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Archived Discussion => Humanities Exam Discussion => Humanities Exams => VCE Exam Discussion 2016 => Exam Discussion => Victoria => History: Revolutions Exam Discussion => Topic started by: Joseph41 on November 04, 2016, 05:03:31 pm
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Ask your final questions here. I'm not sure how many users on these forums studied Revs, so try to help each other out. :)
Best of luck for the exam!
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Do we need historian views for AOS2 France?
My teacher told us we won't, but the sample exam shows that we do...
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It depends whether you are doing France for section A or B.
If you are doing France section A, you are writing two extended answer responses for AOS2 and will not need historians views.
However, if you do France in section B, you will be writing a document analysis on AOS2, and will need other views for the c) question.
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Oh my god, there are sections? We can do it in either A or B?
Our teacher just told us Russia is the essay.
(Thanks for answering!)
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can someone give some advice on how to memorize the historian views? I'm finding it difficult.
p.s I'm doing Russia and China
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I've been told the best way is to stick quotes up all over your room, but I never found this to work for me.
I personally just rote-learn it all, spend a few hours on it, then do mix and match - so, I'd have the historians name, and then I'd have the quote, and put them together. I do between 5-6 quotes per area of study, mainly just to be safe.
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I'm so nervous for Monday! Revs is my last exam so I want to go out with a bang, but I can't escape the feeling that I'm going to choke (even though I've been doing revision for a solid 2+ months). My teacher is putting a lot of pressure on me too, considering that I'm rank 1 in an otherwise very weak cohort.
Is anybody else having trouble remembering who said a certain quote? It's so frustrating, I'm able to memorise some quotes word for word when doing practices but can't remember which historian they came from.
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Is anybody else having trouble remembering who said a certain quote? It's so frustrating, I'm able to memorise some quotes word for word when doing practices but can't remember which historian they came from.
You and me both, deejay. I'm going to have to resort to learning short quotes from different historians, as I don't think I can put huge quotes into my brain right now. That being said, I feel like I should memorise this quote (for the American revolution):
Edward Countryman:
“The Constitution neither strengthened nor undermined slavery; faced with a fundamental moral problem, the delegates chose ultimately to avert their gaze.” Hope I can fit it into an essay topic!
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Can someone please clarify which questions and in which sections we need to know historians points of view? this way im not wasting time memorising unnecessary quotes.
Thank you.
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Can someone please clarify which questions and in which sections we need to know historians points of view? this way im not wasting time memorising unnecessary quotes.
Thank you.
In document analysis c) questions and the essay.
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In document analysis c) questions and the essay.
Thank you.
Will the essay definitely be Section 2, Question 1 and therefore AOS1 / Causes of given Revolution ?
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Would this be sufficient information when referring to the White armies?
White armies
Led by officers of the former Russian army and supported by ousted political groups such as the Socialist Revolutionaries.
- General Denikin’s southern threat – December 1917-1920
Admiral Kolchak’s eastern threat – 1918-1920
Yudenich’s north-western threat - 1919
The Bolsheviks defeated the White Armies as a result of their command of 5 million men in 1920, their heavy use of propaganda and their unity of purpose - all of which the White Armies lacked.
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Would this be sufficient information when referring to the White armies?
White armies
Led by officers of the former Russian army and supported by ousted political groups such as the Socialist Revolutionaries.
- General Denikin’s southern threat – December 1917-1920
Admiral Kolchak’s eastern threat – 1918-1920
Yudenich’s north-western threat - 1919
The Bolsheviks defeated the White Armies as a result of their command of 5 million men in 1920, their heavy use of propaganda and their unity of purpose - all of which the White Armies lacked.
The Peasantry were important too.. and "on the crucial issue of land, the Bolsheviks were the lesser evil" (fitzpatrick)
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Would this be sufficient information when referring to the White armies?
- General Denikin’s southern threat – December 1917-1920
Admiral Kolchak’s eastern threat – 1918-1920
Yudenich’s north-western threat - 1919
Its good to acknowledge the name of the armies:
- General Denikin led the ASFR (Armed Forces of South Russia)
- Kolchaks Siberian Forces
- North Western Army (Yudenich)
Another important player in this:
Green Forces (my notes on this force since you didnt mention them) :
1) They were Russian partisan armies, which rose up in armed resistance against the Red and White armies.
2) Led by Nestor Mahkno.
3) The emergence of the Green Forces indicates that the Civil War was a battle between different visions and claims as to what constituted the real revolution.
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For the Green Armies I've got:
Peasant partisan armies and Cossack forces supporting neither the Whites nor Reds, aggravated by war communism and the Bolshevik's failure to address the bread crisis.
Antonov led a group of 40,000 partisans who successfully controlled the Tambov region until mid-1921.
The Green Armies showed that the Bolsheviks, who had not truly supported the peasants when issuing the Bolshevik Decree on Land, had begun to lose the favour of the peasantry, having only the support of the military and urban workers.
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Is anyone convinced they'd actually ask us directly about the role of Alexandra Kollontai?
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Is anyone convinced they'd actually ask us directly about the role of Alexandra Kollontai?
The study design tells you to study on "the contribution of significant individuals that changed society including Lenin, Trotsky, Felix Dzerzhinsky and
Alexandra Kollontai"
So most probably.
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Thank you.
Will the essay definitely be Section 2, Question 1 and therefore AOS1 / Causes of given Revolution ?
Yes :)
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The study design tells you to study on "the contribution of significant individuals that changed society including Lenin, Trotsky, Felix Dzerzhinsky and
Alexandra Kollontai"
So most probably.
But surely they cannot ask about all of them?
I'd normally play it safe but I have a feeling it won't be on this year's exam, my teacher agrees here.
But I'm willing to just let it slide - only aiming for an 80%
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But surely they cannot ask about all of them?
I'd normally play it safe but I have a feeling it won't be on this year's exam, my teacher agrees here.
But I'm willing to just let it slide - only aiming for an 80%
I don't think they'll ask about all of them but maybe aim to remember a few key things for example Lenin backing Kollontai at the All Russian Congress of Women (19 November 1918 ), as well as the Bolsheviks' Marriage and divorce laws (18 Dec 1917), and that she opposed War Communism and created the Workers' Opposition in 1921.
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How many views are we expected to include for full marks and for which questions?
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How many views are we expected to include for full marks and for which questions?
Usually 3 for a c) response to a document analysis and 3 or more for an essay, so 9 all up.
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Well I've got 16 up my sleeve so I'm pretty prepared then, I guess.