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Uni Stuff => Science => Faculties => Biomedicine => Topic started by: cosine on December 18, 2015, 09:02:44 am
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Biomedicine at UoM or Biomedicine/Science at Monash University?
This has probably been answered many times in the past, but would someone be able to answer this for me please? What is the main benefit of doing a double degree against single? And if you were to do biomedicine at UoM or Monash, what are the differences between the two? There has to be some differences, as the ATAR entry for Melbourne is higher then Monash, right?
Thank you
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There's no "answer" to this, from the perspective of someone not enrolled in either (and hence, hopefully less bias), these are the factors I'd consider:
1) Location: which one is closer to you? I think everyone would agree that UoM has a much more desirable location
2) Guarantees: Monash has a non-GAMSAT pathway for 50 Biomed students for their graduate-entry MBBS (in addition, non-Monash students can not get into this medical pathway)
3) Cohorts: the UoM cohort will have bigger ATARs and hence, will be probably be a stronger cohort academically
4) Social: from what I gather the UoM Biomed soc is more active than the Monash one
5) Prestige: probably not a factor, I've once heard from a Deakin med lecturer that the quality of med school graduates in Victoria is now "Monash on top, then Melb, then Deakin" (awkward thing for him to say), but I'm sure everyone says different things and in reality they're all probably the same (ie. med is med is med everywhere and anywhere)
6) Scholarships: if you have one that's great, free money is a good thing and can push you either way
7) Mates: where are your mates going, probably the least important reason
I guess it's a pretty individual choice based on how important you deem each of those factors. If it was me, factor 2) would push me towards Monash.
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There's no "answer" to this, from the perspective of someone not enrolled in either (and hence, hopefully less bias), these are the factors I'd consider:
1) Location: Melbourne. Monash would take me about 1.45 hours to get to, one way..
2) Guarantees: True, but willing to work my ass off for either, I wouldn't be choosing Biomed if I knew I wouldn't be graduating it
3) Cohorts: True, but as stated above
4) Social: I dont really mind not socialising, but I guess thats just a bonus
5) Prestige: Med is med, you're right
6) Scholarships: Got a (quoted by EulerFan) 'small' scholarship from Monash - nothing from Melb yet
7) Mates: Don't have any tbh
Honestly I don't know which to choose.. Seems to be that you are leaning towards Monash, so am I right now... but the whole year its been my dream/goal to enter Biomedicine at UoM, and finally I may have a chance... Im so confused rn
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Fact: it is difficult to have a dream for a whole year, and then let it go because you realised there's something better.
It means you've struggled, pushed and cried over something for a whole year, and then deciding that you don't want that thing. It's almost as if all that effort was wasted. Particularly if it looks like you might actually get that thing, and then push it away. It's kind of like spending a whole day making a chocolate cake, and then when you put it on the cooling rack, you decide that you should've made a vanilla cake - the whole time, smelling the cake as it cool.
If you're currently biased to Monash, maybe it's a better choice for you? Do you have any family at either university that can weigh in? Because that's helped some people that I know.
EDIT: Also, just saw your responses LOL allow me to weigh in:
1. It takes me 1.5 hours to get to Monash atm, and it's killer. Like, really consider travel.
4. No matter which uni you go to, you'll be paying around $300 for them to make social life at uni good. Remember that.
6. You'd be surprised how quickly money can go... Like, it might seem big now (I know I thought the same thing), but shit can disappear fast.
7. lolwut. I'm sure there's lots of people on here that would consider you a mate!
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Fact: it is difficult to have a dream for a whole year, and then let it go because you realised there's something better.
It means you've struggled, pushed and cried over something for a whole year, and then deciding that you don't want that thing. It's almost as if all that effort was wasted. Particularly if it looks like you might actually get that thing, and then push it away. It's kind of like spending a whole day making a chocolate cake, and then when you put it on the cooling rack, you decide that you should've made a vanilla cake - the whole time, smelling the cake as it cool.
If you're currently biased to Monash, maybe it's a better choice for you? Do you have any family at either university that can weigh in? Because that's helped some people that I know.
Yah you are right, but I will be honest and say, I have always wanted Biomedicine at Melbourne University because of it's prestigious name associated with Medicine etc. My brother goes to Monash, but says that the trip to the University (1.45hr) is a pain.
So in terms of benefits, Monash basically accepts 50 extra Medicine students than Melbourne does, right? But what is the ratio? Like aside these extra 50 students, how many students get into Medicine? I mean if its something like 75, then obviously Monash University would mean a higher chance of getting accepted, but if its something like 250, then not much of problem.
Thank you guys for helping a brother out.
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Jumping in because this is my exact dilemma ???
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So in terms of benefits, Monash basically accepts 50 extra Medicine students than Melbourne does, right? But what is the ratio? Like aside these extra 50 students, how many students get into Medicine? I mean if its something like 75, then obviously Monash University would mean a higher chance of getting accepted, but if its something like 250, then not much of problem.
Not quite, I'm no expert on this but I think it works like this: the graduate-entry Monash MBBS (same course as the undergrad version except 4 years instead of 5, with the first year being in Gippsland and the other years being mixed with the undergrads) takes 75 students in total. 50 of those students will be from the Monash Biomed cohort based on WAM (determines who gets the MMI and is weighted 40% for the offer) and an MMI (weighted 60%). These 50 people do NOT need to sit the GAMSAT. The remaining 25 places will be for other people from Monash degrees (namely Biomed (including double degrees and students who commenced prior to 2014), Pharmacy, Physiotherapy, and some people in Science). No one who gets these places, either the first 50 or the second 25, needs to sit the GAMSAT to gain a place. These places are only for Monash students, students sitting Biomed degrees elsewhere cannot now get into Monash medicine.
In addition, people in Monash Biomed can ALSO apply for courses such as the Deakin MBBS, UoM MD, etc etc. which may require the GAMSAT. There are several hundred medical spots around Australia that can be accessed via the GAMSAT.
Hence, the advantage with Monash Biomed is that it gives you a non-GAMSAT pathway option as well as numerous GAMSAT-pathway options. UoM Biomed only gives you GAMSAT-pathway options.
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Is moving out of home feasible for you? A 90 minute commute is pretty awful and was an absolute dealbreaker for me when I was considering universities after VCE.
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Is moving out of home feasible for you? A 90 minute commute is pretty awful and was an absolute dealbreaker for me when I was considering universities after VCE.
Nah probably not an option right now unfortunately..
Not quite, I'm no expert on this but I think it works like this: the graduate-entry Monash MBBS (same course as the undergrad version except 4 years instead of 5, with the first year being in Gippsland and the other years being mixed with the undergrads) takes 75 students in total. 50 of those students will be from the Monash Biomed cohort based on WAM (determines who gets the MMI and is weighted 40% for the offer) and an MMI (weighted 60%). These 50 people do NOT need to sit the GAMSAT. The remaining 25 places will be for other people from Monash degrees (namely Biomed (including double degrees and students who commenced prior to 2014), Pharmacy, Physiotherapy, and some people in Science). No one who gets these places, either the first 50 or the second 25, needs to sit the GAMSAT to gain a place. These places are only for Monash students, students sitting Biomed degrees elsewhere cannot now get into Monash medicine.
In addition, people in Monash Biomed can ALSO apply for courses such as the Deakin MBBS, UoM MD, etc etc. which may require the GAMSAT. There are several hundred medical spots around Australia that can be accessed via the GAMSAT.
Hence, the advantage with Monash Biomed is that it gives you a non-GAMSAT pathway option as well as numerous GAMSAT-pathway options. UoM Biomed only gives you GAMSAT-pathway options.
Im really nervous rn... I still don't know which one to put as my first preference, Monash is sounding better though, should I go with it? idk
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Okay so I am about to change my first preference to Bachelor of Biomedicine/Science at Monash University in a moment, but I just want someone to confirm what the benefit of doing a double degree is? Also, you know how pi said that 75 students from Monash don't have to sit the GAMSAT, how do you become one of these 75 people?
Thank you
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How long would it take you to travel to Melbourne and how important is the scholarship money offered by Monash?
edit: scratch that, I'm 40 seconds late. Looks like you're set on the decision. Good luck!
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How long would it take you to travel to Melbourne and how important is the scholarship money offered by Monash?
edit: scratch that, I'm 40 seconds late. Looks like you're set on the decision. Good luck!
Melbourne: 45 mins
Monash: 1.45 hours
Not doing it for the money honestly, 2k is nothing, doing it for the non-GAMSAT pathway, can anyone enlighten me as to how to be non-GAMSAT worthy in Biomed?
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Melbourne: 45 mins
Monash: 1.45 hours
Not doing it for the money honestly, 2k is nothing, doing it for the non-GAMSAT pathway, can anyone enlighten me as to how to be non-GAMSAT worthy in Biomed?
By being in the top 75
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Melbourne: 45 mins
Monash: 1.45 hours
Not doing it for the money honestly, 2k is nothing, doing it for the non-GAMSAT pathway, can anyone enlighten me as to how to be non-GAMSAT worthy in Biomed?
You just have to be one of the top 50 biomed students! Also not sure if the 50 biomed students extends to those doing a double degree, I'd presume it is but maybe just double check?
If you are dead set on med, it makes little sense to go to Melbourne practically speaking, why not go to the uni that offers a pathway into medicine with one less hurdle? Plus you could always end up in Melbourne's MD even if you do go to Monash. Just my 2c, I've been in the same position as you all year but think I've finally made the right decision :)
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Im in a similar dilemma. Wanted to ask , so if you have to be in the top 50 or 75 of how many approx? How about the rest of the ppl do they still have to sit GAMSAT to be able to get a chance at med? Or they don't even get a chance?
Also , heard that Melb is planning to also make their MD exclusive to there students. If such happens and I end up at monash does that mean to study in melb I only have monash as an option?
Thanks in advance :)
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You just have to be one of the top 50 biomed students! Also not sure if the 50 biomed students extends to those doing a double degree, I'd presume it is but maybe just double check?
Yeah you can. They interview the top 100 or so biomed people based on WAM and then use MMI scores to determine the 50.
One of my mates did biomed/sci and then ended up dropped this sci to focus on biomed. I'll try and get him to post in this thread :P
Also , heard that Melb is planning to also make their MD exclusive to there students. If such happens and I end up at monash does that mean to study in melb I only have monash as an option?
Thanks in advance :)
Well that's just speculation and afaik UoM haven't released anything saying that. Could happen though, but I think it would be unfair for it to effect people already in uni (the Monash one had like a 3 year transition so no one in uni missed out).
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Melbourne: 45 mins
Monash: 1.45 hours
Not doing it for the money honestly, 2k is nothing, doing it for the non-GAMSAT pathway, can anyone enlighten me as to how to be non-GAMSAT worthy in Biomed?
Im in the same position as you. Except its for Arts. And i live about 20 min from Platform 1 at the station near your school. Idk why but something is telling me Monash and not Melbourne.
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when does change of preference close?
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when does change of preference close?
21 December (12noon) -- tomorrow.
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Okay so JUST to be sure....
1. What is the advantage of doing Bachelor Biomedicine/Science at Monash, instead of doing Biomedicine at Monash ?
2. So for people at Melbourne University sitting Biomedicine, do they ALL have to sit GAMSAT!
Thank you
@warya and @sunshine98 and @alter what's your first preference ?
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Well that's just speculation and afaik UoM haven't released anything saying that. Could happen though, but I think it would be unfair for it to effect people already in uni (the Monash one had like a 3 year transition so no one in uni missed out).
Oh k . But do u think if it were to happen they would do the whole 3 year transition as well? Cause now I'm reconsidering everything. I was certain with going to unimelb but now...guys im so confused ???
Wanted to ask , so if you have to be in the top 50 or 75 of how many approx? How about the rest of the ppl do they still have to sit GAMSAT to be able to get a chance at med? Or they don't even get a chance?
Anyone know about this ? Cause if its like a gazillion students that would make it extremely difficult.
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@warya and @sunshine98 and @alter what's your first preference ?
Biomedicine at UoM. Monash is simply too far away.
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Okay so JUST to be sure....
1. What is the advantage of doing Bachelor Biomedicine/Science at Monash, instead of doing Biomedicine at Monash ?
2. So for people at Melbourne University sitting Biomedicine, do they ALL have to sit GAMSAT!
Thank you
@warya and @sunshine98 and @alter what's your first preference ?
1) hmm not sure, they're both very similar degrees? Not sure how it would benefit you in the long run. Also would consider the cost of a double degree vs single degree, especially if you want to do postgrad study.
2) Yes, only Monash has the non gamsat pathway, but you'd sit the gamsat if you went to Monash anyway so to be eligible for Deakin and Melbourne.
3) Biomedical science Monash, after much deliberation
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Oh k . But do u think if it were to happen they would do the whole 3 year transition as well? Cause now I'm reconsidering everything. I was certain with going to unimelb but now...guys im so confused ???Anyone know about this ? Cause if its like a gazillion students that would make it extremely difficult.
Go to VTAC and then coursesearch and type in biomedicine. This page shows you how many offers there were, Counting the 7 degrees with biomedicine in it (biomed+law, biomed+sci etc), there are ~650 people doing 1st year biomed in 2015. Keep in mind that not everyone is aiming for medicine. So you have to be in the top 7% of biomed students. However, there might be more students applying for biomed at Monash this year.
Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
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@warya and @sunshine98 and @alter what's your first preference ?
As of now , its pending. But it was initially Biomed at UoM. Mainly cause I thought that post grad med at monash was all at Gippsland and that would be impossible to do because its like 1 hr and 40 mins . But one year seems bearable , I guess. I seriously don't know any more. So confused.
If I were to think travel wise for me UoM is ~30 mins monash 50 mins.
Im confused ???
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Oh k . But do u think if it were to happen they would do the whole 3 year transition as well? Cause now I'm reconsidering everything. I was certain with going to unimelb but now...guys im so confused ???
Very hard to say as we're all just speculating here, but I would think they'd have to do it. It would just be so unfair otherwise.
Anyone know about this ? Cause if its like a gazillion students that would make it extremely difficult.
I think it's like ~300-400 people in Biomed? Not everyone is going for med though and not everyone is going to have a competitive WAM. I'm sure the exact numbers are in the VTAC guide for everyone in Biomed and Biomed doubles.
Edit: as above seems there are 650
2. So for people at Melbourne University sitting Biomedicine, do they ALL have to sit GAMSAT!
Except Chancellors, yes. They all have to sit the GAMSAT.
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Are there less people in UoM biomed?
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The VTAC guide should have all the numbers.
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I think those who get 99+ ATAR and have a WAM of 75%+ don't have to sit the GAMSAT.
http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/high_achievers_programs/graduate-course-guarantees/graduate_course_guarantees_for_atar_96_or_above
Isn't that for a full fee place though
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There's more than 500 people in Melb biomed, I've heard a lot about one of the benefits of the course being having a small cohort...doesn't seem all that small lol
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There's more than 500 people in Melb biomed, I've heard a lot about one of the benefits of the course being having a small cohort...doesn't seem all that small lol
This is mostly said because of the massive amount of core/compulsory subjects in UoM Biomedicine and size of said cohort relative to Science/Arts/Commerce etc. I also wouldn't be surprised if more people did Biomedical Science at Monash because of double degrees and the lower clearly-in.
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This is mostly said because of the massive amount of core/compulsory subjects in UoM Biomedicine and size of said cohort relative to Science/Arts/Commerce etc. I also wouldn't be surprised if more people did Biomedical Science at Monash because of double degrees and the lower clearly-in.
Yeah, and I'd suspect there will be even more students in Monash biomed after the graduate medicine change. I'm sure there are many people like me who would have gone to Melbourne in a heartbeat otherwise. Perhaps the clearly in is gonna rise in the next few years.
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Ok guys I think I have made up my mind... Despite the travel time, I think the non-GAMSAT pathway is calling my name...
But Melbourne has been my legit dream all year :/
I don't know what to do...
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Guys what about Biomedicine Advanced Honours at Monash University, what advantage has this over the normal Biomedicine course?
Sorry for the noob questions, can't ask my brother rn, he's over seas -.-
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Yeah it is
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm also fairly sure FFP doesn't guarantee jnternship
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Guys what about Biomedicine Advanced Honours at Monash University, what advantage has this over the normal Biomedicine course?
Sorry for the noob questions, can't ask my brother rn, he's over seas -.-
An extra year, again, more relevant if you want to do research in the future. If you are worried about not getting into post grad med, if you do two first year maths subjects (linear algebra and calculus) then you can get into UoM master of engineering. Also, you can do post grad law, dentistry, optometry etc etc, biomedical science at Monash is a great degree to keep your options open. I'd say just do straight biomedical science, but of course, it's your choice.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm also fairly sure FFP doesn't guarantee jnternship
Who'd want to pay full fee anyways ??? :o
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so what do i do... xD
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guys might be a superrr simple q but what do you mean by full fee place ? I srs know nothing about uni and stuff. :-[
Edit: apologies for hijacking your thread cosine
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Guys I want to do Biomedicine at Melbourne because its closer, but I know the GAMSAT will be deathly. I think if I went to Monash Biomedicine I would work very hard to be in that top 7% to guarantee my place in Medicine without GAMSAT. But the travel...
Opinions please? I know its my future but is the GAMSAT (from what I have heard) much like the UMAT? And we all know I have history, unpleasant one, with the UMAT, and I don't want hard work to vanish because of an overrated test ...
Thank you
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I haven't sat the UMAT personally, but I know that you can sit the GAMSAT multiple times. The GAMSAT is also very much unlike the UMAT, but you can read up more about it as there's a whole subforum for the test here. There are tons of examples of people that have done not so well in the UMAT but gotten into the MD through the GAMSAT, so don't be demoralised by your past performance!
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GAMSAT is a little less subjective than the UMAT. The test is divided into three sections. The first section examines your reading comprehension skills. The second section assesses your written communication skills. The third section tests your knowledge of biology, chemistry and physics. The entire test is multiple choice, with the exception of the second section. In a sense, GAMSAT is more akin to the GAT than the UMAT. See the following link for further details about the test: https://gamsat.acer.edu.au/files/GAMSAT_Info_Booklet_16.pdf.
The good thing about GAMSAT is that unlike the UMAT it can be sat multiple times starting from the penultimate year of your undergrad degree; GEMSAS will take your highest score. Generally speaking, your score on GAMSAT is proportional to how much effort you put in.
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GAMSAT is a little less subjective than the UMAT. The test is divided into three sections. The first section examines your reading comprehension skills. The second section assesses your written communication skills. The third section tests your knowledge of biology, chemistry and physics. The entire test is multiple choice, with the exception of the second section. In a sense, GAMSAT is more akin to the GAT than the UMAT. See the following link for further details about the test: https://gamsat.acer.edu.au/files/GAMSAT_Info_Booklet_16.pdf.
The good thing about GAMSAT is that unlike the UMAT it can be sat multiple times starting from the penultimate year of your undergrad degree; GEMSAS will take your highest score. Generally speaking, your score on GAMSAT is proportional to how much effort you put in.
Cheers guys, and so with the Melbourne University Biomedicine, what if you have the highest WAM in your cohort, do you still have to sit the GAMSAT? Like for Monash if you're top 7% then as Pi said you get a guarantee position. Also how many times can you sit the GAMSAT? And can you get into Medicine without it, via the Melbourne University Biomedicine?
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Guys I want to do Biomedicine at Melbourne because its closer, but I know the GAMSAT will be deathly. I think if I went to Monash Biomedicine I would work very hard to be in that top 7% to guarantee my place in Medicine without GAMSAT. But the travel...
Opinions please? I know its my future but is the GAMSAT (from what I have heard) much like the UMAT? And we all know I have history, unpleasant one, with the UMAT, and I don't want hard work to vanish because of an overrated test ...
Thank you
I have to travel 1.5hrs to Monash too, from what I've heard, you get used to it plus it's a good time to nap/watch TV shows/maybe even study.
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Cheers guys, and so with the Melbourne University Biomedicine, what if you have the highest WAM in your cohort, do you still have to sit the GAMSAT? Like for Monash if you're top 7% then as Pi said you get a guarantee position. Also how many times can you sit the GAMSAT? And can you get into Medicine without it, via the Melbourne University Biomedicine?
No, even if you have highest WAM you still have to sit GAMSAT. There is no limit to how many times you can sit the GAMSAT, but since you can only start sitting the GAMSAT in second year, there are a finite number of offerings (4-5 I believe), assuming that you are hoping to do med straight after third year. Those who have 99+ as an ATAR and have a GPA above 75 have a guaranteed full-fee paying place in med, but in order to get CSP, you have to sit GAMSAT unless as pi said you are a Chancellor's Scholar.
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Cheers guys, and so with the Melbourne University Biomedicine, what if you have the highest WAM in your cohort, do you still have to sit the GAMSAT? Like for Monash if you're top 7% then as Pi said you get a guarantee position. Also how many times can you sit the GAMSAT? And can you get into Medicine without it, via the Melbourne University Biomedicine?
First question, nope.
You can sit the GAMSAT twice (2nd and third year) and also after you finish biomedicine. There's also GAMSAT UK which you can sit in first year as well. And no, you can't get into medicine with out it unless your chancellors or the 99 atar ffp mentioned before.
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Okay so hopefully last question here...
If I do Biomedicine at Melbourne, what WAM do I need to maintain in order to qualify for the GAMSAT?
Also if I don't pass the GAMSAT, then what happens now? Can I still go for medicine or do I need to do some other post graduate course that doesn't relate to medicine?
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Okay so hopefully last question here...
If I do Biomedicine at Melbourne, what WAM do I need to maintain in order to qualify for the GAMSAT?
Also if I don't pass the GAMSAT, then what happens now? Can I still go for medicine or do I need to do some other post graduate course that doesn't relate to medicine?
Anyone can sit the GAMSAT, there's no WAM barrier or cut-off to it. The WAM/GPA and GAMSAT scores are used for admission purposes (and probably determining who gets MMIs, I've never really looked into it so I'm not so sure). There's threads on PagingDr that have all these stats about what people got for GPA and GAMSAT and whether or not they got offers in various unis.
If you don't do well enough at the GAMSAT then I don't think it's possible to do medicine. You may get into optometry or some other health science graduate-entry course.
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I commuted 1.5 hrs to Melbourne every day in first year and my god was it fucking exhausting (wake up at 5.30 like 4 days a week)...and then you start skipping lectures
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guys might be a superrr simple q but what do you mean by full fee place ? I srs know nothing about uni and stuff. :-[
Edit: apologies for hijacking your thread cosine
Government doesnt susbsidise your fees. You pay 250,000 from your own pocket - you can get a loan from the government to cover around $100,000, but you need to work out how to finance the rest. You also arent guaranteed an internship.
Okay so hopefully last question here...
If I do Biomedicine at Melbourne, what WAM do I need to maintain in order to qualify for the GAMSAT?
Also if I don't pass the GAMSAT, then what happens now? Can I still go for medicine or do I need to do some other post graduate course that doesn't relate to medicine?
If you want to apply to many medical schools, you need to sit the GAMSAT irrespective of what your WAM is.
If you dont get a good enough GAMSAT score, try again and try again. If you dont manage to get a competitive GAMSAT by the time you finish your Bachelors, you can
a) Take a gap year
b) Do honours
c) Do another degree
And take the GAMSAT again and reapply for medicine.
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Thanks for the help guys, and sorry for hijacking once more but last q I promise
Just wondering if this is possible- can you transfer to either uni for third year? So like doing 2 years at one and going to do the third at the other? Would you be considered for the non- GAMSAT pathway at monash if you did this? (given that you had the marks and stuff)
Thank you :)
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Hey guys I can't stop with the questions...
Okay so once again im leaning towards Melbourne University Biomedicine, because mainly of the travel. Can someone tell me why the ATAR requirement is higher for Melbourne University as compared to Monash University? Because so far I see no benefit in doing Biomed at Melb over Monash...
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It's just supply and demand.. people with a higher ATAR want to do Biomed so the cut-off increases. Why? Probably for some of the reasons you're deciding to go, with travel being a huge factor. If Monash was located in the area where Melb Uni was and was more easily accessible, the ATAR would probably be similar to the Biomed cuttoff for Unimelb atm.
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ATAR clearly-ins are determined by the relative supply and demand of positions for a particular course. A university will set a certain number of places for students that they can take in, and then they rank all of the potential students in order of highest to lowest ATAR to determine the clearly-in. An exception to this obviously includes guaranteed entry through Access Melbourne.
The ATAR is not indicative of how well the course is taught or how much stronger is necessarily is compared to identical courses at other universities. If you're looking for more reason to go to Melbourne, I suppose you could consider the fact that you can pick a major in Biomed there. I don't think that is possible at Monash. Either way, I hope you're happy with your decision! Keep in mind you can't change preferences after tomorrow at noon. See you at UoM if you go there! :)
edit: ninja'd, oh well
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thank you so much that has definitely answered my question . I think I've made a decision too :)
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Just to clarify, if you go to Monash you will still need to sit the GAMSAT, in order to allow you to apply to other medical schools. It would be a large risk to not sit it and hope to be one of the top students.
FFP grads in Vic are in category 1 and will get internships ahead of interstate graduates. In the next few years I would not expect any of them to miss out on internships as a sole result of overcrowding (especially since VIC uses a CV based application system). In 7 years when you guys are graduating is less clear, but the agreement guaranteeing CSP internships may also have changed.
Also, travel time is a huge factor and I personally would not travel 90 minutes (i think this was the number discussed) if i had the options of a) moving or b) travelling less to a closer university.
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Just to clarify, if you go to Monash you will still need to sit the GAMSAT, in order to allow you to apply to other medical schools. It would be a large risk to not sit it and hope to be one of the top students.
FFP grads in Vic are in category 1 and will get internships ahead of interstate graduates. In the next few years I would not expect any of them to miss out on internships as a sole result of overcrowding (especially since VIC uses a CV based application system). In 7 years when you guys are graduating is less clear, but the agreement guaranteeing CSP internships may also have changed.
Also, travel time is a huge factor and I personally would not travel 90 minutes (i think this was the number discussed) if i had the options of a) moving or b) travelling less to a closer university.
Yeah you're right Russ, and I think I have made up my mind with Bachelor of Biomedicine at Melbourne University because it's less travel time and plus it's been my goal since Year 11! Now I just hope they accept me as I'm 0.15 off the Access entry!
Thank you for the help
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Is it easy to transfer between the two unis if I decide after the first day that the travel is too much? Haha
And will my Acess Melbourne still count if I want to transfer into Melbourne biomed?
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Is it easy to transfer between the two unis if I decide after the first day that the travel is too much? Haha
And will my Acess Melbourne still count if I want to transfer into Melbourne biomed?
Tomorrow get to Monash at 8am, if after that you can't see yourself doing that regularly for three years then you know it's too much for you :P