: datfatcat on December 19, 2014, 11:55:40 pm
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Title: Re: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: Mellyboo on December 20, 2014, 12:10:47 am
Hahahaha.....  ;D  :-[ I did not intend to read the entirety of the 10 volumes... I thought I should mention that a ten volume thesaurus was on sale for $30..... I'm not going to sit here and pretend that the thought of having a 10 volume thesaurus in my possession doesn't excite me... ::) But in all seriousness,  I did mean *a* thesaurus and nowhere did I state that it would be over the course of the holidays.
Title: Re: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: pi on December 20, 2014, 12:20:45 am
Um... ok, whatever floats your boat.

I guess to answer your question, it's not going to be helpful unless you have a photographic memory or something.
Title: Re: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: Bruzzix on December 20, 2014, 12:30:05 am
If you're looking to build upon your vocabulary, reading a whole thesaurus would be unproductive and exceptionally boring. I would suggest that you do a lot of reading and you'll passively acquire new words. Alternatively you could manually find new words you wish to learn and write sentence after sentence with them which is a faster albeit tedious technique for expanding your vocab. Good luck  8)  :D
Title: Re: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: literally lauren on December 20, 2014, 09:58:56 am
Thesauruses aren't really a good way of acquiring words; most of what you'll read will either be pages and pages of words you already know, or unnecessary jargon/ technical terminology that won't help much. To read a thesaurus for vocab, you'll need a dictionary too, since most of them won't have the definition of all the alternate words it provides. However, they can be really useful tools for expanding vocab if you use them right.

Also, depending how these 'tomes' are structured, you're probably not going to enjoy yourself. Alphabetical ones are kind of pointless since they repeat entries like crazy. If you can get your hands on a Roget's Thesaurus then that's probably your best bet. It's organised in a logical manner (kind of split in two, don't worry, it's easy to work out) and much more enjoyable to read.

Health warning though: as someone who used to read dictionaries, it's hella bad for your eyes. Like, I'm pretty sure that's the reason I have to wear reading glasses and get intermittent headaches nowadays because that tiny print and diacritic annotation is really tough to get through.

A better exercise would be to go through some of your old essays and see if you can pick out any words you're repeating, or any simplistic vocab that doesn't help communicate your ideas fully. These are the ones you can look up in a thesaurus. From here you can develop your own mini-thesaurus, or at least vocab list, to refer back to. I'd highly recommend having one of these for your English T.R. texts for all the major themes or character descriptors (eg. if you were studying A Christmas Carol, rather than having to call Scrooge 'greedy' in every essay, you could use avaristic, misanthropic, usurious etc.)

Alternatively, if you're just looking to casually browse (which is more fun, but probably won't help as far as memory retention goes) then looking up random things on thesaurus.com can be a good idea. Since it's all hyperlinked you don't have to worry about looking up entries by flicking pages, you can just click your way around and drift from 'magnanimous' to 'avuncular,' kind of like that wikipedia challenge where you go from one article to a seemingly unrelated one in 10 moves or whatever.

A brilliant book to read: 'Reading the OED' by Ammon Shea <-- some guy who read the whole OED. All 27 volumes or something crazy, and the documented all the interesting words he found in this book. Very few of these will be relevant from a VCE English perspective, though it's really fun to have them at your disposal.
My personal favourite: 'peristeronic' /adj/ of or pertaining to pigeons.
Any day now that's going to come in handy...
Title: Re: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: Mellyboo on December 20, 2014, 10:37:46 am
That's really helpful, thanks Lauren. I was partially looking to increase my vocab, but as you mentioned, it might be interesting to flick through.
Title: Re: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: dankfrank420 on December 20, 2014, 10:54:37 pm
If I'm competing in VCE against kids who think reading a thesaurus from front-to-back is "exciting", then I'm well and truly f*cked.
Title: Re: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: Mellyboo on December 20, 2014, 11:07:12 pm
If I'm competing in VCE against kids who think reading a thesaurus from front-to-back is "exciting", then I'm well and truly f*cked.

Quite the opposite, thanks to these posts I've come to realise that it will be a completely inefficient way to increase vocabulary, however, that being said I did end up purchasing the mother of all thesauri today, Lol.
Title: Re: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: lolaishappy on December 21, 2014, 10:37:50 am
Why not read something like the newspaper? Then you'll understand how to properly use a word. Unless your eminem who reads the dictionary to become a better rapper  ::)
Title: Re: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: Mellyboo on December 21, 2014, 11:29:53 am
I do read the newspaper.
Why not read something like the newspaper? Then you'll understand how to properly use a word. Unless your eminem who reads the dictionary to become a better rapper  ::)
Title: Re: Reading a thesaurus back to front
Post by: lolaishappy on December 21, 2014, 11:32:37 am
I do read the newspaper.

yaaay