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Title: Anyone like blackjack?
Post by: lolz0r on August 13, 2009, 09:46:17 pm
Hi.

I was interested in calculating the house advantage of the casino in various games and was wondering how one would find this out for blackjack, with the rules, dealer has to stand on soft 17 and no insurance and blackjack paying 3 to 2.

Edit: assuming one played with perfect basic strategy and did not count cards
Title: Re: Anyone like bj?
Post by: zzdfa on August 13, 2009, 09:59:05 pm
1) make a simulation
or
2) for each possible hand the dealer can get, find the prob. of the dealer getting that hand and find the probability that the player will beat it using basic strategy (massive markov chain)

i'd probably just do 1), 2) looks boring

why do you want to do this anyway? there's tons of work already done on this (see wikipedia) and it seems like a tedious exercise
Title: Re: Anyone like bj?
Post by: shinny on August 13, 2009, 09:59:33 pm
Guys stay on topic please (spam was deleted).

Quote from: lolz0r on August 13, 2009, 09:46:17 pm
assuming one played with perfect basic strategy

Perhaps define what this is? Might be best to just define a minimum number on which to stand on.
Title: Re: Anyone like bj?
Post by: zzdfa on August 13, 2009, 10:00:07 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackjack#Basic_strategy
Title: Re: Anyone like bj?
Post by: shinny on August 13, 2009, 10:07:00 pm
Quote from: zzdfa on August 13, 2009, 10:00:07 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackjack#Basic_strategy

Oh sorry, didn't know it was a formally defined thing.
Title: Re: Anyone like blackjack?
Post by: costargh on August 13, 2009, 11:24:26 pm
Moderator action: Changed thread title to something a little less misleading/less ambiguous.
Title: Re: Anyone like blackjack?
Post by: xXNovaxX on August 14, 2009, 03:08:53 pm
Quote from: costargh on August 13, 2009, 11:24:26 pm
Moderator action: Changed thread title to something a little less misleading/less ambiguous.

LOL!! Good call costargh, i saw the thread title, and i was thinking "hmmm, is it just me, or hasn't anyone picked it up"
Title: Re: Anyone like blackjack?
Post by: shinny on August 14, 2009, 10:49:11 pm
Quote from: xXNovaxX on August 14, 2009, 03:08:53 pm
Quote from: costargh on August 13, 2009, 11:24:26 pm
Moderator action: Changed thread title to something a little less misleading/less ambiguous.

LOL!! Good call costargh, i saw the thread title, and i was thinking "hmmm, is it just me, or hasn't anyone picked it up"


Plenty of people did...well, too many, and hence why I had to delete the posts since it was going waaaaaay off-topic.