Post by: upandgo on June 07, 2016, 02:03:19 pm
the writing section was a breeze but the multiple choice... i think i died after that napolean map question
Post by: MightyBeh on June 07, 2016, 02:13:31 pm
now that the GAT's done, how does everyone think they went? :)I got really excited when I saw the infographic because there was a numberphile video about it a while back. Otherwise I probably would have hated it ;)
the writing section was a breeze but the multiple choice... i think i died after that napolean map question
Post by: HasibA on June 07, 2016, 02:43:33 pm
hahah that napolean q was horribleeee ahah
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on June 07, 2016, 02:52:19 pm
now that the GAT's done, how does everyone think they went? :)
the writing section was a breeze but the multiple choice... i think i died after that napolean map question
I still don't really get the Napoleon question.
The entire time I was doing that question I was just like: Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!
Writing Task 1 this year was interesting. Couldn't work in the King Tut thing into my essay, everything else I attempted to sorta chuck in (minus a few tid bits).
Writing task 2 was meh. Think I rambled on for 3 and a bit pages for Writing Task 2 and it was quite obvious that I ran outta stuff to say on that last page but had to find a way to tie it all up nicely. Think I ended on some whacko "work gives you purpose but sometimes it's at too great a cost" statement that was basically code for "I have no idea what I'm saying anymore, please give me marks".
Favourite question was the quirky algebra pentagon, love heart, triangle thing.
Yeh. MC seemed harder this year tho.
(Looking at you Napoleon)
Post by: tashhhaaa on June 07, 2016, 03:02:33 pm
Post by: upandgo on June 07, 2016, 03:08:07 pm
was there really a Kanye question lol?
yep first MC question :P i think that one was the most enjoyable to answer
Post by: NerdyPi on June 07, 2016, 03:10:09 pm
Post by: Swagadaktal on June 07, 2016, 03:29:48 pm
I think umat practice has enabled me to feel like the questions were easier this year.
Did anyone manage to include Shannon noll? I wrote as a past student speaking to a new set of year 12s and was like "i did year 12 back in 2003 when shannon noll was robbed of his australian idol title"
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on June 07, 2016, 03:48:28 pm
Post by: heids on June 07, 2016, 03:52:26 pm
I completely forgot about the GATchphrase. O.o
:o
never speaking to you again, HLS
get thee hence, foul traitor
Post by: The Usual Student on June 07, 2016, 03:57:22 pm
but I don't do english and I had no idea that we could write a piece INSPIRED by the topics for piece 2, lololololololol
I ended up writing about extremely general topics that they gave :P
Post by: JellyBeanz on June 07, 2016, 04:35:44 pm
I still don't really get the Napoleon question.
The entire time I was doing that question I was just like: Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!
Writing Task 1 this year was interesting. Couldn't work in the King Tut thing into my essay, everything else I attempted to sorta chuck in (minus a few tid bits).
Writing task 2 was meh. Think I rambled on for 3 and a bit pages for Writing Task 2 and it was quite obvious that I ran outta stuff to say on that last page but had to find a way to tie it all up nicely. Think I ended on some whacko "work gives you purpose but sometimes it's at too great a cost" statement that was basically code for "I have no idea what I'm saying anymore, please give me marks".
Favourite question was the quirky algebra pentagon, love heart, triangle thing.
Yeh. MC seemed harder this year tho.
(Looking at you Napoleon)
Yeah the algebra pentagon question was so easy haha. Most of the maths questions i found were pretty easy, don't get me started on the napoleon thing though XD. I'm astounded at how much information they managed to squeeze into the infographic.
Post by: Elizawei on June 07, 2016, 05:55:57 pm
Post by: ayesha2011t on June 07, 2016, 06:06:16 pm
Favourite question was the quirky algebra pentagon, love heart, triangle thing.
What did you get for the algebra question?
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on June 07, 2016, 06:18:47 pm
What about you?
Post by: HasibA on June 07, 2016, 06:20:58 pm
my maths/science/tech score will be very low this year *sigh*
Post by: Aaron on June 07, 2016, 06:29:18 pm
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on June 07, 2016, 06:41:10 pm
everyone found that pentagon algebra q easy, but the napolean q hard and here i am thinking the napolean q was easy and the algebra q was hard (i kinda was rushed for time omg -.-)
my maths/science/tech score will be very low this year *sigh*
WHAT'S THE ANSWER FOR THE NAPOLEON QUESTION?
I swear I'm gonna have nightmares about those four questions tonight...
Post by: Elizawei on June 07, 2016, 06:49:39 pm
Post by: HasibA on June 07, 2016, 06:51:51 pm
WHAT'S THE ANSWER FOR THE NAPOLEON QUESTION?i dont remember correctly, but i remember one bit where it asked for where the army's numbers got reduced the most and i said july or something, and my teacher (who is pretty good at these type of q's) said its correct. I also said for another bit that the weather was a compounding factor for the reduced numbers. Also said they lost! idk maybe im wrong completely HAHAH
I swear I'm gonna have nightmares about those four questions tonight...
bloody pentagon q wasn't that hard, but i left it until the last 3 mins and had to guess because i couldn't think properly -.-.-
Post by: Adequace on June 07, 2016, 06:53:28 pm
Post by: JellyBeanz on June 07, 2016, 07:17:05 pm
i dont remember correctly, but i remember one bit where it asked for where the army's numbers got reduced the most and i said july or something, and my teacher (who is pretty good at these type of q's) said its correct. I also said for another bit that the weather was a compounding factor for the reduced numbers. Also said they lost! idk maybe im wrong completely HAHAH
bloody pentagon q wasn't that hard, but i left it until the last 3 mins and had to guess because i couldn't think properly -.-.-
yeah i think i wrote weather was a compounding factor because on the route back, the numbers were decreased massively. i'm still not even sure then
Post by: K888 on June 07, 2016, 07:23:48 pm
Man, I was happy to finally get something to do with history. Didn't mind that Napoleon question tbh, was one of the better ones (behind that triangle and love heart algebra stuff of course haha) I thought.
Would have loved it to be about Russia in the 20th century - one of my strong areas after doing Revs last year
Anyone else have really grumpy assessors? I'd be smiling if I got paid to come supervise kids doing an exam...
Post by: upandgo on June 07, 2016, 07:27:03 pm
Post by: JellyBeanz on June 07, 2016, 07:33:08 pm
ahh did anyone get that question with the numbers and the switches? cant remember it exactly but it involved some code with 110001110101 or something... i swear i spent 5 mins working that out :'(
which one specifically haha
Post by: ayesha2011t on June 07, 2016, 07:33:42 pm
ahh did anyone get that question with the numbers and the switches? cant remember it exactly but it involved some code with 110001110101 or something... i swear i spent 5 mins working that out :'(
Looking at that gave me a headache
Post by: MightyBeh on June 07, 2016, 07:36:19 pm
Anyone else have really grumpy assessors? I'd be smiling if I got paid to come supervise kids doing an exam...Mine sounded grumpy while talking to us as a group but they were all actually really chill. One of them even told me to have a nice day while I walked out, 10/10 service. Too bad the GAT's not on Amazon or I'd give them a killer review ::)
Compared to last year I thought it was pretty comfortable in terms of difficulty, but maybe I just got gud since then. Anyone have favourite questions? I thought the question about Picasso's interpretation of Valquez' self-insertion (69 for the curious ;)) was pretty funny just because one of the choices was 'he is the most recognisable figure in the painting'. ::)
Post by: ayesha2011t on June 07, 2016, 07:39:39 pm
Post by: Swagadaktal on June 07, 2016, 07:41:23 pm
ahh did anyone get that question with the numbers and the switches? cant remember it exactly but it involved some code with 110001110101 or something... i swear i spent 5 mins working that out :'(:O what were you working out ?
That quesion you just had to compare them to others - you didn't have to work anything out or write any combinations. I just looked at the 0s and compared them which gave me an answer (which i hope is correct) - the rest of it i didnt even look at.
Post by: upandgo on June 07, 2016, 07:58:46 pm
:O what were you working out ?
That quesion you just had to compare them to others - you didn't have to work anything out or write any combinations. I just looked at the 0s and compared them which gave me an answer (which i hope is correct) - the rest of it i didnt even look at.
didnt we?? ah i thought one of them did, im probably mistaking it for another question ::)
my fave was probably that english one with the extract of that guy who's on a date with angie and he quotes the political opinion of some guy to please angie but it goes wrong (idk why i found that amusing), and also writing task 1, in which i weaved together a nonsensical diary entry from a girl in hospital because her olfactory nerves got destroyed in an accident (is that even possible lol)
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on June 07, 2016, 08:24:36 pm
yeah i think i wrote weather was a compounding factor because on the route back, the numbers were decreased massively. i'm still not even sure then
Me too. I said compounding factor as well. I couldn't figure out if he won or lost; does it count as winning if you come back with like 10 000 troops but started with a hell of a lot more?
Numbers and switches was fun. Got it well enough.
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My favourite question was the one with different species of plants
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Anyone else have really grumpy assessors? I'd be smiling if I got paid to come supervise kids doing an exam...
Our assessors are so scary it's not even funny. They're like Snape-level scary, only without the feel-good backstory at the end that makes everyone instantly like them. A few of them used to be subs at our school and there are like horror stories of when one of them threw a fit at a bunch of kids and made them all stand outside in the blistering cold while she stormed off and threw a tantrum to a year level coordinator about their being "too loud". O.o
Post by: exit on June 07, 2016, 09:05:27 pm
I'm pretty sure i said stalemate.
I noticed like in the good ol days, there was always a 'fancy' word option which seems to almost always or always be incorrect.
The binary question mentioned earlier was quite easy, just time consuming but some other the other questions were even worse. Didn't help I couldn't pay attention in the first half of the gat.
Post by: JellyBeanz on June 07, 2016, 09:07:40 pm
Lmao what did the spanish word mean?
I'm pretty sure i said stalemate.
I noticed like in the good ol days, there was always a 'fancy' word option which seems to almost always or always be incorrect.
The binary question mentioned earlier was quite easy, just time consuming but some other the other questions were even worse. Didn't help I couldn't pay attention in the first half of the gat.
I think it was french an i said it meant disaster haha.
Post by: JO101 on June 07, 2016, 09:33:44 pm
Post by: Adequace on June 07, 2016, 09:39:42 pm
I think it was french an i said it meant disaster haha.Same, I think it was 'Benzizna' or 'Benzena'. I only remember because it sounded really familiar to the French soccer/football player 'Benzema' lmao.
Post by: JO101 on June 07, 2016, 09:40:39 pm
Hi all lets discuss what we got for the 70 MCQs!
I got
1. D
2. D
3. B
4. C
5. C
6. B
7. A
8. D
9. C
10. A
11. C
12.C
13. C
14. A
15. B
16. B
17. C
18.C
19. D
20. D
21 C
22. A
23. D
24. B
25. B
26. B
27. B
28. B
29. D
30. C
31. D
32. B
33. B
34. B
35. B
36. A
37. B
38. A
39. B
40. C
41. D
42. D
43. B
44. C
45. C
46. A
47. D
48. C
49. A
50. B
51. D
52. C
53. B
54. C
55. B
56. C
57. C
58. B
59. B
60. B
61. B
62. A
63. D
64. C
65. D
66. D
67. B
68. B
69. B
70. D
These I what I circled, most of which I guessed
Moderator action: merged topics, less GAT topics the better...
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on June 07, 2016, 09:44:03 pm
Lmao what did the spanish word mean?
What spanish word? What question is this from?
Post by: JellyBeanz on June 07, 2016, 09:48:36 pm
What spanish word? What question is this from?
I think he was referring to the napoleon question can't recall, the river's name.
But it was french, i think.
Post by: exit on June 07, 2016, 09:52:33 pm
They beat the Russians but they ended up losing all their troops and ended up with like 1k of 200k lol
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on June 07, 2016, 10:00:45 pm
Yeah. It's French.
Think it means disastrous. From inference and from the fact that my mother knows French well enough and she told me that there's some weird saying (insert fancy french saying I only half picked up here) that basically means that something's a disaster. She could be wrong though because she hasn't had cause to use her French in a very long time.
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on June 07, 2016, 10:12:10 pm
1. A
2. D
3. C
4. C
5. C
6. B
7. A
8. A
9. D
10. D
11. C
12. D
13. A
14. C
15. C
16. C
17. B
18. C
19. A
20. D
21. B
22. A
23. D
24. D
25. B
26. C
27. C
28. D
29. D
30. A
31. A
32. D
33. A
34. A
35. B
I can only remember my answers for the first half (soz to the person requesting our answers to compare with); my retentive memory is good but it's not that good, esp. considering the fact that I can't remember where I put my copy of the GAT. I can only picture the first half of the MC bubbles I filled in; after that my memory of the GAT isn't reliable enough for me to be able to definitively tell you what I circled.
Post by: Swagadaktal on June 07, 2016, 10:12:46 pm
I assumed coz his name is so well known that he was pre successful.
and was like i aint doing any hums so ceebs with spending time on this q (that infographic was so annoying to read)
And the scale wasnt consistent. Like 450k people fit was like 4 cm wide and 50k was 3cm wide? Bich where the other 400k people go in that cm?
Post by: Glasses on June 07, 2016, 10:26:00 pm
I also woke up really sick yesterday (and was sick today), so I was given a separate room, permission to take medication, a bucket and rest breaks while I was completing the GAT. Unfortunately, the medication (painkillers) I was prescribed (and which I took in the GAT) made me really drowsy and sick in the stomach, and I ended up lying on the floor of the room I was in for about 20 minutes, so let's just say that I better sit my exams :')
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on June 07, 2016, 10:30:17 pm
Post by: Swagadaktal on June 07, 2016, 10:39:15 pm
I spent nearly two hours on the writing tasks (whoops...), then answered the humanities/arts questions and kinda guessed the maths questions. I figured that since two out of four of my subjects would be based on the writing tasks, I'd be better off putting most of my time and effort into those (and the humanities questions when I finished the writing tasks). Maths really isn't my forte (as you might be able to guess from my subjects).Hey I hope you feel better!
I also woke up really sick yesterday (and was sick today), so I was given a separate room, permission to take medication, a bucket and rest breaks while I was completing the GAT. Unfortunately, the medication (painkillers) I was prescribed (and which I took in the GAT) made me really drowsy and sick in the stomach, and I ended up lying on the floor of the room I was in for about 20 minutes, so let's just say that I better sit my exams :')
Not sure if it's appropriate to ask this but what is it like being sick with a vcaa examination? By a separate room did you have someone staring at you the whole time? And did you get extra time? Soz just curious.
Post by: Glasses on June 07, 2016, 10:52:54 pm
And I don't mind at all!
When you have a 'rest break', you flip the question and answer booklets over on the table, and are able to walk around, lie down or get some fresh air if you need to (with the supervision of a VCAA person). With the separate room, I was in the room with an examiner for the duration of the exam, but they were really nice and a bit more casual about the whole thing than when I completed my exams with everyone else last year. Like, they still read out all of the stuff they have to, but before reading it out she said to me 'sorry, I just have to read this out, but I know you won't be trying to cheat', and she knew my name.
Also, I was given additional time (after 1:15) to make up for the time I spent in the rest break, but you're not able to keep working or look at the paper while having a rest break.
I actually already had the conditions (i.e. - permission to take a particular medication, rest breaks and a separate room) (excluding the bucket) before I was sick (for other reasons), and for my end-of-year exams, but it was quite coincidental that I was physically ill as well.
To get the conditions (and permission to take the additional medication I was prescribed today, alongside the one I was already permitted to have), I had to get evidence from specialist(s), and a letter from the doctor I saw this morning.
Edit 1: Typo.
Edit 2: Another typo.
Post by: ayesha2011t on June 08, 2016, 10:28:08 pm
I think I just messed up, real bad...
Post by: Swagadaktal on June 08, 2016, 10:30:45 pm
For the first writing task, you know how you are NOT supposed to present an argument, well I'm a bit confused. For eg: if one took the persona of a specialist speaking to students and telling them how taking care of noses is important, are they presenting the facts and figures from the prompt as arguments?tbh i didnt know you could adopt a persona. I just wrote the stuff summarising it and linking different ideas together. I thought that is what the task asked for :O.
I think I messed up, real bad...
My one seems pretty bland in comparison tbh
Post by: The Usual Student on June 08, 2016, 10:32:43 pm
For the first writing task, you know how you are NOT supposed to present an argument, well I'm a bit confused. For eg: if one took the persona of a specialist speaking to students and telling them how taking care of noses is important, are they presenting the facts and figures from the prompt as arguments?
I think I just messed up, real bad...
yeah that is fine,
As long as you didn't have a contention and you didn't attempt to prove or push that intention.
I personally just wrote about the ability to smell from a biological, economic and sociological perspective.
Post by: pi on June 08, 2016, 10:36:59 pm
For the first writing task, you know how you are NOT supposed to present an argument, well I'm a bit confused. For eg: if one took the persona of a specialist speaking to students and telling them how taking care of noses is important, are they presenting the facts and figures from the prompt as arguments?
I think I just messed up, real bad...
When I was in year 12 I wrote an episode of "Coxy's Big Break" (it's some crappy day-time TV show). I got through Year 12. You'll be fine :)
Post by: ayesha2011t on June 08, 2016, 10:38:30 pm
yeah that is fine,
As long as you didn't have a contention and you didn't attempt to prove or push that intention.
I personally just wrote about the ability to smell from a biological, economic and sociological perspective.
If I spoke about how the nose should be looked after, would that kind of be my contention?
Idk man, I'm so confused rn
Post by: ayesha2011t on June 08, 2016, 10:41:16 pm
When I was in year 12 I wrote an episode of "Coxy's Big Break" (it's some crappy day-time TV show). I got through Year 12. You'll be fine :)
I wish I was that confident, I'm such a nervous wreck. I literally stayed in the hall till the very last minute for the exam, for no particular reason other then the 'what if' concepts going on in my brain.
Post by: IndefatigableLover on June 08, 2016, 10:54:22 pm
tbh i didnt know you could adopt a persona. I just wrote the stuff summarising it and linking different ideas together. I thought that is what the task asked for :O.Don't worry if it's bland since you probably utilised the material in the right way (plus you'll probably make up for it in your actual English exam anyway).
My one seems pretty bland in comparison tbh
From a personal point of view, in Year 11 I took on the persona of Ron Weasley channelling his inner Magnus Carlson repeating facts from the booklet to "present the info" (strong imagination I know LOL) and did alright but in Year 12 I just took the bland approach and made sure everything flowed and gelled together and got a pretty awesome English GAT score LOL
But in the end, the GAT is a bit a good banter to have before Unit 4/Exams begin xD
Post by: Swagadaktal on June 08, 2016, 11:12:49 pm
I wish I was that confident, I'm such a nervous wreck. I literally stayed in the hall till the very last minute for the exam, for no particular reason other then the 'what if' concepts going on in my brain.It's that thoroughness which will lead you to a comprehensive understanding of your subjects.
I think it's something that's universal to all high achieving students - that "what if" because they've seen enough to know that there is in fact a "what if."
You'll need to tame that during the end of year exams - build up your confidence in practice exams and so on. But until then, cherish it because it could accessorise your success :)
and the gat is meaningless to reflect on (tbh i think its useless in total but i'll stick with reflect on for now) - coz by thinking about it you're not actually learning anything that's going to improve your VCE education. Unlike school sacs where the content will be relevant once again, stuff here wont be.
So try not to think about it anymore, coz there's honestly no point. Like 0 point.
Post by: ayesha2011t on June 08, 2016, 11:18:51 pm
It's that thoroughness which will lead you to a comprehensive understanding of your subjects.
I think it's something that's universal to all high achieving students - that "what if" because they've seen enough to know that there is in fact a "what if."
You'll need to tame that during the end of year exams - build up your confidence in practice exams and so on. But until then, cherish it because it could accessorise your success :)
and the gat is meaningless to reflect on (tbh i think its useless in total but i'll stick with reflect on for now) - coz by thinking about it you're not actually learning anything that's going to improve your VCE education. Unlike school sacs where the content will be relevant once again, stuff here wont be.
So try not to think about it anymore, coz there's honestly no point. Like 0 point.
Yeah true, gonna be tough but I'll try my best.
Post by: Glasses on June 09, 2016, 01:00:06 am
Out of all the thing I miss from High school, the GAT is certainly not one of them ::)
I personally feel that it's completely worth it for all of the banter and memes that result from it :')
Post by: MightyBeh on June 09, 2016, 06:54:51 am
I personally feel that it's completely worth it for all of the banter and memes that result from it :')#KanyeBestRockstar2016 8)
Post by: FGKYpls on June 09, 2016, 05:13:44 pm
From memory, I think I got C's for all of those pentagon triangle heart questions. I think. I misplaced my copy of the GAT paper so I can't tell you for sure. :P
What about you?
I think I did too, but I'm not sure.
Post by: Swagadaktal on June 09, 2016, 06:25:54 pm
I definitely worth the three hours were worth the memes I saw after. Like being 100% serious here they're so funny omg
Post by: Glasses on June 13, 2016, 11:08:53 pm
#KanyeBestRockstar2016 8)
When I saw Kanye I actually started chuckling and had to cover my mouth. But really, who thought a comprehension task on Kanye would be a good idea? :')
Post by: Swagadaktal on June 13, 2016, 11:43:30 pm
When I saw Kanye I actually started chucking and had to cover my mouth. But really, who thought a comprehension task on Kanye would be a good idea? :')To be honest I genuinely enjoyed reading the two points of view. I applaud VCAA for putting this in (o my God what has this year amounted to wtf I cant be thanking the very same institution which has inflicted such pain and misery upon our helpless souls)