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General Discussion => General Discussion Boards => Technology and Gaming => Topic started by: Maz on March 04, 2016, 10:31:23 pm
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hey
i've had my dads old phone (not that old) for maybe 2.5ish years...so not forever
but i recently broke the screen (I'm not normally a clumsy person...it just happened... :P)
so now I'm getting a new phone...and was wandering if we could get back to the classic debate of apple vs samsung
ive had a samsung my whole life (not that it's some huge life- I'm 16)
i don't really do a lot of stuff on it..just my music and photos and social media... but idk if i should go over to
the apple side...or even which samsung to get...
id love to know you humans' thoughts?
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I'm a big sucker for samsung, having owned the galaxy s2 and s5. If you're comfortable with it, stick with it?
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I'm a big sucker for samsung, having owned the galaxy s2 and s5. If you're comfortable with it, stick with it?
thats what i thought about doing...but everyone has apples in my family...and most of my friends... and Idk... :o
actually I'm 17- i just realised that haha
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Look, there really is no need to change phone operating systems unless you absolutely have to.
iOS vs Android:
- More secure vs less secure (only less secure if you change settings or "root" your phone and don't know how to handle your new found power)
- Less customisation vs more customisation
- Simple vs not so simple (to operate, find things)
- New operating system vs your current operating system (you're used to Android already, why change?)
I made the move to Android (Samsung Galaxy S5) a year or so ago from an iPhone 4s and it was legitimately the best thing i've ever done. Given my background, I like to mess around with things and open up the backend of the phone software (e.g. root access, legal but will void any warranty you have with your manufacturer) and therefore Android is a perfect environment for me.
With what you've said in mind, I think you should stay with an Android phone given that you've already had first hand experience with this operating system (so you've already passed the biggest hurdle that phone users who move encounter).
What type of Samsung is your phone? The S6 has dropped price by around $300 since it was released last year, so i'd look into that. If you really want a pure Android experience (e.g. no apps that the manufacturer installs by default that you can't forcibly remove), then look into the Nexus line by Google. There are also a few other manufacturers that aren't Australia based that offer cheap Android varieties, but you'd have to look into them further (e.g. OnePlus, Saygus, Oppo, Xiaomi).
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If you've been a Samsung user your whole life, why would you want to go over to Apple? You'll notice a MASSIVE decrease in customisation in Apple, and also the whole vibe of a computer in your pocket. Droids can do so much more than iOs could, the Android OS is very similar to a Windows OS.
I got the S5 for $394 last year at Officeworks, and I highly recommend it. As a samsung (and I assume your old phone was running Android, or Windows), you'll be right at home. Any Galaxy phone should be fine.
There are also a few other manufacturers that aren't Australia based that offer cheap Android varieties, but you'd have to look into them further (e.g. OnePlus, Saygus, Oppo, Xiaomi).
I was looking to purchase a OnePlus One, but couldn't find a reliable place to purchase on in Australia. Would I have to root my S5 to remove all the apps that samsung installed? I've disabled most of them, but I can't remove them. They are obviously taking up heaps of my storage space.
What kind of things do you do with your root?
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Moto g 3rd gen, got one atm and loving it for ~$350
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Moto g 3rd gen, got one atm and loving it for ~$350
Yeah. Heard a lot about this one as well. Do you know what version of Android yours is running?
All we are saying is don't buy an iPhone if you want to play Pokemon on your phone.
I'm a big sucker for samsung, having owned the galaxy s2 and s5. If you're comfortable with it, stick with it?
Hey pi. Did you say some time back that you play PSP games on your S5? Are you using PPSSPP? I tried it and its so laggy...I didn't play around with the settings though.
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Yeah. Heard a lot about this one as well. Do you know what version of Android yours is running?
Marshmallow
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If you've been a Samsung user your whole life, why would you want to go over to Apple? You'll notice a MASSIVE decrease in customisation in Apple, and also the whole vibe of a computer in your pocket. Droids can do so much more than iOs could, the Android OS is very similar to a Windows OS.
I got the S5 for $394 last year at Officeworks, and I highly recommend it. As a samsung (and I assume your old phone was running Android, or Windows), you'll be right at home. Any Galaxy phone should be fine.
I was looking to purchase a OnePlus One, but couldn't find a reliable place to purchase on in Australia. Would I have to root my S5 to remove all the apps that samsung installed? I've disabled most of them, but I can't remove them. They are obviously taking up heaps of my storage space.
What kind of things do you do with your root?
Yeah, I looked at the OPO as well. Been a member on their forums for a verryyy long time now. Their phones have good specs, but in my honest opinion, it isn't worth buying something overseas because in most cases you can't claim warranty in Australia if it isn't sold in Australia. That's why I bought my S5 here in the event that something went wrong (... even though I ended up rooting the phone, making my warranty void anyway. hoorah!). I'm pretty sure at the beginning the OPO was running Cyanogenmod as well (refer to further down about CM).
Before I even say anything about root, please know that it is legal to root, but you run the risk of completely destroying your phone's functionality and as a result, you automatically void your warranty with Samsung once you start it (Samsung phones have something called a KNOX counter which gets tripped once you initiate the root process). This means if something goes wrong in the process and you can't turn your phone on, then you aren't covered by warranty anymore.
Yeah you would have to. Forcibly removing apps that you can't remove by other means is something that would need to be done using a terminal (linux experience required). Android's backend is basically a Linux machine. You could spend ages removing Samsung's bloatware via a terminal or simply replace the whole system 8)
What can you do with root? I'll give you two examples of what i've done:
- completely removed Samsung's version of Android (namely TouchWiz) because I hated pretty much everything about it. I now run a custom variant called Cyanogenmod (http://www.cyanogenmod.org)
- full terminal access (meaning I can access everything there is to know about my system, I can make it behave the way I want it to)
If you plan on doing this, I would seriously advise you on reading as many tutorials, practical videos etc. as possible because one wrong move and you can royally stuff your entire phone up. The first time I did it, I soft bricked (basically software stuff up, meaning nothing would happen when I turned my phone on) my phone twice and spent days trying to recover it. Good experience, but a pain.
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i think general consus is android...which i am fine with sticking to...
if i have an S4 right now...which one do you thing i should go to?
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samsung note 5 amazing phone :)
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Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. Releases on March 11.
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i think general consus is android...which i am fine with sticking to...
if i have an S4 right now...which one do you thing i should go to?
Move up to an S5 or S6 if you can, or the Note series as @heart mentioned, or you can be adventurous and go with a Nexus. They are all great devices. See how much a screen replacement for an S4 is (less than $100) if you're interested going down that path.
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I have always used Nexus phones and have always loved them. I have a Nexus 5X right now and its great.
If you plan on doing this, I would seriously advise you on reading as many tutorials, practical videos etc. as possible because one wrong move and you can royally stuff your entire phone up. The first time I did it, I soft bricked (basically software stuff up, meaning nothing would happen when I turned my phone on) my phone twice and spent days trying to recover it. Good experience, but a pain.
Yeah this has happened to me as well haha. Bricked my old Galaxy Nexus a few times when I first tried rooting it. It is annoying as hell but you learn so much out of trying to fix it. Just adding custom mods, like cyanogen mod, in general is fun and rewarding to do.
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I've had an Android my whole life too, and I honestly hate it. If it was my decision to make, I'd be buying an iPhone.
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I've had an Android my whole life too, and I honestly hate it. If it was my decision to make, I'd be buying an iPhone.
Why is that?
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Why is that?
I've had issues with it since forever; battery life has always been awful, so much crashing, freezing, lagging it makes it hard to do anything smoothly, apps I need don't work properly. I'm fairly sure it's an Android issue because I've had all these problems and more on every single phone I've ever used.
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I've had issues with it since forever; battery life has always been awful, so much crashing, freezing, lagging it makes it hard to do anything smoothly, apps I need don't work properly. I'm fairly sure it's an Android issue because I've had all these problems and more on every single phone I've ever used.
What kind of apps were you trying to run? These issues usually occur when someone tries to run a super new app on really old hardware. Or was this with a 'current' phone? I'm curious...what phone was it?
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My Android functionality has degraded in a way that I am given to understand iOS devices don't do, so I don't think it's an uncommon issue. I've never owned an iPhone but I'm probably going to pick one up next time I replace my phone (although some of that is for the ecosystem and iMessage)
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oh...the important decisions in life :o
I've never had a problem with my samsung...
how is the camera on an S5 and S6...and how is it on the apple equivalents?
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oh...the important decisions in life :o
I've never had a problem with my samsung...
how is the camera on an S5 and S6...and how is it on the apple equivalents?
Camerawise, they are different, you can't say one is better than the other. The S5/S6 have 16MP external cameras, and 5MP seflie cameras, while the iPhone 6S has an 8MP external camera.
But, the amount of MP (MegaPixels) don't really affect the everyday user because they aren't going to print it, or edit it very much. The only people who need to worry about MP are wedding photographers, or people who need to print various sizes of pictures, with great quality. Also, the thing that really matters for picture quality is the sensor. Phones nowadays have a 'camera bulge', that's because the designers are trying to fit the largest sensor they can into it.
Basically, all modern phone cameras are pretty good for things like random shoots, but nothing serious if you're going to be printing and selling or whatever.
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What kind of apps were you trying to run? These issues usually occur when someone tries to run a super new app on really old hardware. Or was this with a 'current' phone? I'm curious...what phone was it?
Just typical everyday stuff. Nothing ridiculously fancy, I don't recall names anymore because I got rid of those apps.
It was quite common with my Sony xperia so which I got rid of about 2 months ago.
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Budget?
If you just want any smart phone (and lets be honest, it'll do 99% things as well as any other phone), i recommend the moto G. Its an absolutely amazing package for the price. Camera is somewhat lacking but the rest is very good for the budget. It was engineered after google bought motorola (they since sold it again but its mostly the same still).
I bought it because i didn't want to spend $500+ on a smart phone. It seems to do absolutely everything as well as my friends $900 phone for instance. Quad core processors and 4gb of ram is absolute overkill for what your phone will normally be doing, sounds impressive but not at all necessary.
You can probably pick up a moto G for $250-$350 depending how suss you want to get (buy it overseas - warranty issues but cheaper, buy it from kogan - still some issues, buy it online, buy it from a store, etc).
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I know this thread is more or less dead.
I highly recommend stock android phones (nexus or moto) because they will get support from Google or Motorola, better UI(subjective) and will stay smooth for much longer than other OEM skins.
Phones such as Nexus 5X ($419 for 32 GB) or Moto G($229) are cheap and do almost everything right such as great camera, ui, speed and display.
If you have the money, Galaxy Note 7 or S7 or even the iPhone 7 may be better suited for you.
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Look, there really is no need to change phone operating systems unless you absolutely have to.
iOS vs Android:
- More secure vs less secure (only less secure if you change settings or "root" your phone and don't know how to handle your new found power)
- Less customisation vs more customisation
- Simple vs not so simple (to operate, find things)
- New operating system vs your current operating system (you're used to Android already, why change?)
I made the move to Android (Samsung Galaxy S5) a year or so ago from an iPhone 4s and it was legitimately the best thing i've ever done. Given my background, I like to mess around with things and open up the backend of the phone software (e.g. root access, legal but will void any warranty you have with your manufacturer) and therefore Android is a perfect environment for me.
With what you've said in mind, I think you should stay with an Android phone given that you've already had first hand experience with this operating system (so you've already passed the biggest hurdle that phone users who move encounter).
What type of Samsung is your phone? The S6 has dropped price by around $300 since it was released last year, so i'd look into that. If you really want a pure Android experience (e.g. no apps that the manufacturer installs by default that you can't forcibly remove), then look into the Nexus line by Google. There are also a few other manufacturers that aren't Australia based that offer cheap Android varieties, but you'd have to look into them further (e.g. OnePlus, Saygus, Oppo, Xiaomi).
Did you delete all the bloatware after your root?
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Did you delete all the bloatware after your root?
You can, but I just replaced the entire operating system with Cyanogenmod. Pretty much stock in itself + Android 6.0.1.
Samsung's hardware is reliable (at least for the earlier models :P) , but the software is disgusting (as someone who is in IT). Hence why my S5 runs with CM13 now. :)