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General Discussion => Accountability and Motivation => Topic started by: heids on September 17, 2017, 06:18:35 pm

Title: Writing out the nonsense in my head.
Post by: heids on September 17, 2017, 06:18:35 pm
My head is a busy, tangled, deep jungle.  I've never been good at writing it out; with you holding me accountable, I want to build a habit of writing out some of my yoga-inspired deep thoughts every day!

Opening thoughts: Every day I practice, I'm a bit more convinced that yoga is the life path for me.  Not as a hobby or exercise regime or instagram fodder, but a whole life path - involving the philosophy, the morality, the intense daily practice, and the yoga that lives in my everyday movements, thoughts and actions.

Its guidance on how to live shares a lot with my Christian upbringing, but it's different.  That was externally imposed, from the outside in; I was taught moral principles and obligations I should follow.  So it ends up a bit grudging and guilt-based and not really held deep down.

But I've personally embraced yoga.  I genuinely internally want to follow yogic principles, from the inside out, because I discovered them for myself - a new perspective on the same old principles, I guess.

So for instance, I always had this Bible verse drummed into me:
Quote from: Philippians 4:8
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.

I always felt like I should, but it was an obligation.  With yoga - I want to do this.  I'm slowly finding myself increasingly focusing on things that help me grow, and away from things that are toxic, not out of guilt or obligation or shoulds, but out of simply wanting to.

I guess it's part of growing up and becoming independent.  It's almost necessary that my chosen values come from a different place/system to what I was taught, so I can really own them, if that makes sense?
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: zofromuxo on September 17, 2017, 06:25:41 pm
My head is a busy, tangled, deep jungle.  I've never been good at writing it out; with you holding me accountable, I want to build a habit of writing out some of my yoga-inspired deep thoughts every day!

Opening thoughts: Every day I practice, I'm a bit more convinced that yoga is the life path for me.  Not as a hobby or exercise regime or instagram fodder, but a whole life path - involving the philosophy, the morality, the intense daily practice, and the yoga that lives in my everyday movements, thoughts and actions.

Its guidance on how to live shares a lot with my Christian upbringing, but it's different.  That was externally imposed, from the outside in; I was taught moral principles and obligations I should follow.  So it ends up a bit grudging and guilt-based and not really held deep down.

But I've personally embraced yoga.  I genuinely internally want to follow yogic principles, from the inside out, because I discovered them for myself - a new perspective on the same old principles, I guess.

So for instance, I always had this Bible verse drummed into me:
I always felt like I should, but it was an obligation.  With yoga - I want to do this.  I'm slowly finding myself increasingly focusing on things that help me grow, and away from things that are toxic, not out of guilt or obligation or shoulds, but out of simply wanting to.

I guess it's part of growing up and becoming independent.  It's almost necessary that my chosen values come from a different place/system to what I was taught, so I can really own them, if that makes sense?
Don't worry heids your making senses and good on you for taking the step into embracing Yoga as your lifestyle from the childhood embed Christian values. This isn't an attack on Christianity, but more on the ideals that people feel obligated to follow because of their childhood.

You have done what many people can't, won't, haven't but should do. So congratulations and I look forward to "yoga-inspired deep thoughts".
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: K888 on September 17, 2017, 06:58:04 pm
Yessss Heids 🙌
So keen to read your updates! <3
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on September 18, 2017, 09:08:44 pm
Since I stretch my hip flexors intensely, the next day my hips are sore and tight, and I have to spend a few minutes during practice gently easing myself into sitting cross-legged, then half-lotus, then lotus (basically, just sitting there).

My brain really revolts against this few minutes of doing seemingly nothing.  It tries to come up with some way of multitasking to avoid wasting those minutes: I could exercise my arms, or post on AN, or read, or nut out some complex argument in my head.  Surely this isn't the most efficient way to exercise!

Instead, I just sit there with the thoughts.

What am I in such a rush to do?  Why the constant need to achieve and do and think more, and faster?  What makes time spent mindfully and calmly and consciously a waste of time?

Really makes me question my priorities and behaviours.  There's a lot of useless busy time I could spend doing nothing, but being mindfully there.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on September 19, 2017, 04:48:52 pm
From yoga study (on the principles of saucha and santosha - cleanliness and peace), I've developed the habit of smiling and mentally wishing "May you have peace, love and wellbeing" (or a relevant variation) to people I pass and at the end of interactions.  Just like, sending them the real desire for their good.

It doesn't do anything, but it makes me feel happier and more connected and more expansive and just good.  You can't get angry at someone you've just wished love to, and when small annoying things happen in public, I just feel peace with it rather than irritation.

I enjoy interacting with strangers more since I started this, too.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: peterpiper on September 19, 2017, 05:10:12 pm
From yoga study (on the principles of saucha and santosha - cleanliness and peace), I've developed the habit of smiling and mentally wishing "May you have peace, love and wellbeing" (or a relevant variation) to people I pass and at the end of interactions.  Just like, sending them the real desire for their good.

It doesn't do anything, but it makes me feel happier and more connected and more expansive and just good.  You can't get angry at someone you've just wished love to, and when small annoying things happen in public, I just feel peace with it rather than irritation.

I enjoy interacting with strangers more since I started this, too.

I'm loving this. Keep it up Heids! :)
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on September 19, 2017, 05:22:37 pm
I'm loving this. Keep it up Heids! :)

So do I! Hahaha.

Especially over the last few weeks, I've actually been feeling yoga healing me.  Still have bad days, still very tired a lot of the time, but I'm starting to have a few okay and even good days to balance it out.  After eighteen months of basically non-stop bad days, I feel like I'm genuinely recovering from this depression.

Yoga is hardly a simple cure (lol, today I wanted to give up during every single pose and had a hard time not crying all through), and I know I'm going to have hard times and probably further episodes in future, but the physical and mental tools it's given me have been what I've been looking for.  I'll definitely go into some of those tools during this journally thing!
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: elysepopplewell on September 19, 2017, 06:10:06 pm
Since I stretch my hip flexors intensely, the next day my hips are sore and tight, and I have to spend a few minutes during practice gently easing myself into sitting cross-legged, then half-lotus, then lotus (basically, just sitting there).

My brain really revolts against this few minutes of doing seemingly nothing.  It tries to come up with some way of multitasking to avoid wasting those minutes: I could exercise my arms, or post on AN, or read, or nut out some complex argument in my head.  Surely this isn't the most efficient way to exercise!

Instead, I just sit there with the thoughts.

What am I in such a rush to do?  Why the constant need to achieve and do and think more, and faster?  What makes time spent mindfully and calmly and consciously a waste of time?

Really makes me question my priorities and behaviours.  There's a lot of useless busy time I could spend doing nothing, but being mindfully there.

This really resonates with me too. Even when I'm sitting in the bath on the odd occasion I'm like "I should have my uni readings here" or when I'm on the train I'm thinking "I should be working on my assignments" and then I remember - what's the rush? What's the great urgency to pump a million little things into every day? The need to succeed is crippling of calm solitude, I find.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on September 20, 2017, 10:17:53 am
I've always been told to "breathe deeply" for anxiety, but couldn't manage it.  Only through yoga have I figured out how breathing works for me.  I'm trying to use it more and more of the time (building in this awareness is quite hard).

I shut my mouth and breathe through my nose, and expand my chest (put your hands on the sides of your ribcage and breathe to push them out), imagining I'm opening up the area round my heart and completely filling out my chest and upper abdomen.  Then I completely empty and release.

I time this rhythmically with normal activities.  Because it's matched rhythmically with movement, I can breathe deeply and evenly without having to fully focus on breathing as it flows naturally.

--> when walking anywhere, I take four steps to an inhalation and four to an exhalation (or 3 or 6 if I'm walking slowly or quickly)

--> doing any repetitive task at work, I time the movements with breaths (e.g. inhale: stick point into tag and then into seam of clothing, exhale: double click gun, remove point and tear off tag; repeat ad infinitum), making me faster, more focused, and calmer

--> I try to bend and move in time with breath (if I lower myself down or release, I exhale, and if I lift myself up or expand, I inhale)

The more I control my breath like this, the more things seem to flow and I remain calm and mindful.  Controlling it seems to help control much harder things to manage - emotions, heartrate, etc. :D
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: Coffee on September 20, 2017, 10:38:01 am
I've always been told to "breathe deeply" for anxiety, but couldn't manage it.  Only through yoga have I figured out how breathing works for me.  I'm trying to use it more and more of the time (building in this awareness is quite hard).

I shut my mouth and breathe through my nose, and expand my chest (put your hands on the sides of your ribcage and breathe to push them out), imagining I'm opening up the area round my heart and completely filling out my chest and upper abdomen.  Then I completely empty and release.

I time this rhythmically with normal activities.  Because it's matched rhythmically with movement, I can breathe deeply and evenly without having to fully focus on breathing as it flows naturally.

--> when walking anywhere, I take four steps to an inhalation and four to an exhalation (or 3 or 6 if I'm walking slowly or quickly)

--> doing any repetitive task at work, I time the movements with breaths (e.g. inhale: stick point into tag and then into seam of clothing, exhale: double click gun, remove point and tear off tag; repeat ad infinitum), making me faster, more focused, and calmer

--> I try to bend and move in time with breath (if I lower myself down or release, I exhale, and if I lift myself up or expand, I inhale)

The more I control my breath like this, the more things seem to flow and I remain calm and mindful.  Controlling it seems to help control much harder things to manage - emotions, heartrate, etc. :D
Heidi, this is really interesting!

I’ve had anxiety-related breathing problems since towards the end of Year 7, and it’s like I can never get that deep, satisfying breath, only occasionally. Is this what it’s like for you?

It’s been much worse for me as of late, and I think I’d like to give some breathing exercises a go. Do you have any resources that might help?

I’m really glad to hear its working for you, and I’m enjoying reading your updates! :)
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on September 20, 2017, 11:00:38 am
Heidi, this is really interesting!

I’ve had anxiety-related breathing problems since towards the end of Year 7, and it’s like I can never get that deep, satisfying breath, only occasionally. Is this what it’s like for you?

It’s been much worse for me as of late, and I think I’d like to give some breathing exercises a go. Do you have any resources that might help?

I’m really glad to hear its working for you, and I’m enjoying reading your updates! :)


*this is only what works for me, no medical advice lol*

Surprisingly, the biggest thing for me was nasal breathing.  I'd always tried to breathe deeply with my mouth open to get more air, and could never get a proper breath; it was more like gasping.

Focusing more on slow, steady breathing rather than deep breathing has helped too.  I'm not trying desperately to grab more oxygen (which is what anxiety makes me want to do), but just focusing on steady in and steady out, slow and steady and gentle.  A smaller, slower breath is more calming than a huge deep gasping breath, even if it only lifts the chest a little.  You're not going to die of lack of oxygen, and it's okay.

I'd been told that chest breathing led to hyperventilation and stomach breathing was the cure, but it's worked the other way round for me. 

But yes - I completely understand that struggle with breathing, and the weight on the chest, and the nausea in the stomach.  It's shit, and it's okay that it's hard as hell and not very calmable.  Constant practice of small calming breaths, and especially in line with movement, has been the best help for me.

Does anyone else have suggestions?
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: K888 on September 20, 2017, 12:37:27 pm
Does anyone else have suggestions?
So, for transparency, a lot of the stuff I've learnt was when I played high level soccer, and also through rehab for injuries, etc. so was probably initially meant for a slightly different purpose, but I've found it all super helpful in dealing with anxiety! (when I remember to do it ::))

My first one is (breathing through your nose): inhaling for six seconds (you can do this nice and slowly, no need to inhale intensely), then hold it for two seconds, then exhale for seven seconds (if you can manage - this can be hard). Apparently this lowers your heartrate, I certainly find that it does, and I first did it to calm myself down before important matches, but use it super often now :)

Also, kinda related to that first point, I recommend breathing through your diaphragm (I think this is also "stomach breathing"?) - taking really nice, deep breaths. I learnt about this when rehabbing a back injury (this was an aspect of getting deep core control), you're using more of your lung capacity, and it's good for you! I always feel like I get really deep, satisfying breaths from this.

That's all I can remember for now, will likely remember something else later on today.
Happy to show you these if you come to the meetup, Coffee!
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on September 21, 2017, 05:20:28 pm
I had a rough day at work today and am exhausted, but still have asana practice* to do.  How hard should one push oneself?

Physically, yoga is a balance between strength and flexibility; mentally, between discipline and doing what feels right in the moment.

I've seen harm from both overly stoic attitudes, and overly soft and indulgent attitudes.  Yoga always reminds me that extremes are almost always harmful, and healthy balance - the middle, moderate way - is a fine line.  I guess finding this middle path is a process of *self-aware* trial and error. 

My lesson for myself today is that it's not all or nothing.  I don't have to do either a full 70 minute practice or nothing at all; 15 minutes of sun salutations and some standing poses will be enough.

Gotta try and apply this to food and work especially... I'm pretty all-or-nothing about these.  Balance, balance, balance.

*asana = poses, the physical side of yoga
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: Joseph41 on September 21, 2017, 05:22:52 pm
My lesson for myself today is that it's not all or nothing.  I don't have to do either a full 70 minute practice or nothing at all; 15 minutes of sun salutations and some standing poses will be enough.

Brilliant. Great post!
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on September 22, 2017, 10:26:28 am
Following on from yesterday:

Partial practice is hard for me.  Hundreds of yoga poses exist, and I want to be able to fit them all in!  While doing a pose, I sometimes find myself thinking that I could be doing another pose.

It's my perfectionism playing up again... it wants me to be improving faster, doing better, doing more, and it's scared of missing out on opportunities to improve.  Missing a pose makes me feel like I'm going backwards on the strength/flexibility/balance it develops.  But all perfectionism does is rob me of the actual aim of yoga: peace and presence and acceptance in the moment.

As Kino says, "Give yourself a lifetime to practice".  Fifteen minutes a day, a few simple poses, are enough.  It's not a race.  It's not about fitting more in.  It's not a competition.  I have decades (probably) to experience different poses, and even if I don't experience them, it's no big deal.

This is going to take me years to learn. ::)
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on September 23, 2017, 06:02:24 pm
With the weather warming up, I've started absolutely dripping with sweat during practice.  I've always been a great exerciser in winter and a couch potato in summer, because I dislike the heat so much.  That's going to change this year, but it'll be a struggle to figure out how to enjoy yoga with weather in the 30s.

(On the plus side, was able to get my arms through my lotus knee cracks and do garbha pindasana properly for the first time because the coating of sweat let them slide right through 😂😅😧)

One of the niyamas (observances/principles) in yoga is tapas - the fire of self-discipline.  It celebrates the heat, both literally and figuratively, physically and spiritually, as a way to purify oneself through discomfort.  I'm really not keen on grappling with this... do not like pushing myself out of my comfort zone.

I have so many doubts about myself, tbh.  I feel like I'm not disciplined enough and like I don't have enough distress tolerance to make myself continue through unpleasantness, and am therefore not "good enough" for yoga.  I see myself as kind and loving, but not very strong or self-controlled or good at dealing with hardship.

Gotta remind myself that yoga is about starting wherever you are and working for that, not expecting perfection.  Its goal is to strengthen you, rather than expecting you to be strong from the get go.  It's okay.  I'm okay.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on September 24, 2017, 10:54:21 pm
Just had a hard (and late!) session.  No reason, I was just anxious and my mind chattering.

("You need to be looking at the right thing and being aligned properly and relaxing into the pose while still remaining firm and maintaining your bandhas (i.e. engaging pelvic floor and lower abdomen) and breathing freely and smoothly and through your chest rather than shallowly through your nostrils and feeling peace and concentration in the pose and you're not achieving all or any of this so you're no good at yoga and you're not doing it properly and you're forming bad habits and will never be half decent at yoga and without a teacher you're sure to fuck up badly and look now you're resting you lazy piece of shit and you deserve to be sliced into several hundred pieces and fed to the dogs and...")

Despite accepting these as just ego-based thoughts and feelings, and keeping breathing, and reminding myself that I've only been practicing ashtanga for three months which makes me an absolute newbie, and that objectively I'm a decent human being, my brain was still running wild.

That's life.  Tomorrow is another day, and I got on the mat (carpet lol) and practiced despite all, which is an absolute success.

It's okay to fuck up, okay to not be perfect, and okay to struggle with this imperfection.  You hear that, Heidi?! hahahaha
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on September 26, 2017, 11:05:58 am
I've been really noticing the effects of perspective, and how much it's not about the content of your life, but the context, or the way you see it.

I've always known this, but yoga has just made it more real, and something I actually WANT to do.

For instance:

You're driving, and the way you choose to go happens to be full of traffic, plus a couple of loons cut in front of you.  Fuck them, fuck everything!

Buttttt hang on.  You just took an extra... three minutes driving, maybe?  Three minutes.  It's not seventeen years.  And it's not like you lost three minutes of your life - you had those three minutes in the car to spend as you wish.  You can spend them meditatively - patiently - kindly - breathing steadily.  In doing so, those three minutes become really valuable; you're practicing yoga in those minutes, and growing as a person, and finding peace in difficulty.

I've been applying this to all sorts of things.  I have to stand up in the train or walk further?  Good exercise.  I have to wait longer for something?  I can stretch my body and breathe for a bit.  I have to deal with annoying people?  Character development.

It's self-evident and maybe eye-roll material, and I'm in no way condemning being annoyed when things go wrong (I still am all the time hahaha ::)).

But... it makes you happier and kinder.  I'm glad I'm working (very slowly lol) towards being more conscious of perspective.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on September 27, 2017, 10:55:10 pm
These thoughts of Gregor Maehle replace mine today. :D  Well worth a read; a reminder of how dependent we are on external supports, rather than internal strength.

"By living a simple life without extremes and without constantly yielding to my desires, my mind is concentrated and focused.  On the other hand, if I follow the call of this world to 'spoil yourself', 'treat yourself', 'pamper yourself', I communicate to my mind that I am not in charge of my life.  Rather, I cement the belief that a constant stream of external stimulation and sensory satisfaction has to occur for me to keep my mental equilibrium - which means I am not in charge of my life but am a slave to my needs and desires.

"To wake up to the truth that I need nothing at all to be internally happy, that in fact constantly following external stimuli separates me from myself, is tapas.  Austerity* will make us strong, whereas gluttony and decadence weaken.  The more we believe we need certain things, the more we will be dependent on them.  The simpler we can be, the freer we will be."

*yoga doesn't support extreme austerity or asceticism; balance, the middle path, is yoga
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on October 08, 2017, 09:25:58 pm
It's been a while since I posted!  I've been away without internet, and thus spending all my time reading and thinking and practicing yoga, so... let's just say everyone who knows me is sick of the word yoga hahaha.

Today imma share something I learnt about myself over the last week.

Beyond all the layers of self-hate, self-doubt and shame at the surface, right at the very core, I actually trust myself.  Not trust that I always act from good motives (I don't) or don't make mistakes (I do), but a base level of belief that I am genuine, and genuinely love and care for others and want their best.

I think that's why I remain idealistic.  I trust that some others are good to the core, because I trust that I myself am.

I definitely doubt this often, and wonder if my faith in myself is just me deluding myself and I'm actually a shitty blind egotistical wart, but I'm pretty sure that foundation of trust is there and has always been there.

I want to work to maintain this core belief in my own integrity, by acting as much as possible from alignment and integrity.  Every time I lie, deceive, flatter, or behave against my values, it feels like I'm pulling out a small stone from that solid foundation of genuine self-trust, and I need that foundation.

<3
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: zofromuxo on October 08, 2017, 10:36:36 pm
Integrity/Honesty/Trust. I have a terrible relationship with this concept up on till Year 12.

I still recall the days, when I didn't act in my best interest because I was afraid of doing so and thought deceit was the better option.

To cut a long story short, it was only until I was called in by my co-ordinator for a note I left for a teacher crying out for help. That I realised that lying wasn't helping me at all because what happens is that if you do it long enough like I certainly did. You can't tell what is true and what isn't, you can't tell if your own words you speak are the truth or not. You are like gaslighting yourself.

So yes, I absolutely agree that one should align to integrity and the truth in their every waking moment because the alternative is a hell unlike another.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on October 10, 2017, 09:43:18 am
I still recall the days, when I didn't act in my best interest because I was afraid of doing so and thought deceit was the better option.

Being honest and vulnerable can be scary. as. hell.  Gratz on getting through this barrier!

I love how you need nothing external to practice yoga and change your life.  It's free.  It's simple.  Not easy, but simple.

I have no mat, no official yoga clothes, no props, no studio classes, no gym admission, no personally owned books.  (Ofc at first I needed teaching, which I got from YouTube and library books, but now it lives in my mind). 

I just need a flat space, my body and my mind.

I have many poses and sequences and breathings and philosophies stored in my brain, available at any time.  I know the order of my full 90min practice session down to the breath count.  First thing out of bed, during a break at work, if it's cold and I want to get warm, if I'm stressed, or if I've been at the computer too long - I do a couple of impromptu sun salutations or whatever on the spot. 

It resets me, body and mind, so simply.

Finding health and happiness and growth can be simple and free.  It requires consistency and dedication and hard work, but is accessible to all.

Hint hint: IT'S THE SAME WITH HSC/VCE; buying lots of stuff and going to lots of lectures and tutoring and whatever doesn't win a good ATAR. Actually putting in the work does.  For that you need nothing fancy: just your mind and body and lots of paper, digital or otherwise. :P
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on October 13, 2017, 12:04:04 pm
Yoga and food.  *confession time*

In yoga, food is simply a means to look after your body.  It's not about looks or acceptance from others or being a good person by eating well - or about self-punishment, as I've been using it (through starving or binging to extremes out of self-hate).

Despite this, I've been eating terribly unhealthily.  I'm talking full blocks of chocolate, full packets of chips, in one sitting, very often (and trust me, a binge looks far worse than that).

I've been taking food from the pantry secretively, esp when my parents are out, and buying junk food and eating it in secret... which totally violates yoga's practices (niyamas) of non-stealing, non-greed and truth (asteya, aparigraha and satya, for other sanskrit-minded weirdos hehe).

I'm so ashamed.

But I'm practicing just sitting with it.  It's not the end of the world.  Bad habits are fixable over time, and I'm hardly expected to become a miraculously perfect human being just because I've started yoga!   

I'm a work in progress.  Yoga tells me that's okay.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on October 14, 2017, 10:35:21 pm
A reminder to self that every minute is an opportunity to practice.

Every moment can be valuable, in terms of living with more patience, kindness, awareness, presence.  "Bad" times when I feel shitty and distinctly non-yogic are especially valuable moments of practice.  A "bad day" isn't a bad or wasted day; it's a day of growth even if it feels like I'm going backwards.  Time "uselessly" spent (e.g. in a queue) is opportunity for practice and presence.

The struggles are real parts of life, not the parts you get through to reach life.

forgive me for waffling in such a positive-psychology-catch-phrases style: despite sounding fluffy these are genuine truths I'm tying to engrain in my head ::)
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on October 16, 2017, 10:14:41 pm
Thinking about incorporating yoga in the long run is making me question so many things.

In ashtanga yoga, the style of yoga I've been doing, you commit to six days a week of intense, strict, 1-2 hour sessions.  Of course I'm free to mix and match as I choose, but I'm very drawn to this disciplined approach.  So I'm figuring out how to fit something that long and intense into daily life, when daily life includes a full time job and friendships and other commitments.

It's making me ask "why" to a lot of things that I take for granted in a day (including yoga!)

It's an ongoing process of asking why I do each thing, and whether it helps or harms.  I want to both give to others as much and effectively as possible, while keeping my own well full.  I have much to learn!
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on October 18, 2017, 02:00:14 pm
I reckon we all have the answers to life inside - it's just hidden behind a whole lot of junk (materialism, hatred, addiction, ego, etc).

Like, we all know:
- not to compare ourselves with others
- material possessions don't gain happiness
- being kind helps make us happy
- we should breathe more often
- if we lived (approximately) as though this was our last day, we'd live better
etc.

But in the rush of life all these things get buried and we forget them.

This is what yoga is to me: clearing away the junk, trying to be mindful of these principles more often, and realising that we don't need to look outside for the answers.  (I've noticed that one of my forms of materialism/desire is always wanting another book or article or YouTube video that will teach me more, when actually, I already know the simple truths that matter.  Trying to cut down my thirst for more, more, more, and instead focus on practicing what I already have!)

Does anyone have any ways they try to remember truths - e.g. to breathe consciously more often during the day - as often as possible?
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on October 20, 2017, 05:11:21 pm
Believe it or not, I now actually have some arm muscles and abs lol. First time in my life.

I love how yoga is building strength.  I've always been a stereotypically feminine person, physically and mentally, which tends to correspond more to flexibility.  Yoga is *starting* to balance me out by adding physical strength, which makes flexibility safer and more supported - and I'm hoping to develop greater mental strength (e.g. maintaining boundaries and limits with others, as opposed to bending over backwards and not telling the truth in tricky situations).

Balance, balance, balance! :D
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on October 24, 2017, 05:27:06 pm
I feel like current society focuses on visible, sexy, dramatic, showy, immediate gestures and changes.  Consistent, persistent, small, invisible work isn't celebrated, and yet I feel it's the only way to actually make change, and so much more heroic and challenging lol.

A push to achieve too quickly is advertised as wonderful and achievable, but I reckon it's more often ineffective and harmful, e.g. in strength-building, it causes injury, and in diet, it causes dangerous yo-yo dieting. 

Real change or results (in weight, fitness, friendships, relationships, study, kindness, courage, etc)
seems to me to happen imperceptibly over a longer period of time, which can be really discouraging when you can't see results, and when you have to keep it up every single day.

Sooooo, trying to remind myself  that consistency in the long run may be far harder and far less sexy, but it's far more effective and honest.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on October 26, 2017, 10:39:18 pm
I've long believed it's very important to admit mistakes rather than get defensive... so mostly, I freely admit to errors I make, though on the spot I can get defensive if I don't take a second to think.

But still some errors or ignorances are very hard to admit for no apparent reason.  Yesterday at work I had to do a simple, common task that I've avoided so far because I didn't know how to do it.  I had to swallow my pride and ask another worker (who isn't "as good a worker" as me - what an ego I have! - and hasn't been there as long).  The simple sentence, "mate, could you show me how to do this?" was stupidly hard to say.  Yoga made me ask it.

Gotta try and be more conscious of the things I try to hide, even while I'm very easily open about some things.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: zofromuxo on October 26, 2017, 10:57:41 pm
I've long believed it's very important to admit mistakes rather than get defensive... so mostly, I freely admit to errors I make, though on the spot I can get defensive if I don't take a second to think.

But still some errors or ignorances are very hard to admit for no apparent reason.  Yesterday at work I had to do a simple, common task that I've avoided so far because I didn't know how to do it.  I had to swallow my pride and ask another worker (who isn't "as good a worker" as me - what an ego I have! - and hasn't been there as long).  The simple sentence, "mate, could you show me how to do this?" was stupidly hard to say.  Yoga made me ask it.

Gotta try and be more conscious of the things I try to hide, even while I'm very easily open about some things.
Don't push yourself too hard heidi. Humans always make mistakes, don't punish yourself to hard for these mistakes.
I'm sure it won't get to that stage, but be careful not to be too critical of yourself on these mistakes.
It can be just as harmful and even more so then not being conscious of the mistakes you made.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on October 31, 2017, 04:19:11 pm
Don't push yourself too hard heidi. Humans always make mistakes, don't punish yourself to hard for these mistakes.
I'm sure it won't get to that stage, but be careful not to be too critical of yourself on these mistakes.
It can be just as harmful and even more so then not being conscious of the mistakes you made.

I have a history of being insanely critical of myself over tiny things.  My aim here is to become more able to freely admit my errors to myself and others, which would require realising that they're not important, and are okay to admit. :)

I haven't posted here for a few days because so many ideas have been flooding my head, I don't know which to choose, and my perfectionism is kicking in.  ::). Gotta take a step back and remember it doesn't matter precisely what I write about, and I have time.  This isn't a race.

I just finished Alexandre Dumas' 117-chapter novel, The Count of Monte Cristo.  It ends with:

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"There is neither happiness nor misery in the world; there is only the comparison of one state with another, nothing more. He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must have felt what it is to die, Morrel, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of living.

“Live, then, and be happy, beloved children of my heart, and never forget that until the day when God shall deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is summed up in these two words,—‘Wait and hope.’

—Your friend,
"Edmond Dantès, Count of Monte Cristo."

I'll discuss what yoga-related thoughts I've drawn out of the book tomorrow. :D
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on November 02, 2017, 11:08:11 am
One lesson I got from The Count of Monte Cristo:

"This too shall pass". 

The main character spends fourteen years (!) in jail, age 20-34, during which he thinks his life is essentially over.  The bulk of the novel shows his life post-prison, building a new life and hugely impacting others; prison becomes a semi-forgotten thing of his past.

It's easy, stuck in the middle of something - be it high school and year 12 exams, a depressive episode, abuse, a breakup - to see it as eternal and life-defining.  In reality, it passes and becomes a very minor thing in a life full of many, many experiences. It's important to do your best in each stage of life, but in the long term, all that is right now so hugely important has little impact.

We all know this, but I found Edmond's reminder to "wait and hope" through all things encouraging.  Had he killed himself in prison, as he planned to, he would never have got out and had the impact he did; essentially, he would have been in prison forever.  By waiting and hoping - for FOURTEEN long years! - and knowing that this too shall pass, it did pass, and he lived a long life full of many other deeds.

Yoga constantly brings me back to this.  I'll get through.  I need to see that bigger picture rather than get lost in little waves of the ocean as if they're the whole ocean.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on November 03, 2017, 03:00:11 pm
Empathy!

I'm a very empathetic person.  If someone talks of strong emotions that I can relate to - nervousness before exams, humiliation, shame from performing poorly at something, intense relief when pressure lifts - I feel it very viscerally in my body.

As a result, I can often feel terrible for people and want to fix everything for them, so that they - and I! - can stop feeling this way.

The year after I finished VCE, I dived in deep with helping people and got really involved in the VCE journeys of lots of ANers.  When exams and results came round, I was emotionally invested in all their feelings, and it ended up an over-intense rollercoaster of feeling the relief and joy of the satisfied, the pain and humiliation of the disappointed, and such a desire to protect and fix.  It was too much; I've kept myself detached from helping like that the last two years.

I've been learning a lot about perspective on my own troubles lately.  I've learnt to believe that all things work together for good - that all my experiences, good and bad (not that anything is intrinsically good or bad), offer me a chance to grow.  So when I struggle, I'm gradually believing more and more that it's necessary and bearable and even good, no matter how horrible.

I'm finding (ty Brenden and Dad!) that I need to apply this to those I love, too.  When they struggle:
- they will get through okay
- the pain is transient
- it is for their best and will help them
- it is not something to be avoided.

I don't mean I'll preach this at them lol, more, that while I can still share in their pain, I can also step back and see its true value rather than trying madly to squelch it because it hurts.  And just be there for people, rather than try and fix people. :D
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: peterpiper on November 04, 2017, 04:05:40 pm
One lesson I got from The Count of Monte Cristo:

"This too shall pass". 

The main character spends fourteen years (!) in jail, age 20-34, during which he thinks his life is essentially over.  The bulk of the novel shows his life post-prison, building a new life and hugely impacting others; prison becomes a semi-forgotten thing of his past.

It's easy, stuck in the middle of something - be it high school and year 12 exams, a depressive episode, abuse, a breakup - to see it as eternal and life-defining.  In reality, it passes and becomes a very minor thing in a life full of many, many experiences. It's important to do your best in each stage of life, but in the long term, all that is right now so hugely important has little impact.

We all know this, but I found Edmond's reminder to "wait and hope" through all things encouraging.  Had he killed himself in prison, as he planned to, he would never have got out and had the impact he did; essentially, he would have been in prison forever.  By waiting and hoping - for FOURTEEN long years! - and knowing that this too shall pass, it did pass, and he lived a long life full of many other deeds.

Yoga constantly brings me back to this.  I'll get through.  I need to see that bigger picture rather than get lost in little waves of the ocean as if they're the whole ocean.

There was a quote in a book I'm reading which reminded me of what you said. Just thought I should share it:

"To ask earnestly the question of the ultimate meaning of history takes one's breath away. It transports us into a vacuum which only hope and faith can fill."

Not sure how it's completely connected, but the background to this quote is that the historian was asking about the lessons of what we could learn from history, and what its essential meaning is if as time passed we forget about it or that mankind ceases to exist and no one is around to make sense of any of what could be studied. The part when he talks about the "vacuum" just sort of reminded me of living. We get so caught up in things that we lose perspective, that what's worth any of our experience is the sum of how much we hope and have faith in the corrolary of experiences to come. Ergo, in studying history, we revisit these parts of ourselves, which give it a worthwhile-ness, a meaning beyond constraints of time, whether or not it would mean anything in 100 year's time...because that doesn't matter. What matters for studying anything whether it is ourselves, the world, or simply history, is that we continue to have hope and faith in what we know now can give rise to more meaningful experiences.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on November 06, 2017, 09:40:22 pm
"To ask earnestly the question of the ultimate meaning of history takes one's breath away. It transports us into a vacuum which only hope and faith can fill."

Oh man, I know that existential vacuum well.  Hope and faith are definitely all that can fill it.  Truth.

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Ergo, in studying history, we revisit these parts of ourselves, which give it a worthwhile-ness, a meaning beyond constraints of time, whether or not it would mean anything in 100 year's time...because that doesn't matter. What matters for studying anything whether it is ourselves, the world, or simply history, is that we continue to have hope and faith in what we know now can give rise to more meaningful experiences.

So true.  It's easy to focus on "this means nothing in the bigger scheme of things", but it means something RIGHT NOW.  A meaningful experience lives in the present; it doesn't have to exist in the future.  For instance, I've worked in dementia care, and sometimes people ask what is the point of doing kind things for them, as they forget a few moments afterwards.  But it matters to me that they have experienced joy in that moment, even if they don't remember.


I just wrote myself a permission slip: "Here's permission to be as happy, deep and passionate as you can." (Ironically, I'm feeling very not-happy this evening, haha).  From now on, I'm allowed to feel happy (or sad, or whatever I feel), regardless of what others feel.  I'm allowed to be well.

I'm going to try not to apologise for being happy, deep and passionate again.  I don't need to compare, compare, compare.

*lets go*
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on November 07, 2017, 04:57:05 pm
EDIT: I realise all the things I say don't seem directly related to yoga.  In my mind, they are: anything related to faith, hope, change of perspective, kindness, love, surrounding yourself with good - all are linked to yoga philosophy.

Another character from The Count of Monte Cristo, although fictional and unrealistic haha, inspired me. 

This character was a fellow prisoner who broke into the Count's prison cell after years of whittling out a tunnel while in solitary confinement.  With no logical hope and very few resources, he still spent months working on creating tools to help him tunnel his way through fifty feet of rock, and also wrote his life work, even using his own blood as ink.  He managed to give himself a purpose every single day in the most barren of circumstances.

The Abbe Farir's example lives with me every day.  No matter my circumstances I'm reminded that I can continue living with purpose.  Can't describe how much it's impacted me: I feel like I've learnt from it the power to sit in a room with nothing to do and still occupy myself.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on November 08, 2017, 04:19:40 pm
Today, I came across this:

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People try to become special by talking about their miseries.  If someone sympathises with you and believes in your misery - even in your exaggerated version of it - you feel happy.  Misery makes you special.  Misery makes you more egoistic.

I am in *no way* applying this to others, or even universally to myself, but I do think it's relevant to my current situation.

For the past couple of months I've been trying to negotiate the "getting better" process and have been looking towards shedding my personal and social label of "depressed".  It's hard, and I've experienced a lot of internal resistance.

With the "depressed" label, others give me leeway.  If I behave like a dick, I can blame it on feeling shit.  If I want to dodge certain responsibilities, I can.  If I want sympathy or attention, I can get it.  I'm treated differently.

This is all very fair when I was really severely depressed, but now I'm struggling more mildly - and looking to the future where I'll hopefully be at a "normal" level of ups and downs - I need to let go of this protection and specialness.  It's not to say I won't reach out for help or give myself leeway, because life has its downs outside of mental illness (everything is so much more grey and graduated than a black and white "depressed" or "not depressed" label!), but I need to stop hiding behind this.

Simply having looked at this clearly and straight in the face is helping me.  Hard, but helpful. ;D

I'm getting there, folks.  Wherever "there" is.  Life is messy.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on November 13, 2017, 03:26:53 pm
Quote from: James Baraz
Mindfulness is simply being aware of what is happening right now without wishing it were different; enjoying the pleasant without holding on when it changes (which it will); being with the unpleasant without fearing it will always be this way (which it won't).

Quote from: Jack Kornfield
As we encounter new experiences with a mindful and wise attention, we discover that one of three things will happen to our new experience: it will go away, it will stay the same, or it will get more intense.  Whatever happens does not really matter.

I've often thought that how I'm feeling at a particular point is absolutely unbearable and I cannot possibly survive it.  This has never proved true.  Everything has always turned out to be okay, every intense feeling has always abated, I have survived everything.

And no matter what happens, I'm going to be able to survive the future.  So are you.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on November 16, 2017, 04:58:56 pm
Heidi and the Fly, or, An Unentertaining Story of my Over-Mindful Self being Fucking Weird

Out walking, I met a fly.  I became annoyed, swatted out at the fly, made faces at the fly, and it would not go away.  Darned fly.

Then Mindful Heidi kicked in.  I've been making her the entire focus of my life lately - my entire purpose for each day right now is to be mindful.

Anyway, this M.H. began to talk:

"How about you just sit with this fly?  Just let it be.  It's here in your life right now to teach you.  Keep breathing."

So I sat with it (more accurately, walked with it).  I let it tickle my face and buzz annoyingly while I just observed.  But actually - is the tickling or the buzzing innately annoying?  Just a feeling and a sound.  Neither positive or negative.  It just is.  It's only my brain that attaches negativity to it.  So I just heard the noise and felt the fly walking round on my face and sneaking up under my sunnies to get to my eyes.

My face itched.  I didn't let my hand move up automatically and scratch it.  I just kept walking and breathing deeply and smiling and waited for the itch to pass.  It was surprisingly difficult not to scratch it, but it passed.  I didn't have to react.

I smiled at the fly and hoped it had a good life.  I called it Leslie.  When it left, I said goodbye.  I didn't hate it.

Then I laughed at myself.  What a fucking loon.  Wishing a fly a good life.  Saying to myself that it came into my life for a purpose.  Thinking such weird shit.  But that's okay.  I enjoyed walking, I enjoyed the fly, I enjoyed breathing, I enjoyed laughing at myself, and I enjoyed being a fucking loon.

You may or may not notice, but I've been changing a lot lately.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on November 18, 2017, 06:04:09 pm
I want to waffle at length about me and mindfulness.  It's been making me a far calmer, more peaceful person.

Firstly, just like with yoga, I've had an innate resistance to it because it's such a buzzword or fad.  Nonetheless, like yoga, actually applying it has been wonderful.

I've known mindfulness principles, and used them to some extent, for a long time.  But it's only recently that I've been really, truly, ruling my whole life with them, on a practical genuine level rather than an intellectual level.  I was finally in the right place - I think it comes from yoga - for it all to really deeply click.  I've been really trying to be mindful every minute of every day.  It helps that I'm not working much right now, so I have time to simply practice being mindful - sort of engrain it in my head and change my mind's patterns while it's easiest.

There are so many truths I know - "Life is 10% of what happens to you and 90% of how you react", "comparing yourself with others is silly, as you don't even know their reality, and it doesn't matter anyway"... so many more: all things much easier said than done.

Well, I've been saying them to myself a lot.  Like, every few minutes I'll tell myself some of these phrases and truths.  And the more I tell them to myself and pay attention to them - because yes, I do have some control over where my attention goes - the more I really begin to believe them in practice rather than on a theoretical level.  They get deeper under my skin, and next time I truly need them, they come more to my mind.

The challenge with mindfulness is... the mind you're trying to be mindful of is the same mind you have to use to be mindful.  It's hard to remember to be mindful, because you only remember to be mindful WHEN you're actually being mindful.  You have to have a moment of mindfulness to become mindful again.

But with practice, you really can.  If you focus on making that your day's aim, you can do it a bit more that day, and incrementally it builds up as you sorta rewrite your brain.

Some thoughts I've been making second nature:

--> Thoughts are just stories.  My perception of what an event is or means is, quite simply, not truth.  It *might* reflect the truth of the situation, but it's more likely it doesn't.  So if I think, "so-and-so is trying to attack me" or "I deserve to die" (or milder thoughts), that doesn't make them at all true.

--> I can deal with whatever feelings arise.  I can sit with that pain.  I can challenge/question/rationalise/redirect my thoughts, intellectually fixing my dialogue.  It doesn't mean the feelings go away, but that's not my aim - instead, I just take away the weight and importance of my thoughts and then feel my feelings until I stop feeling them.  It always passes.

--> I avoid judging if something is good or bad.  They aren't innately good or bad - I myself label their goodness or badness.

--> I've also been killing the concepts of "wasted time" and "waiting" in my mind - right now is the right moment and the one in which I can be mindful and meditative and kind.  So small annoyances have much less weight with me; I can mindfully and happily wait in line or traffic or at a station.

--> I matter neither more nor less than anyone else.  I need to be consciously aware of when I'm doing or thinking things because of my ego; it doesn't matter if I'm better or worse than others.

--> All things will work out for good.

--> Consciously breathe.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on November 21, 2017, 02:28:12 pm
This is hard to share.

I feel like there's a widening gap between me and most others, even while I try to find more connection.

I intentionally avoid most media: I dislike the majority of its messages.  Instead, I immerse myself in yogic and buddhist philosophy - I want to intentionally choose what goes into my head and what I focus on, rather than working on autopilot and swallowing whatever I'm fed.

The result is... a very, very different perspective on life to most.  Some of that comes through in my posts; these aren't just things I'm writing, they're how I actually think most of the time.  So when I interact with most people, I'm constantly left feeling off because I just don't see things the same way.  The more I get deep into yoga, the "worse" this will be, and I'm not sure how to negotiate it!

I don't want to be a self-righteous holier-than-thou prude.  But yet I also don't want to lose my ideals and... move down to the level others are at.  This is what I truly feel, even while I struggle with feeling it because it seems so arrogant and I'm-better-than-you.  And yet I don't mean it that way.  I don't think.

So my mental questions are:

1.  How do I maintain my ideals while still interacting and connecting kindly with others who don't share them?
2.  Am I going too far with being different from others?
3.  Am I arrogant?  How can I avoid it?  Dafuq do I do when I truly believe some things are right and therefore believe that it's better to try and follow them than to follow other ideas?  Sometimes I think I'm the worst human out there, other times I think I'm better than most.  I'm so confused.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on November 22, 2017, 10:31:45 am
After nearly five months, I've seen soooo much physical progress (and the mental progress mirrors that).  Consistent practice truly works.

While for the first couple of months I was constantly sore and my original range of motion became *harder* to access, that settled down.  It takes a while to see distinct  progress, but it absolutely comes.  The start is the hardest - it feels like you're getting nowhere - but after a while it suddenly starts clicking into place.  I promise.

Now, folding forward with palms next to my feet on the floor and head to my shins is as easy as walking.  Originally, I couldn't get near putting my palms on the floor, though I could *just* touch my toes.

I'm so much stronger, too - I can now see why downward dog is called a "resting pose" rather than "exhausting shoulder-muscle-killing-pose".  Chaturanga (yoga push up) comes naturally.  I'm seeing progress everywhere and I know that it'll keep going if I keep practicing consistently.  It's exhilarating, seeing such tangible differences and achievements.

Rant: basic-ish poses I still really struggle with
- Backbends.  I've never been confident to push myself in this so I still find a slight backward bend terrifying and exhausting haha.

- Reverse extended side angle pose, image below. SO BLOODY HARD.  I can complete the whole ninja-like hand-to-big-toe sequence far more easily (balance on one leg, lift other leg to eye level, hold 5 breaths, bring out to side, hold 5 breaths, bring back to centre, lean forwards to touch chin to lifted leg, let go of leg and hold it unsupported in the air 5 breaths).

(https://imgur.com/fvM5hg2.png)

I now look like a decently competent (not advanced) yoga practitioner, but still haven't been to a yoga class and still do yoga on bare concrete. :P
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: Bri MT on November 22, 2017, 04:12:42 pm
This is hard to share.

I feel like there's a widening gap between me and most others, even while I try to find more connection.

I intentionally avoid most media: I dislike the majority of its messages.  Instead, I immerse myself in yogic and buddhist philosophy - I want to intentionally choose what goes into my head and what I focus on, rather than working on autopilot and swallowing whatever I'm fed.

The result is... a very, very different perspective on life to most.  Some of that comes through in my posts; these aren't just things I'm writing, they're how I actually think most of the time.  So when I interact with most people, I'm constantly left feeling off because I just don't see things the same way.  The more I get deep into yoga, the "worse" this will be, and I'm not sure how to negotiate it!

I don't want to be a self-righteous holier-than-thou prude.  But yet I also don't want to lose my ideals and... move down to the level others are at.  This is what I truly feel, even while I struggle with feeling it because it seems so arrogant and I'm-better-than-you.  And yet I don't mean it that way.  I don't think.

So my mental questions are:

1.  How do I maintain my ideals while still interacting and connecting kindly with others who don't share them?
2.  Am I going too far with being different from others?
3.  Am I arrogant?  How can I avoid it?  Dafuq do I do when I truly believe some things are right and therefore believe that it's better to try and follow them than to follow other ideas?  Sometimes I think I'm the worst human out there, other times I think I'm better than most.  I'm so confused.

Anytime you have a strongly held set of ideals, there will inevitably those whose actions/beliefs disagree with your own. Only the people involved can decide if the conflict is to significant to have a positive relationship. It may depend on factors like how much their attitude diverges from yours, how uncomfortable you feel about that, and the extent to which you can understand their attitude.
making these kind of decisions doesn't make you arrogant, it is a good thing to have a strong focus on living the best life you can.
If this path takes you away from others, know that there are some it will also lead you to and ask if you would rather feel trapped on theirs or explore your own.

You have been focusing on becoming superior to your previous self, so it's normal to wonder if that makes you superior to others that you initially felt were on the same level and haven't been investing into self development (and to then criticise yourself for this, because "I'm such a terrible person for thinking that"). As you've mentioned it isn't mentally healthy, and I don't think it's particularly valid either. We all have such different factors influencing us, different things we invest into, and so much of our development is hidden so comparisons about the relative ranking of people just doesn't work. Be proud that you're taking a healthy path and making progress and remember that your pride doesn't say anything about others' ability to be proud, it doesn't make you arrogant.

Congratulations on everything you've achieved thus far and on your perseverance



My reply reads as a bit arrogant to me but that wasn't my intention, and more importantly, I hope that it helps you in some way.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on November 24, 2017, 10:42:50 am
I've now been to my first yoga class, which has been very helpful in an unexpected way.  Surprisingly, I was more physically competent than anyone else in the class, and the teacher asked afterwards if I was hypermobile or a yoga teacher.  It was encouraging.

I guess I practice a very challenging style of yoga, and have "spent time" only with book authors/youtubers with 20+ years experience, without seeing other novice students.  So I've had this sense that I need to be physically very capable, while breathing smoothly, while contracting the pelvic floor, while gazing at the right place, and having complete mental concentration and peace.  That's a lot to require in just a few months of practice!  I've constantly felt self-doubt, like I'm not [concentrated, hardworking, distress-tolerant, mentally capable, enduring, you name it] enough to practice yoga.

But these aren't skills I have to bring to yoga - they're skills I'll gradually develop through yoga.

Obviously if I went to a different class, I'd be dwarfed by other students' skills, and it's not about this comparison - I just needed to recognise that I am doing okay and it's alright to not know everything at once.

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Making these kind of decisions doesn't make you arrogant, it is a good thing to have a strong focus on living the best life you can.
If this path takes you away from others, know that there are some it will also lead you to and ask if you would rather feel trapped on theirs or explore your own.

You have been focusing on becoming superior to your previous self, so it's normal to wonder if that makes you superior to others that you initially felt were on the same level and haven't been investing into self development (and to then criticise yourself for this, because "I'm such a terrible person for thinking that"). As you've mentioned it isn't mentally healthy, and I don't think it's particularly valid either. We all have such different factors influencing us, different things we invest into, and so much of our development is hidden so comparisons about the relative ranking of people just doesn't work. Be proud that you're taking a healthy path and making progress and remember that your pride doesn't say anything about others' ability to be proud, it doesn't make you arrogant.

Very encouraging, thank you, miniturtle.  Always need reminders not to compare and to live my own life rather than judging where it should be based on others! <3
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on November 30, 2017, 05:28:20 pm
I'm back. :-X

I've been very anxious in navasana (boat pose - sit on your bum, lean your chest backwards and lift your legs into the air to make a V-shape).  It's traditionally 5 x 25 second holds with a body lift between each rep - very hard on legs and core.  And it never gets easier - you push yourself harder and straighten your legs more and lengthen rep time as you get stronger.

My mind always starts to whirl, worsening as the physical discomfort increases - am I not trying or enduring enough?  Should I be pushing through the discomfort more?  Am I about to collapse and fail?  What happens if, some hypothetical time later in life, I'm under more physical and mental pressure and I'm too weak and give up?!  Am I a bad person because I don't have grit and endurance?!?  Do I deserve death because I'm a bad person?!?!?!

Then I get to the end of it and it's over and I got through all that physical and mental stress just fine and I can breathe and reason out my mental idiocies that I couldn't control under pressure.  I still feel pretty weak and lazy, but I know I'll just keep doing it most days anyway.  Deep breaths.  I'm an okay human.

I think it's very slowly building my anxiety resilience and distress tolerance.  Whew.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on December 01, 2017, 01:07:01 pm
As I predicted, with the weather change came the mood change.  The aggressive sun and relentless heat left me frantic and on edge.  I've practiced yoga forcefully and rigidly and sweatily, almost self-destructively.

After a long, relaxed practice with the cool grey rain (I'm so lucky to have enough time right now for two meandering hours!), I feel a quiet, peaceful, tired, melancholy relaxation.  It's so beautiful.  I breathed my way slowly into poses, rocking and gently moving through them and wandering slowly round the room between, surrendering and not pushing, and spent a lot of time on soothing self-hugging forward bends.  I feel full of love and compassion and peace.

I know most of my life I won't have time for this, but truly, it brings me back to everything that matters and completely resets me. 10/10 would recommend.

My favourite self-soothing and grounding method
My favourite pose to calm myself down if I'm agitated is bound half-lotus forward bend, because I'm locked together firmly and hugging myself and feel safe yet can breathe freely, but I guess it's a physically difficult pose.

An easy restorative calming relaxation pose:

With gentle instrumental music in the background, I sit on the floor, feet flat on the floor with knees up against my chest.  I put a pillow between my chest and thighs and another between my knees and calves, and then hug my arms under my knees and resting on the bottom pillow.  Then I push my feet further away, straightening my knees and getting closer to a forward bend - you can go as far forward as you want depending on your hamstring flexibility.  Then I just relax there, breathing slowly through my nose, rocking gently from side to side, chest leaning on pillow on thighs, hugging myself, relaxing all my muscles, and stay there for a long time.  A blanket or doona on top if it's cold! <3
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on December 03, 2017, 08:38:53 pm
I'm a pretty envious person.  Always comparing, comparing, comparing.  Not jealous of money or material possessions or "success" or cool holidays if I'm going to be jealous, I've got to do it in a morally superior way so I can feel better than y'all ;), but of:
a) their character traits, skills or personality
b) the attention or love they get from others I love.

Typically, I have a hard time admitting this emotion to myself because I'm ashamed of it.  I'm just trying to become aware of it, label it as envy, sit with it, breathe, and bring myself back to simple truths:
- there's enough to go round! it's not a zero-sum situation
- the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence
- why waste time comparing?
- there will always be many better and many worse than me - so what?
- it's okay to not be perfect

I'm also trying to consciously wish success and happiness to those I'm jealous of.  I mentally send them good wishes, hoping that they get more of the love or charisma or work ethic or wit or success that I'm envying.  Sending silent well-wishes to others I respect and love always helps me feel better.  And then I try to find inspiration from them and use them as role-models.

I don't have the answer though.  I guess it's a long day-in day-out process of awareness and gently redirecting my natural patterns.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on December 14, 2017, 09:59:29 pm
I'm a bit upset with the human race in general.  I'm upset that being a human being leaves me weak and selfish and unable to meet seemingly reasonable high standards.  I'm upset that we all have so many good answers and advice but we don't live them, that we consistently choose behaviours that we know will hurt us, that it takes so long for us to learn basic lessons, that we're so egotistical and self-centred and self-manipulative, that we all make mistakes that hurt others a lot (e.g. sexually harassing others), and that we can't seem to get past all this even when we try.

To use the jealousy example above - I know it's a normal human emotion, but I hate feeling it when I should admire and be inspired by others instead, because it harms me and others for no reason.  I can't reasonably beat myself up more or less than I do anyone else, because I don't mess up much more or less than most humans, so...

I suppose I just have to extend lots and lots of compassion to all of us: myself, my friends, strangers, my enemies.  We all have many good points and wonderful motives and it's not our fault that we're human ;)  But how does one balance this with not taking shit from others?  Urgh.  I don't know.

It all returns to the same thing - things are as they are and we don't know the answer, so just gotta to do our best right now.  Just gotta do our best right now.
Title: Re: I wanna journal my yoga-inspired thoughts daily
Post by: heids on January 19, 2018, 10:58:27 pm
One can but do one's best, and trust that it is enough.
Title: Writing out the nonsense in my head.
Post by: heids on February 09, 2018, 04:34:41 pm
I haven't posted in a while.  My head has been too busy and messy: the thoughts run away with themselves, incoherent, like a crowd of people pushing and shoving in a riot without quite knowing what's going on.  I'm changing the title to make it more general so I can feel I can write whatever I want.  I'm pretty confused about everything, to be quite honest.  I'm quite okay, just my head is overflowing!

I'm repeating my last post to myself so often.

Deep breaths.  I need to take myself less seriously.
Title: Re: Writing out the nonsense in my head.
Post by: Bri MT on February 09, 2018, 04:56:19 pm
I haven't posted in a while.  My head has been too busy and messy: the thoughts run away with themselves, incoherent, like a crowd of people pushing and shoving in a riot without quite knowing what's going on.  I'm changing the title to make it more general so I can feel I can write whatever I want.  I'm pretty confused about everything, to be quite honest.  I'm quite okay, just my head is overflowing!

I'm repeating my last post to myself so often.

Deep breaths.  I need to take myself less seriously.

In the overwhelming-ness of anxiety striking remember that you know what it is like to have picked yourself up before and escaped to the other side. You have proven that you are more than capable of getting to a healthier state - despite whatever your thoughts might try and tell you. Have you been able to keep up your yoga practice recently? Maybe try some simple poses and beginners mindset if you're up to it.

Something that has helped me is consciously rephrasing my modal verbs to remove necessity or obligation. Eg. If I think "I need to get better at letting go" I'll then think "I should get better at letting things go.  I want to get better at letting things go." 

We're here for you - if there's any support the AN fam can give you let us know
Title: Re: Writing out the nonsense in my head.
Post by: heids on February 24, 2018, 10:27:30 am
Thanks, miniturtle <3

Been having a rough few weeks I guess.  I simply feel absolutely stuck in this war with the universe and myself.  Everything I do or think or feel triggers a flood of tangled thoughts that loop back on themselves in increasingly metacognitive spirals.

For some reason, I've temporarily lost "the serenity to accept the things I cannot change" and am fighting madly with reality.  Humans are alive and we have to stay that way? BUT I DON'T LIKE THAT.  Impermanence is inevitable?  BUT I HATE THAT.  Humans are the way they are and won't become better or smarter or kinder?  BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE THAT.  Things are unknowable?  WELL FUCK THAT I NEED TO KNOW THEM.  And so on. 

I know the universe will win and I'll give in and accept it all optimistically again, because you can't do anything else.  There isn't a way out of reality.

At this point I don't really know what to do - can only think endlessly of harming myself in more and more creative or severe ways. Have already spent a night in emergency as a result, and can't afford to repeat it for the sake of family and friends.

And it will all get better.  It'll magically untangle just enough for me to do the work to put myself in a better place.  It always happens that way.  Humans don't break, no matter the pressure.
Title: Re: Writing out the nonsense in my head.
Post by: peterpiper on February 24, 2018, 07:44:47 pm
I don't know how helpful this will be to you, but it's the least I can do: Wishing you my all for a speedy recovery heids whether that be a week from now or even a decade <3 Good things, good change don't all happen overnight.
Title: Re: Writing out the nonsense in my head.
Post by: heids on April 14, 2019, 08:13:09 pm
I really want to update this thread occasionally, even though it's been long dead and forgotten and I've been long dead and forgotten on AN.  But I continue to think, endlessly, and I continue to want a place to write it out.

I might give it a shot.  We'll see.  Sorry for the pointless post ::) - I'm giving myself a foothold to post if I want to, y'know?

<3
Title: Re: Writing out the nonsense in my head.
Post by: Bri MT on April 14, 2019, 08:31:06 pm
I really want to update this thread occasionally, even though it's been long dead and forgotten and I've been long dead and forgotten on AN.  But I continue to think, endlessly, and I continue to want a place to write it out.

I might give it a shot.  We'll see.  Sorry for the pointless post ::) - I'm giving myself a foothold to post if I want to, y'know?

<3

We're still here & we still care <3
Title: Re: Writing out the nonsense in my head.
Post by: Joseph41 on April 14, 2019, 09:12:48 pm
Never forgotten on AN, matey.
Title: Re: Writing out the nonsense in my head.
Post by: heids on April 29, 2019, 09:30:18 pm
<3 thank you folks

With a full time job and life, I haven’t been able to do the rigorous regular yoga routine I used to.  So I’ve got physically weaker/less competent, making it hard to be consistent.

It’s one of my deepest issues: that need for perfection.  Performing imperfectly hurts SO ridiculously much that, unless I can be perfect, I tend to avoid trying.  Intellectually, I know that you have to be bad at something lots and lots and lots of times over before you get better at it.  But emotionally… regularly facing up to being shit at something is almost unbearable.  And then I hate myself for feeling these irrational emotions.  It doesn’t make sense that they’re so strong!

So my task for the next month: every day, without fail, I’ll put on a timer and do 10 minutes of yoga.  If I feel like it, I do more; if not I stop and that is FINE.

That means facing up to being weak every day.  Honestly, most of it will probably be breathing through tears and shame, every day.

It doesn’t have to be all or nothing.  I don’t have to either be completely perfect or completely give up.  I can do a little bit, consistently, and leave the rest for later.  Later is an okay thing.