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Title: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: brenden on October 26, 2016, 11:36:59 am
Hey everyone! This thread if for discussing the Language Analysis. If you want to get involved with the discussion, then what are your answers to THESE 5 questions?

The Big 5 Questions.

1. Easy, normal, or hard - how difficult did you feel like Language Analysis was this year?
2. What are some of the main things you discussed in your essay?
3. What did you say about the image?
4. How do you feel like you went?
5. Are you fucking glad it's over?

My Breakdown of the Exam

Personally, I felt like it was an interesting exam. On one hand, I feel like the language is pretty easy to analyse - however, it's comparative, with three distinct pieces to analyse (including the image), so I wouldn't necessarily call it an "easy" VCAA exam, but I wouldn't call it hard, either. Overall I'd rate it as a "normal" difficult level, but I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on this given you were the one in the exam room! The length was fair, and the structure of the first article will likely be accessible to most students  - with four distinct paragraphs in the first article, all with a relatively distinct use of language.

Before I talk more about Section C, though, I just want to say that the English Exam is over and you should feel very fucking relieved. A lot of people will feel like they screwed up the exam however, you really can't know. Personally, I didn't finish my Language Analysis OR my Section B piece, and I thought that I would not perform very well because there were many things wrong with my essays. For example, one of my Language Analysis paragraphs was 450 words long, compared to my third paragraph which was only 150 words long!! I ended up scoring well into the 40s for English, so just keep your chin up. You could still do well. But that's not the point. Even if you did shit, you can't change it and it doesn't matter anymore - it's time to keep your head up and move forward to your next exams. As the great Rocky Balboa once said - "it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward!"

If you got hit today, then just keep moving forward.

Background Information

The background information to this article is pretty helpful. It says,
Quote
Lawton is a town of 3000 people. It used to be on a major highway. However, a recent highway diversion has isolated the town, causing a sharp drop in the number of visitors. This has caused concern for the economic future of the town. There is a range of ideas within the community about how to address the problem

The last sentence here hints pretty heavily at a comparative Language Analysis and tells students the contentions will be different. The second last sentence hints that the audience is likely to be concerned, scared, worried and whatever other word you can think of, about their livelihoods and economic security. All in all, a pretty basic "Background Information" box - nothing too secretive, just a normal bit of context.

Article 1 - Alexandra Wiley

I felt like this was pretty accessible to most students. The way I see it, there were four distinct paragraphs.

Paragraph 1
The opening essentially just shows the audience that "I am one of you!" - Wiley is trying to buddy up to the audience by showing she shares the culture of Lawton, talking about the pleasantries of crossing the street for a chat.

Halfway through the paragraph she switches tone and says "but there is a downside to this", and starts to strike a little bit of fear into the audience. The general 'aim' of the first paragraph is to get the audience to agree that, yes, we need a more tourist-based town. If she achieves this aim, then all she has left to do is talk about HOW to achieve a tourist-based town. 

The most interesting thing about Paragraph 1 is the "double" nature of the paragraph - starting off nice, then changing ever so slightly in the second half.

Paragraph 2
The second paragraph takes a pretty excited optimistic tone. She's trying to suck the audience into her own enthusiasm - being so enthusiastic that the enthusiasm can't help but infect other people (in this case, the audience). That's the sort of vibe I get from the second paragraph.

This is centred around her idea of "thinking on a grand scale". There's a lot of pride and positive language in this paragraph that's "selling" the idea of some "grand" change in the town. Pride and inclusivity -> "we grow the most succulent fruit".

She uses the word "imagine" twice - clearly trying to evoke some hope, wonder about the future. And of course, this paragraph is the one where she introduces the idea of a giant monument, so she's hoping to grow an association between the positivity and wonder, and the monument itself.

Paragraph 3
A nice little rebuttal here. She concedes that she doesn't yet have the final concept - and this could actually sound reasonable to the townsfolk. She isn't trying to pull a Tony Abbott and make a "Captain's Call". Instead, she's being pretty reasonable and 'thinking' about the plan to add a monument before she goes of and decides what a monument is. This concession is intended to make her look reasonable and consultative.

And at the same time, she tries to discredit those against her, who are talking shit on the monument without even knowing what it would be.

She slips some statistics in there ofc that appeal to the hip pocket nerve and the $$ side of the town. There's more inclusive language, "We deserve a share of that prosperity". She actually excludes the town with use of hte inclusive language - they are 'included' together, but together, they are separated from all the other cool towns who are raking in the cash!!!!!!

She's trying to make the audience indignant, to get them to sook a little bit, put a big frown on their face and whine, "WEEE WANT A MONUMENT TOOO, IT'S NOT FAIIIIR!"

This paragraph has a slightly different tone again. The second paragraph was positive, this one is a little bit more critical. Critical of her naysayers, and *almost* critical of the town's situation of not sharing in the prosperity of giant tourist attractions.

Paragraph 4
"Protect our lifestyle", "Australian lifestyle" -- significant stuff there. Protect is a pretty good word, trying to get the audience to feel defensive - which follows on from the feelings of "it's unfair". She appeals to patriotism and to the Aussie ideal of mateship, talking about "looking after" each other. Farmers, nurses, jobs - sounds  like a politician, doesn't she?

Basically, in this paragraph, she comes home hard with some more 'intense' techniques, trying to close her case.

All in all, there's a lot to talk about in this piece, and I feel like it's accessible to students who are looking for average scores as well as offering something to students who want the high scores, too.

Article 2- Ian Warwick

President of the 'Lawton Progress Association'. Interesting.

A pretty straightforward piece. He's clearly against the Mayor's proposition, despite "sharing her concern". He uses some pretty pompous (but strong) language throughout, such as "destroying [the town's] beauty", "pursuit of beauty", "defaced by vandals", "quality of ideas". It sort of positions him, and those who agree with him, as "above" the mere trifles of giant watermelons.

He also directly get's a 'zinger' in on the Mayor, saying the world as too many selfie opportunities. This type of ridicule supports the idea of him putting his idea "above" the populist one. It derides the opposition and positions the audience to want to join him - everyone would prefer to be the cool kids doing the humiliating rather than the lonely kids getting humiliated. That's the type of situation that Warwick's trying to create with his language here.

He's basically using negative language to paint the thing as a disaster. "Overrun" connotes an invasion on the rural culture of the town, "defaced by vandals" also implies that their town is too good, too refined, too classy for vandalism but that would change. These words (words associated with the monument) are contrasted with phrases like "art gallery", "literary week" - things far more high-brow and sophisticated.

Basically, so long as you said that Warwick thinks it's a shit idea to build a monument, you probably got some points for this piece :P

The Image

PLOT TWIST - YOU COULD SAY THE IMAGE SUPPORTED EITHER OF THE OTHER ARTICLES WAAAAAATTTTTTTT???

The most striking thing about the image this year is that it was almost presented as a third piece. Normally the image might be like, "the speaker included this image in their PowerPoint slide" or something like that, but this year, the caption was "The newspaper's cartoonist also contributed to the debate".

To frame the cartoonist as 'contributing to the debate' deliberately positions them as a third author, or as having their own contention. Normally, students aren't sort of told "HEY THE PERSON WHO MADE THE IMAGE HAS THEIR OWN CONTENTION". Instead, the image is sometimes just "there". But in this exam, it's in its own separate little box, presented as a third piece.

You could analyse it however you want, really, but I just thought it was interesting that the image was presented a bit differently this year.

As for the image itself, it has a few pretty interesting features. On the left of the image, you can see the highway that "bypasses" Lawton - it goes off into the hills. This is presumably the highway that was diverted to bypass the town. There's also another road running over that highway and circling around back into Lawton.

There's the gigantic watermelon right of centre, obviously, and to the left of the watermelon is the measly Church. Those with an eye for detail will notice that there are lots of people around the watermelon. There are many cars parked near the watermelon, a few cars driving to the watermelon, and if you look at the car in the bottom left hand corner of the image, the child and the reckless driver are staring out the window with exciting, looking forward to going to Lawton.

There are also a lot of fresh watermelons available - hinting at the economic prosperity the giant watermelon would bring. The sun is also shining - a nice symbol. The sign, bottom centre of the image, also claims Lawton is the "Home of the gian watermelon", essentially making the claim that the watermelon would indeed be a great tourist attraction.

HOWEVER the image can be read in two ways - depending on how you look at it. Let's check it out below:

If you look at the image from the perspective of someone AGREEING with Alexandra Wiley:
- The sun says it will be a good thing
- The excited faces of the people in the car say its a good thing
- The sign says it's a good thing
- The people around the watermelon says it's a good thing
- The Fresh Watermelons store says it's a good thing

However, you could say that the image might be pretty concerning to those AGAINST the watermelon. If people agree with Ian Warwick, the cartoon would be concerning because:

- The Church (a symbol of community and perhaps culture) is far overshadowed by the watermelon, which is impacting the town negatively (if you see it that way).
- There's a lot of people around, changing the landscape of the town.
- There are many children and cars in the image, supporting Warwick's point.

I feel like if you're not good at analysing images this one might have been a bit tough on many students, so I wouldn't beat yourself up about if it you didn't say much good stuff about the image. But whether you said the image supported Wiley or Warwick, you would get points either way, because it can support both arguments.

FAQ’s.

I didn’t finish/didn’t write a conclusion. Am I screwed?
Answer
Definitely not. Personally, I didn’t finish my exam either and still scored well into the forties. A friend of mine scored a 50 without finishing any of the three sections. We both went to a low-ranking public school. Ultimately, your mark is determined by how well what you did write hits the criteria.

I spelled an author's name wrong. Am I screwed?
Answer
No.

I didn’t mention the image. Am I screwed?
Answer
To be honest with you, it might have been beneficial if you had mentioned the image, but you definitely are not "screwed:. The criteria sheet says “analysis of ways in which language and visual features are used to present a point of view and to persuade readers”. If you didn't speak about the image, then you are not FULLY hitting this criteria, but you are still hitting it by talking about language features. You might have hit the criteria better if you had spoken about the image, but at the end of the day, you won't be penalised brutally just for forgetting the image - your essay will still be marked on its merits.

I didn’t  talk about the statistics/rhetorical question/patrotism/<any technique>. Am I screwed?
Answer
NO! It simply isn’t required to talk about absolutely every technique in the article. For all you know, your friend and yourself could both get 10/10 without mentioning any of the same things (although… that would be pretty improbable – but you get the idea!)
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: Gromekk on October 26, 2016, 12:50:13 pm
fak, some debate on the discussion space page about the cartoon. I wrote that it opposed the construction, what about you guys?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: mayonnaise on October 26, 2016, 12:52:49 pm
I did the same because I couldn't find much to talk about the other side  ;D

But I'm sure if it's been justified properly assessors would accept either interpretation
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on October 26, 2016, 12:53:41 pm
Opposed surely
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: purplegiraffe on October 26, 2016, 12:54:32 pm
fak, some debate on the discussion space page about the cartoon. I wrote that it opposed the construction, what about you guys?


I said that they thought that the idea was a little silly but everything still looked happy (no pollution, there's still trees etc.). So he didn't necessarily think it was a bad idea
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: brenden on October 26, 2016, 12:57:08 pm
I just modified the original post to talk about the image - it could be either way, and it's actually very crafty in that sense. It depends how you see it really. If you think Wiley has a point, the image is very positive. But if you think Warwick has a point, the image will scare you. Really interesting stuff!
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: tenn on October 26, 2016, 01:07:42 pm
Personally, I wrote that it agreed with Wiley (wrote about the masses of people, them flaunting their agricultural industry, the weather) and I didn't even see the subtle details associated with opposing him until after the exam.

Hope it doesn't screw up my mark  :o
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on October 26, 2016, 01:12:47 pm
I connected it to the whole "overrun by loud children and defaced by vandals" and the whole "large ugly installation" idea about the town being defined by their attraction and having it overshadow every other good thing about the town...

Also, I accidentally wrote that "accompanying the letter was a cartoon"... how fked am I?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: upandgo on October 26, 2016, 01:14:33 pm
in response to brenden's questions:

1. Easy, normal, or hard - how difficult did you feel like Language Analysis was this year?

i always contemplated the possibility of 2 articles and an image, so when i saw it in the exam i was quite excited lol, so id say it was fairly straightforward  :)

2. What are some of the main things you discussed in your essay?

can't remember exactly.. i think i dedicated 1pg to wiley communicating the downside, and another to her intended solution. and my third must've been about warwick

3. What did you say about the image?

i thought it was a good idea in the exam to formulate contentions for the image for both sides, so i incorporated it when analysing both wiley's and warwick's.. have no clue how thats gunna do down but oh well  :P

4. How do you feel like you went?

surprisingly positive but 12 hours from now i'll have realised i screwed up somewhere

5. Are you fucking glad it's over?

yes!!! no more agonising over the 3 hour end-of-year exam  8)


how did everyone else go?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: brenden on October 26, 2016, 01:15:59 pm
I connected it to the whole "overrun by loud children and defaced by vandals" and the whole "large ugly installation" idea about the town being defined by their attraction and having it overshadow every other good thing about the town...

Also, I accidentally wrote that "accompanying the letter was a cartoon"... how fked am I?
Not fucked at all, could still 10/10 :)
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on October 26, 2016, 01:22:48 pm
1. Easy, normal, or hard - how difficult did you feel like Language Analysis was this year?

I think it was fair.

No rhetorical questions. Which for me, is a good thing, because I swear I never see them anyway.

2. What are some of the main things you discussed in your essay?

1. The need for urgent action
2. The proposed attraction
3. Trust us, we'll get the job done... aggrandising the Council
4. The local newspaper + visual

3. What did you say about the image?

See previous comment.

4. How do you feel like you went?

Meh. I had some difficulty finding stuff to analyse in the Mayor's letter; spent too much time talking about implications. The only real "technique" that I named was the statistic which I argued was there to legitimise the Councillor's implication that the council knew what they were doing.

5. Are you fucking glad it's over?

YAS. So much so that I went to burn all my notes until my mother reminded me that...

a) Burning paper isn't good for the environment
b) I'm obliged to continue tradition and hand down all my notes to the next in my family to do VCE despite the fact that the course will have completely changed for the illustrative purpose of saying "look how much work she did! work harder!" -- I feel bad for my cousin already.
c) I pledged to donate scanned copies of half of my notes and sell the other half.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: sweetiepi on October 26, 2016, 01:34:40 pm
My 2¢ worth:

1. Easy, normal, or hard - how difficult did you feel like Language Analysis was this year?
In my opinion is was about normal in difficulty, compared to some of the ones I did for practice. :P

2. What are some of the main things you discussed in your essay?
I can't remember everything, but I remember I wrote a fair chunk of how Warwick was in opposition to the building of that giant statue thingy. :P

3. What did you say about the image?
I said something about how it ridiculed Wiley's argument, from memory. :)

4. How do you feel like you went?
Better than I thought I would!! :D

5. Are you fucking glad it's over?
You fking betcha! ;D
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: Kimahso on October 26, 2016, 01:40:27 pm
I stuffed up so bad. For some reason I thought we finished the exam at 12:00 so I spent 45 minutes on TR, 1 hour on context and 1 hour on LA. So as I was nearing the end of LA I thought I didn't have enough time to talk about the vandals and whatever so I only dedicated about 7 words to that. Didn't get to talk about how it elicits shock in the reader or whatever. Do you think that will have a huge impact on my score?

Asides from that though I though the piece was pretty fair and I did alright. I thought the visual was supposed to oppose Wiley's argument since it's kind of sad that the pride of their town would be a partially eaten watermelon statue, as opposed to all the cultural pursuits that Warwick goes on about.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 26, 2016, 01:44:45 pm
1. Easy, normal, or hard - how difficult did you feel like Language Analysis was this year?

Normal, although for my language analysis sac i had a similar structure  - with an isolated cartoon + two written pieces.

2. What are some of the main things you discussed in your essay?

Can't remember the specifics.

3. What did you say about the image?
I analysed both interpretations will I be marked down?

4. How do you feel like you went?

Happy with my performance. Although I skipped out on the conclusion initially then completed the other two essays and somehow had 5 spare minutes and fudged a conclusion.

5. Are you fucking glad it's over?

 ;D ;D :D :D

Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: emilyb4398888 on October 26, 2016, 01:54:14 pm
Guys so I couldn't remember whether Alexandra was a boys or girls name, and took it as a boys. But I am pretty sure it's more typically a female number, is this an issue???
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: Sine on October 26, 2016, 01:55:59 pm
Guys so I couldn't remember whether Alexandra was a boys or girls name, and took it as a boys. But I am pretty sure it's more typically a female number, is this an issue???
I don't think it really matters. If you were consistent throughout your essay there shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: emilyb4398888 on October 26, 2016, 02:06:08 pm
I didn't mention tone at all! I totally blanked about it and don't know if this means I am screwed!
I was happy with all my other analysis, but I forgot to include some really obvious things! (Like style etc)

Am I doomed to a shocking result?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: Robert243 on October 26, 2016, 02:08:14 pm
Can you still do well if you analysed a lot of the first article ,but didn't get up to the second one.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: emilyb4398888 on October 26, 2016, 02:14:03 pm
Can you still do well if you analysed a lot of the first article ,but didn't get up to the second one.

It's not exactly ideal, but the whole purpose of the task is to ANALYSE LANGUAGE. As long as you did that, your mark will be okay
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: RolyPolySpheal on October 26, 2016, 02:24:36 pm
1. Easy, normal, or hard - how difficult did you feel like Language Analysis was this year?
It was fairly average. I didn't quite plan properly and ran slightly over time on my LA (don't worry, I finished everything in the end), so my fourth body paragraph might kill me if my somewhat hodgepodge structure doesn't, but if I'd done what I intended to do in the first place (actually going by Wiley's body paragraphs and finishing with Warwick's), then maybe it could've been better. Oh well, I have no regrets - I did the best that I could in the circumstances I had.
2. What are some of the main things you discussed in your essay?
By the way, does the name "Warwick" have any significance? Or am I just reading into things too much?
3. What did you say about the image?
I used the fact it was below Warwick's letter to stick it in at one point (although that's not the best argument). Otherwise, I used it for contrast and to analyse how both sides did different things well so if you go down, @Sine, I'm going down with you. (I did analyse Wiley's letter mostly, though, because that's how the thing is laid out.)
4. How do you feel like you went?
I think I did alright...but "alright" for me normally is around the standard of a 30 SS, if not lower...
5. Are you glad it's over?
Of course. I'll never have to deal with another watermelon cartoon again...hopefully. Well, it's not as if my next exam (Biology) will have any watermelon cartoons, right?

@Kimahso, the watermelon wasn't partially eaten; it just had a slice taken out of it to show the inside.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: michael leahcim on October 26, 2016, 02:46:48 pm
Did anyone split their paragraphs like:

-->the community  --> emphasis on article 1 + image 1
-->Tourists; how each piece angled them --> all pieces
-->emphasis on article two; and their differing views on what makes the town; the identity of the town

My thoughts: I think I did well! But obviously, I think I'll just have to wait for the results. My friends didn't do some of the sections (like at all) so I'm worried my sac markings might change haha Honestly I was super calm, but I felt I could've prepared a lot more (only came into the exam having written like 2 and a half essays?). It was fair I reckon.

Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: omesha124 on October 26, 2016, 03:29:33 pm
That image really confused me, but I am glad to see that it could be in support of the two other texts.

I interpreted it as being supportive of Warwick's argument that the 'monstrosity' will be an eyesore - the huge sculpture blocks the sun and doesn't do much to help stimulate local business. I noted that the farmer's 'Fresh Watermelons' store was not attracting tourists, and that the watermelon 'landmark' only attracted very few visitors.

Halfway through though my analysis, I started freaking out and thought I was interpreting it wrong since the tourists in the car appeared excited. Overall, the town did look like a clustered mess - so I established that it was against the development of a '20 metre or higher' sculpture.

To be honest, I thought I would do better in section C. I also thought that the exam would be excruciatingly difficult (and weird, since it is the last exam for the study design), but overall it was decent and nothing too shocking.

Also, did anyone else do The Complete Maus for section A?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: alyssarusso1 on October 26, 2016, 03:49:39 pm
Do you need to get three 10s to be able to get a forty?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: moe4babylon on October 26, 2016, 03:49:58 pm
How about the sign that read pop. 3001. The towns population is said to be 300, so at the time I wrote that the cartoonist is encouraging the audience to laught at Alexandra's statistic the one were she says the tourism will increase by 20%.

Idk why but at the time it seemed like a good idea but now I realise population doesn't include tourists. What would be the real reason for writing 3001 and would I lose a lot for that?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: angrypotato1 on October 26, 2016, 03:50:57 pm

Also, did anyone else do The Complete Maus for section A?

Yep! Prompt 2 was bae. Everything I could ever hope for and more
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: angrypotato1 on October 26, 2016, 03:52:13 pm
Do you need to get three 10s to be able to get a forty?

Heavens no, closer to three 8s
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on October 26, 2016, 03:58:03 pm
Were we supposed to treat the image as a third piece effectively? I don't think I talked enough about it...  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: deshi_C on October 26, 2016, 04:01:07 pm
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I'M SO HAPPY ITS OVERRRRRR!!!!!!

1. Easy, normal, or hard - how difficult did you feel like Language Analysis was this year?
I found the language analysis easy. I reckon that was my best section

2. What are some of the main things you discussed in your essay?
Mayor is pretty influential on residents
Warwick hates everyone
The image supports the mayor

3. What did you say about the image?
Pretty much how the landmark will affect the people. More tourists mainly (from image)

4. How do you feel like you went?
Overall, not too shabby
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: deejay9 on October 26, 2016, 04:01:24 pm
How about the sign that read pop. 3001. The towns population is said to be 300, so at the time I wrote that the cartoonist is encouraging the audience to laught at Alexandra's statistic the one were she says the tourism will increase by 20%.

Idk why but at the time it seemed like a good idea but now I realise population doesn't include tourists. What would be the real reason for writing 3001 and would I lose a lot for that?

I wrote something similar, about how the cartoonist was using the "Pop. 3001" to suggest that the giant attraction will barely bring in any new residents. I know the article focused on increasing tourism, but increases in tourism would eventually lead to more residents, so I interpreted the cartoon as essentially saying that a giant watermelon won't inspire more people to live there. I saw some people saying on the VCE Facebook page that the 3001 was supposed to represent the watermelon becoming part of the population, so I guess it can be interpreted both ways.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: angrypotato1 on October 26, 2016, 04:03:37 pm
Were we supposed to treat the image as a third piece effectively? I don't think I talked enough about it...  :'( :'( :'(

I think you had to say it had its own contention. I believe the cartoonist presented a more balanced view, encouraging the community to consider the results of wiley's plan- both positive and negative.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: HarryCondon5 on October 26, 2016, 04:04:20 pm
fak, some debate on the discussion space page about the cartoon. I wrote that it opposed the construction, what about you guys?

I wrote that it supported both Wiley and Warwick; is this allowed? Or have I messed up?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: postera on October 26, 2016, 04:07:48 pm
I wrote something similar, about how the cartoonist was using the "Pop. 3001" to suggest that the giant attraction will barely bring in any new residents. I know the article focused on increasing tourism, but increases in tourism would eventually lead to more residents, so I interpreted the cartoon as essentially saying that a giant watermelon won't inspire more people to live there. I saw some people saying on the VCE Facebook page that the 3001 was supposed to represent the watermelon becoming part of the population, so I guess it can be interpreted both ways.

I feel like the increase in population relates not only to tourism, but contrasts with Wiley's mention (in her column) regarding 'welcom[ing] newcomers' and therefore the growth of Lawton.

I meant to write this but for some reason didn't- I guess time didn't permit.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: alyssarusso1 on October 26, 2016, 04:10:54 pm
Heavens no, closer to three 8s

Thank you! This gives me hope :)
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: danguyenn on October 26, 2016, 05:13:57 pm
Ranked 2nd in my school sacs but completely forgot to mention the image in section c because im an idiot,,,, any chance at all of a 45+???
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: MortarMelon on October 26, 2016, 05:18:11 pm
For the melon, i said it symbolizes the town's agricultural roots and the missing chunk connotes tourism is unsustainable and ultimately degrading for the natural environment, thereby putting future production at risk.

Did anyone else do this?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: RabbitGuy on October 26, 2016, 06:00:16 pm
Hi, I want to know if I lost any marks for referring to Alexandra Wiley as a male instead of a female as I realy thought it was a guy.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on October 26, 2016, 06:05:38 pm
Hi, I want to know if I lost any marks for referring to Alexandra Wiley as a male instead of a female as I realy thought it was a guy.

Probs not.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: craigggy on October 26, 2016, 06:19:56 pm
My contentions completely wrong(that's affect the note form), but i think i find persuasive techniques correct and explain them, do i have any chances to get about 15+ in section C?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: HakunaMattata on October 26, 2016, 08:40:27 pm
I didn't mention the cartoon's contention in my intro, will I be marked down?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: Evan C on October 26, 2016, 09:17:00 pm
I didn't mention the cartoon's contention in my intro, will I be marked down?
provided you mentioned it at some point in your essay, nup.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: Cornrow Kenny on October 26, 2016, 09:44:46 pm
The only rule of the language analysis is that there are no rules.
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: blossum on October 26, 2016, 09:48:26 pm
All I could think about was Warwick from League of Legends..... I just imagined an angry furry... so, so angry.
And the millions of sniffles around me.

I THOUGHT It was gonna be something horrifying similar to one of Lauren's packs. God speed.
I probably pulled a 6, rip. I don't think I could have gotten worse than a 5... *screams*
There was so much more I wanted to analyse but had to move on to the other essays and I totally forgot about it afterwards lol Q_Q
I misinterpreted a few things? e.g. The watermelon was mocking Wiley's ambition for a featured attraction
Understanding the tonal shift might be the only thing I can be proud of in Wiley's piece, but I think I did paraphrase oh nooo nonono
However, I never have to write like that ever again.

Appreciating the watermelon memes, y'all.
#MakeLawtonGreatAgain
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: JellyBeanz on October 26, 2016, 09:54:40 pm
All I could think about was Warwick from League of Legends..... I just imagined an angry furry... so, so angry.
And the millions of sniffles around me.

I THOUGHT It was gonna be something horrifying similar to one of Lauren's packs. God speed.
I probably pulled a 6, rip. I don't think I could have gotten worse than a 5... *screams*
There was so much more I wanted to analyse but had to move on to the other essays and I totally forgot about it afterwards lol Q_Q
I misinterpreted a few things? e.g. The watermelon was mocking Wiley's ambition for a featured attraction
Understanding the tonal shift might be the only thing I can be proud of in Wiley's piece, but I think I did paraphrase oh nooo nonono
However, I never have to write like that ever again.

Appreciating the watermelon memes, y'all.
#MakeLawtonGreatAgain

Agreed the amount of things to analyse was substantial.

Omg and atleast i'm not alone, Warwick confirmed watermelon attraction advocate XD

Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: Callum@1373 on October 26, 2016, 11:08:36 pm
Did anyone else suggest Wiley was trying to urge residents to become positive ambassadors of the town by making them proud of their home town for its 'succulent vegetables' and stuff? I think this might have been a little too far fetched  :'(
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: HopefulLawStudent on October 27, 2016, 07:16:45 am
Did anyone else suggest Wiley was trying to urge residents to become positive ambassadors of the town by making them proud of their home town for its 'succulent vegetables' and stuff? I think this might have been a little too far fetched  :'(

Did you say that that's all that Wiley was trying to achieve?
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: Callum@1373 on October 27, 2016, 01:41:55 pm
Did you say that that's all that Wiley was trying to achieve?
Nah, only in his paragraph where he was trying to get his residents proud of the town they live in
Title: Re: VCE English Exam - Language Analysis Discussion
Post by: rosemaria20 on October 31, 2016, 03:07:29 pm
The text response prompt was very similar to the one in the practice exam. So i basically rewrote that same essay with a few alterations to fit the prompt because all i had was 45mins to finish and my brain was on stress mode. Is that still ok?