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Title: Would you want to live forever?
Post by: EEEEEEP on August 20, 2017, 09:04:08 pm
Here's a thought. Scientists are always thinking about ways to extend life or to find immortality.

Aging is turned off - https://www.sciencealert.com/immortality-is-one-step-closer-as-scientists-turn-off-the-ageing-process-in-worms

IMMORTALITY GETTING CLOSER - http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/07/16/according-to-this-scientist-human-immortality-will-be-achieved/

Putting aside the consequences...e.g. sustainability and the impact on our environment... let's thing philosophically,,, Would we want to live forever?

Let's say someone gives you a pill that reduces the biological age of your body or slows it down infinitely.,, would you take it?
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People say  "life gets its meaning from having a shape, and things without boundaries have no shape.". This boundary is often life or death. But we often see the value of and in things when our times are limited. For example, If we have had a near death incident, or if someone passes away, then we suddenly see our true meanings in life.

Additionally, some people only want to live forever as they feel that they don't have enough time to do what they want to do.

Another perspective on this is that...  people may get bored of life as well.. everything they have ever wanted to get done will have been done in their eternity or achieved.
Title: Re: Would you want to live forever?
Post by: RuiAce on August 20, 2017, 09:08:18 pm
Nope.

Problem of only me living forever - All my close ones die
Problem of everyone living forever - Overpopulation
Title: Re: Would you want to live forever?
Post by: Calebark on August 20, 2017, 09:22:40 pm
Things that never end lose their spark. Nope.
Title: Re: Would you want to live forever?
Post by: brenden on August 20, 2017, 09:49:16 pm
Like, forever with the choice of bailing, yes. Forever like, for all of eternity - millions of millions of years... no. I'm not sure when people talk about this whether they're using forever in the literal sense or just talking like a few thousand years.

If the latter yeah I'd probs take it. You could live a lifetime in every country in the world.
Title: Re: Would you want to live forever?
Post by: exit on August 20, 2017, 10:03:23 pm
I don't think living forever in a world like this is appealing. But maybe in an alternate universe where there would be reasons to do so.

I guess if there was a reason to keep living, it would be to keep evolving and advancing modern society to new limits without settling. I am always excited to see what human ingenuity can devise :)
Title: Re: Would you want to live forever?
Post by: spectroscopy on August 20, 2017, 10:56:01 pm
if it was a biological thing and not a magical thing i 100% would take the option. by that I mean, if the earth is destroyed in 2 billion years i would not want to be stuck floating around space for eternity because i magically cant die
Title: Re: Would you want to live forever?
Post by: strawberries on August 20, 2017, 11:15:37 pm
I'm geniunely surprised at the results...why wouldn't you want to live forever?
There's so many things I'd want to experience and do in life - I'd never get bored...and I never have to worry about "the end".
Aren't most people afraid of how the worldtheir lives are going to end so soon?

The only reason I can think someone'd say no is if this pill still keeps them at the current lifestyle and their current life is pretty painful physically.
Title: Re: Would you want to live forever?
Post by: Shadowxo on August 21, 2017, 06:47:13 am
Just a thought - if we lived longer that could mean we pay more attention to the health of our planet. Right now some people think "I'll be dead before this becomes a major problem", especially the older people, but if we lived longer then everyone would have to deal with the consequences. Maybe that would mean we try to stop overpopulation now, or reduce our carbon footprint. Maybe living longer is what we need to benefit future generations and not just take the temporary or cheaper solution

Now for my answer to the question - I would like to live longer to be able to experience more within my lifetime, but certainly not forever forever. Knowing that you'd never die / not die for a very long time would indeed take some of the meaning out of life, but I feel as though life now is short, and I'd love to be able to experience many lifetimes of experiences.
Title: Re: Would you want to live forever?
Post by: appleandbee on August 21, 2017, 10:27:15 am
This would be a pretty sad world to be honest.

One where the most privileged and in positions in power ( especially governments in undemocratic states), are most likely going to take this pill to keep their stranglehold on power or to accumulate more wealth. Inequality is further entrenched and there would be a lack of opportunities for advancement, for the top jobs for the young and future generations.

Also when people now think that I have two hundred more years to live, so I'll spend the next 100 years accumulating wealth before helping others. Further trapping young people of the institutions, opportunities and investment to advance. It's mortality and how precious life is that drives us to do good things in the limited time that we have, be nice to others because you don't want someone to die, thinking that you hated them, and empathise with people who are suffering/dying.

Just a thought - if we lived longer that could mean we pay more attention to the health of our planet. Right now some people think "I'll be dead before this becomes a major problem", especially the older people, but if we lived longer then everyone would have to deal with the consequences. Maybe that would mean we try to stop overpopulation now, or reduce our carbon footprint. Maybe living longer is what we need to benefit future generations and not just take the temporary or cheaper solution


Creating another problem to fix one problem? And using people as means to an end? This also assumes that everyone is forced to take this pill.

 
 
Title: Re: Would you want to live forever?
Post by: heids on August 21, 2017, 11:50:42 am
Ignoring the fact that sometimes living for another week seems horrible -

The longer you live, the more you can grow, learn and contribute.  There's always more work to do than time to do it.  One lifetime (or the collective lifetimes of those working to make the world a better place) seem far too short to tackle a fragment of the world's problems.  There's just so much to do, so much to improve...

But if everyone can live longer, then both the bad/destructive and the good/productive (I know the world isn't split into good and bad, but you get my meaning) live longer, and everything remains the same.

Reincarnation and the Buddhist idea of growing towards enlightenment across many lifetimes is a fascinating concept, on a related note.