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Title: Do teachers check if your quotes are real?
Post by: vincentso69 on October 11, 2016, 05:18:17 pm
I heard that if a teacher marks a text that they don't know, they pass it on to someone who does.
As a last resort, i might have to make up quotes for my related, which hopefully teachers don't know.
how risky is this?
Title: Re: Do teachers check if your quotes are real?
Post by: sudodds on October 11, 2016, 05:46:55 pm
I heard that if a teacher marks a text that they don't know, they pass it on to someone who does.
As a last resort, i might have to make up quotes for my related, which hopefully teachers don't know.
how risky is this?
If its for the related I think you'll probably get away with it, as long as the quote still makes sense in relation to the themes and issues within your ORT just in case the teacher has seen it before. I don't know for sure though, but assuming you'd probably be fine, as long as it was only one quote.
Title: Re: Do teachers check if your quotes are real?
Post by: studybuddy7777 on October 11, 2016, 05:53:28 pm
I heard that if a teacher marks a text that they don't know, they pass it on to someone who does.
As a last resort, i might have to make up quotes for my related, which hopefully teachers don't know.
how risky is this?

Be very careful doing this. Make sure you at least have a read of the text to see how language is used.

This will stand out like ever: "Desdemona was killed in her sleep by her husband suffocating her" (Othello, Shakespeare)
— Obviously you won't be this obvious but please make sure you use the language right. No point using American language to quote Charles Dickens or Enid Blyton. They are British. If you do something like this, you will get found out and penalised.

Like I always say, the HSC is a game. You gotta make sure you play it right and dont get caught :D
Title: Re: Do teachers check if your quotes are real?
Post by: jakesilove on October 11, 2016, 06:27:36 pm
I heard that if a teacher marks a text that they don't know, they pass it on to someone who does.
As a last resort, i might have to make up quotes for my related, which hopefully teachers don't know.
how risky is this?

Basically, use this as an absolute last resort, if ever. Even if there was a 5% chance of markers checking your quotes, that means there's a 5% chance you'll get a shit mark because the marker knows you're making it up. Is that really worth the risk?
Title: Re: Do teachers check if your quotes are real?
Post by: jamonwindeyer on October 11, 2016, 09:33:42 pm
Basically, use this as an absolute last resort, if ever. Even if there was a 5% chance of markers checking your quotes, that means there's a 5% chance you'll get a shit mark because the marker knows you're making it up. Is that really worth the risk?

And to extend this, once they've caught you once, all your credibility is out the window for that essay. You won't get marked down just in the ORT sections, your whole essay suffers. Don't lie on your papers people!
Title: Re: Do teachers check if your quotes are real?
Post by: RuiAce on October 11, 2016, 09:41:51 pm
It's funny cause the guy who came equal first in English actually made a fake quote for one of his T. S. Eliot poems.

But he was gambling on the fact that OUR teachers probably didn't check it. This was in the trials...

When you're up against BOSTES things are different.
Title: Re: Do teachers check if your quotes are real?
Post by: elysepopplewell on October 11, 2016, 09:56:07 pm
Putting it out there: teachers are marking at home and not in a marking centre where they can lean across and say to a colleague, "Hey, have you heard of this quote?" In other subjects still marked in a centre, you're likely to have your paper spoken about amongst markers (or so my SOR teacher and modern teacher told me).

I agree with Jamon and Jake :)
Title: Re: Do teachers check if your quotes are real?
Post by: vincentso69 on October 11, 2016, 10:29:42 pm
Ouch, that sounds real painful if they find out.

what if you made like a smalll error in your quote, they shouldn't mark you down right
Title: Re: Do teachers check if your quotes are real?
Post by: brenden on October 11, 2016, 10:32:26 pm
Ouch, that sounds real painful if they find out.

what if you made like a smalll error in your quote, they shouldn't mark you down right
Small errors are fine :)
Title: Re: Do teachers check if your quotes are real?
Post by: elysepopplewell on October 12, 2016, 09:54:43 am
Ouch, that sounds real painful if they find out.

what if you made like a smalll error in your quote, they shouldn't mark you down right

In my opinion (for SOR as well) - it's better to misquote than to not quote at all.
Title: Re: Do teachers check if your quotes are real?
Post by: jamonwindeyer on October 12, 2016, 11:30:03 am
In my opinion (for SOR as well) - it's better to misquote than to not quote at all.

"To be or not to be. That is the statement."
Title: Re: Do teachers check if your quotes are real?
Post by: studybuddy7777 on October 12, 2016, 11:36:19 am
"To be or not to be. That is the statement."

Oh you have just triggered my OCD!!! Hahaha, well played.
It makes more sense though saying statement, not question though.